Flat Earth Theory

[ScottA]

So you claim the mountains near Longyearbyen block the view of Sigma Octantis ?
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Lets see :-
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So let's use a location where mountains should not be an issue :-
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Dingle Ireland.
Why can't Dingle Ireland not see Sigma Octantis ?
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Yet populations on the equator can.
Any other locations Scott ? :)

If you are for a global earth, I am not against you. Longyearbyen simply sits with mountains on three sides limiting the view, especially to the south. I get your point. It is good.

Sorry, I didn't know David was defending a Flat Earth.

 

[PeterAndroz]

No, and the words people try to claim do show proof either way, are easily explained as metaphor.

Earth is sphere confirmed by locations that can see stars that other loc's cant.
Eg Peru & Cross Slea Head Ireland
Peru sees Sigma Octantis yet Cross Slea Head Ireland can't.
Odd considering Cross Slea Head has a a clear view of the NA ocean

 

[ScottA]

Earth is sphere confirmed by locations that can see stars that other loc's cant.
Eg Peru & Cross Slea Head Ireland
Peru sees Sigma Octantis yet Cross Slea Head Ireland can't.
Odd considering Cross Slea Head has a a clear view of the NA ocean

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Yes, I get that. That is proof.

Even so, the word "sphere" in the Bible is no more proof of a global earth, than is "corners of the earth" proof of a flat earth.

 

[PeterAndroz]

Yes, I get that. That is proof.

Even so, the word "sphere" in the Bible is no more proof of a global earth, than is "corners of the earth" proof of a flat earth.

Neither do I see how the Bible can be used to explain the shape of the earth, to do that requires a lot of "imagination".

 

[ScottA]

Neither do I see how the Bible can be used to explain the shape of the earth, to do that requires a lot of "imagination".

Yes, I have my own proof--not as elaborate as yours, for sure--but proof nonetheless.

Excerpt from Cheeseburgers With God:

An example of things just unfolding in life as orchestrated by God, if one is paying attention and not just thinking everything is a broken record of “coincidences”, came when I lived temporarily on Lokia Street high up Kaniau Road, between Lahaina and Kaanapali. Remember, I was a small-town, country boy, touched by God, and now halfway around the world on the biggest learning curve of my life. Learning about life. Learning about the world.​

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Every morning heading off to work I would turn the corner on to Kaniau Road, look from high up on the hill out across to the neighboring island of Lanai and see the wrecked ship marooned atop the reef at Shipwreck Beach. But then down at the bottom of the hill at Malo Street and the Honoapiilani Hwy—it would disappear below the ocean. No, it didn’t sink every day, it disappeared below my line of sight. Now, what do you suppose I was witnessing? Do you suppose there were forty foot waves obscuring my view every day? But, no, I would go out and cross that section of ocean every day in a boat. I knew better, and it was mostly flat calm. What then should I have learned? Was God throwing me a curve?​

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Yes—a lesson learned, that is exactly what God was doing! Some curves are good…and apparent.​

 

[Biblica]

That's false. I used to believe the earth was flat as well, but changed my mind after I looked into it more deeply, the earth is most certainly a sphere, like a ball.

If the earth is flat then why can't we see the sun at night when we can see the stars that are much further away?

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It's definitely not a round ball. It is supposed to be an oblate pear shaped spheroid. Spheroids are squat on the top. I am still not getting any satisfactory answers on the things that seem to support a flat earth. Like why you can still see things beyond the supposed six mile limit when everything is supposed to be out of sight on a globe.

 

[PeterAndroz]

It's definitely not a round ball. It is supposed to be an oblate pear shaped spheroid. Spheroids are squat on the top. I am still not getting any satisfactory answers on the things that seem to support a flat earth. Like why you can still see things beyond the supposed six mile limit when everything is supposed to be out of sight on a globe.

""It's definitely not a round ball.""
Earth is not a perfect sphere. It is an oblate spheroid, meaning it bulges slightly at the equator and is flattened at the poles due to its rotation. For the most precise scientific measurements of gravity and sea levels, the planet is mapped as a geoid, which resembles an irregularly shaped, bumpy sphere
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Sell me 1kg of gold at the equator & I'll sell it for a 0.5% profit in Sweden :)
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In terms of mass, 1 kg at the North Pole is identical to 1 kg at the equator. However, in terms of weight (the force of gravity pulling on that mass), 1 kg weighs about 0.5% more at the North Pole than it does at the equator

 

[David Lamb]

It's definitely not a round ball. It is supposed to be an oblate pear shaped spheroid. Spheroids are squat on the top. I am still not getting any satisfactory answers on the things that seem to support a flat earth. Like why you can still see things beyond the supposed six mile limit when everything is supposed to be out of sight on a globe.

How far you can see, apart from depending on the weather conditions, depends on how high you are above sea level. For example, here in the UK, from the top of the white cliffs of Dover, one can easily see France if the weather provides good visibility. From the beach at Dover. one is unlikely to see France at all, or at best, only the tops of high buildings on the French coast.

 

[David in NJ]

I suppose the Flat Earthers would say that it's just a matter of what is programed into the matrix.

But being smaller the Moon appears the size it is by being closer, while being larger the Sun appears the size it is by being further away.

How far away are the sun and moon?

 

[David in NJ]

How far you can see, apart from depending on the weather conditions, depends on how high you are above sea level. For example, here in the UK, from the top of the white cliffs of Dover, one can easily see France if the weather provides good visibility. From the beach at Dover. one is unlikely to see France at all, or at best, only the tops of high buildings on the French coast.

Special tech cameras(infrared) have photographed(straightline) mountains from as far away as 500 miles.

This is ONLY possible on the level surface of the earth which God created.

If we were on a globe, the mountains would be at least a mile below the "NASA generated curve of the earth".

Always believe GOD at His word.

 

[David Lamb]

Special tech cameras(infrared) have photographed(straightline) mountains from as far away as 500 miles.

This is ONLY possible on the level surface of the earth which God created.

If we were on a globe, the mountains would be at least a mile below the "NASA generated curve of the earth".

Always believe GOD at His word.

Three points arise for me from your post. First, if it were possible to see 500 miles away on the earth's surface with specialised equipment, why can't I see France from my living-room window, which looks out over the English Channel on the south coast of England? France is just over a hundred miles away from me, and plenty large enough to be visible at that distance. Second, where does God's word say that the earth is a flat disc? Third, NASA was only set up in the 1950s. Astronomers taught that the earth is a globe hundreds of years before that.

 

[David in NJ]

Three points arise for me from your post. First, if it were possible to see 500 miles away on the earth's surface with specialised equipment, why can't I see France from my living-room window, which looks out over the English Channel on the south coast of England? France is just over a hundred miles away from me, and plenty large enough to be visible at that distance. Second, where does God's word say that the earth is a flat disc? Third, NASA was only set up in the 1950s. Astronomers taught that the earth is a globe hundreds of years before that.

CLARITY and the limited sight distance of our own eyes = Horizon

CLARITY = SAME as in WATER = the more CLEAR the WATER the farther you can see = likewise with AIR/ATMOSPHERE

Human Eyesight Distance Horizontal Plane = 3 to 10 miles

The earth is NOT a flat disk

NASA was developed from the belief system of ancient Babylon

Atsronomers are looking up to the stars for answers.

We FIND those answers(as GOD permits) in His Word = Colossians 1:15-18

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 18And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

 

[ScottA]

How far away are the sun and moon?

I don’t know, but it is obvious that their orbits are different. Illusion? Not by the evidence shown to me by God.

 

[David in NJ]

I don’t know, but it is obvious that their orbits are different. Illusion? Not by the evidence shown to me by God.

According to NASA/globalists:
a.) Sun is 93,000,000 miles from the earth
b.) Moon is 238,855 miles from the earth

You believe you can see 238,855 miles away???

REALLY? = see 93 MILLION MILES away???


WAKE UP precious Saints = you been lied too

 

[ScottA]

According to NASA/globalists:
a.) Sun is 93,000,000 miles from the earth
b.) Moon is 238,855 miles from the earth

You believe you can see 238,855 miles away???

REALLY? = see 93 MILLION MILES away???


WAKE UP precious Saints = you been lied too

I don’t doubt that NASA has lied or is not just claiming what they "think" is true based on the flawed approach of much of science. However, I do doubt they didn’t account for their math being correct.

But why do you gage sight by the terms and limits of this world? Do you not believe that God can manifest by example that vision on earth is limited, while in heaven it is not?

 

[David in NJ]

I don’t doubt that NASA has lied or is not just claiming what they "think" is true based on the flawed approach of much of science.

But why do you gage sight by the terms and limits of this world? Do you not believe that God can manifest by example that vision on earth is limited, while in heaven it is not?

Because GOD desires and commands us, for our BENEFIT, to only believe TRUTH = especially factual truth.

We can only see 3 to 10 miles on horizontal plain.

Definitely farther when looking up.

Definitely not farther then a few thousand miles at best.

THINK Factual Truth = From earth, we can see the surface of the moon without any magnification.

The moon is very close to earth = NASA/globalists do not want you to know or believe this.

NASA/globalists is/are the mind control preparation for the end time deceptions spoken of in 2 Thessalonians 2:5-12

 

[ScottA]

Because GOD desires and commands us, for our BENEFIT, to only believe TRUTH = especially factual truth.

We can only see 3 to 10 miles on horizontal plain.

Definitely farther when looking up.

Definitely not farther then a few thousand miles at best.

THINK Factual Truth = From earth, we can see the surface of the moon without any magnification.

The moon is very close to earth = NASA/globalists do not want you to know or believe this.

NASA/globalists is/are the mind control preparation for the end time deceptions spoken of in 2 Thessalonians 2:5-12

So you do NOT believe God can or would manifest an accurate example showing us the difference in sight between heaven and earth, as it is written?

 

[David Lamb]

CLARITY and the limited sight distance of our own eyes = Horizon

CLARITY = SAME as in WATER = the more CLEAR the WATER the farther you can see = likewise with AIR/ATMOSPHERE

Yet we see the sun, the moon and the stars, which are much further away than France.

Human Eyesight Distance Horizontal Plane = 3 to 10 miles

The earth is NOT a flat disk

NASA was developed from the belief system of ancient Babylon

Atsronomers are looking up to the stars for answers.

We FIND those answers(as GOD permits) in His Word = Colossians 1:15-18

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 18And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

Well, I am sure that, as with other branches of science, there are some astronomers who are Christians.

I think those words of Colossians 1:15-18 are true, and a wonderful confirmation of the deity of Jesus Christ

 

[David in NJ]

So you do NOT believe God can or would manifest an accurate example showing us the difference in sight between heaven and earth, as it is written?

Thank you and Good Afternoon from NJ

Please elaborate on your position with "it is written"

 

[David in NJ]

Yet we see the sun, the moon and the stars, which are much further away than France.

Firstly because of the factual science as was given: horizontal plain viewing distance versus upward.

Secondly, World Record Distance photos have already, FACTUALLY, proved we are not on a globe.

As does WATER from Genesis, that covers the earth and is separated by LAND =
THINK my beautiful Brother in CHRIST
Why is LAND necessary to contain the rivers, lakes and oceans!!!

Never forget Genesis = Our GOD created a Firmament that separates the WATERS from Above us!!!

Thirdly, never place your trust in globalists/satanists/scientists who are controlled by the "god of this world"

Well, I am sure that, as with other branches of science, there are some astronomers who are Christians.

HalleluYAH

I think those words of Colossians 1:15-18 are true, and a wonderful confirmation of the deity of Jesus Christ

HalleluYAH x1,000,000,000 to Infinty