Was Paul able to reach the uttermost in his day and age? (Co-pilot Bible Study Question)

[MatthewG]

No problem.


missionary work as far the bride of Christ in the day and getting them ready for the end when Jesus was coming to gather the bride in my opinion is over with.

What you getting prepared for is living life by the spirit and being part of the heavenly kingdom when you leave this life.

I don’t believe we go through what they went through.


The first century Christian’s that were saved and taken by Christ are really underrated for a lot of people.

I believe they psychically seen him too. Odd belief sure.

Cause they think they need to all what they did.

That’s the confusion.

 

[Brakelite]

I must stress that I certainly wasn't doubting what Paul says. Just not sure that I agree with the sentence in the OP about Paul having reached the boundaries of the Roman Empire. He didn't reach Gaul (now France) or Britain, for example, a nd both were in the Roman Empire by then.

Nor did he go to North Africa.

 

[Brakelite]

No I meant what I said.

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People will go do them.

People have missionary trips on the side of the boardwalk in Florida, getting people to say the name of Jesus but who knows if they truly had a heart change.

But those people will be so happy like oh yay! We got another salvation today! Or 10 praise God!

It’s a really weird thing to me personally…

I understand you older folk probably went on missionary trips, so do Jehovah Witness and so do, who else Mormon religion.


There are people that scam and prey off people too in churches to get money for these events and what not… and they go to trips to other countries and everything.

Are they really going and doing anything ?

That is worth while?


Beats me. People do what people want to do:

I’m not your judge, but I don’t believe I need to go anywhere like some foreign country.

God is not pull on my heart strings to worry about all those people… I gotta deal my own front and back yard here.










Take it how you will, but I am just myself you can disagree or whatever you want.

Paul made his completion through the places he needed. I don’t have to go anywhere and for anyone to suggest;

“If you don’t you aren’t saved to begin with type stuff”

Is just childish. Or people saying oh Matthew you should have a different view or whatever. I don’t think anyone can tell anyone what to do:

I’m just saying Paul made it to the uttermost. I don’t have too.

Does that make the thousands of missionaries who travelled throughout the world irrelevant because you say so? What about the Christian Church that began in Ethiopia in Paul's time from Philip's preaching to the Ethiopian dignatory in Acts? What about the missionaries who established the church in China, India (Thomas), Afghanistan, Persia, Vietnam and the Philippians within just a few hundred years of Paul's death? Not to mention, but I will, the Celtic church in Britain that was established by Galatians (who were Celtic) that Paul converted ? And then later the Celtic missionaries who ventured into Catholic Europe to preach the truth in opposition to the numerous heresies being foisted upon a superstitious people? Are they all irrelevant because only Paul was called to be a missionary to the Gentiles on your say so?

 

[Rockerduck]

For the record, the Apostle Paul's letters certainly reached to the ends of the known earth and more later. The only reason that it isn't right now is the Muslim countries who reject the bible.

 

[JimKnox]

If people just be honest it works out a lot better.

I’m not gonna hate you cause you don’t trust what Paul said.

I’m just making a notion for people to think for themselves.

Gaslighting

 

[JimKnox]

Paul, himself, said he FINISHED his course which makes this entire thread moot.

 

[JimKnox]

For the record, the Apostle Paul's letters certainly reached to the ends of the known earth and more later. The only reason that it isn't right now is the Muslim countries who reject the bible.

Actually, the Gospel of Christ has been to every nation on earth already. In fact, it has penetrated every Mohammedan nation as well.

 

[Rockerduck]

Actually, the Gospel of Christ has been to every nation on earth already. In fact, it has penetrated every Mohammedan nation as well.

yes it was, and I said that Paul's letters reached the ends of the earth, but I said not right "now" in Muslim nations because they reject it.

 

[JimKnox]

yes it was, and I said that Paul's letters reached the ends of the earth, but I said not right "now" in Muslim nations because they reject it.

We seem to be talking past each other.
Every Muslim nation on earth has an underground Christian church and copies of the Scriptures in spite of the "official" position of said nations' government. It doesn't matter if "they reject it", the reality remains that God has a body of believers AND Scriptures in every Muslim nation today.

'ave a good day.

 

[David Lamb]

We seem to be talking past each other.
Every Muslim nation on earth has an underground Christian church and copies of the Scriptures in spite of the "official" position of said nations' government. It doesn't matter if "they reject it", the reality remains that God has a body of believers AND Scriptures in every Muslim nation today.

'ave a good day.

Yes, praise God! I don't have the details on this, but I heard at our church prayer meeting recently that there are large numbers of people being converted to Jesus Christ in Iran.

 

[ScottA]

I must stress that I certainly wasn't doubting what Paul says. Just not sure that I agree with the sentence in the OP about Paul having reached the boundaries of the Roman Empire. He didn't reach Gaul (now France) or Britain, for example, a nd both were in the Roman Empire by then.

David,

Paul didn't have to go himself, but only to Rome who was in authority over their own territory.

But you make a good point, one of distinction regarding authority.

@MatthewG

 

[ScottA]

I'm not aware of anything in Scripture that says "the Roman world" or something meaning that. That's a problem with AI, it mixes in error, and that error gets into people's thinking, and it's wrong.

Much love!

Yes, good point. Meaning that AI is just another form of "the teachings of men" (it just gathers and presents the information that men have published, even error or misunderstanding). It is important to realize that AI has both, both the scriptures as written, but also what is published that most people believe...which is where the error comes in...not unlike without AI, only faster .

 

[David Lamb]

David,

Paul didn't have to go himself, but only to Rome who was in authority over their own territory.

But you make a good point, one of distinction regarding authority.

@MatthewG

I'd almost forgotten that post - I'd written it back in May! Thanks anyway.

 

[JimKnox]

FYI: re AI.
It is prone to mistakes. Do not trust it.
Secondly, you CAN train it to minimize those mistakes.
Whenever I use it, I have directed it to dismiss everything that is not based upon the 1769 Edition of the AV1611.
Starting there, you are virtually assured of sound information.
It took awhile. Lots of history to wade through but I got there.