After your born again do you think you will never sin again?

[Jack]

Then once again let me ask...what keeps you saved?

Already answered. OSAS preacher?

 

[stevesonthebay]

the desire is the sudden change . as in a one hundred and eighty degree change .
Though the maturing and growing in the faith does increase over time .
Now i KNOW and KNOW with zero doubt that DAY GOD reached out to me
He had put HIS CHANGE in this sheeps heart . Any guesses on what occurred .
Desires to do what pleases God was put upon my heart . And sin does not please him .
I was actually T URNED from sin unto GOD and HOLINESS . HE DID that . HE put that change in my heart .
And one more t hing . Ev erything i loved reading in that bible i believed it . I did not understand some things
But OH I BELEIVED what was written . THERE was ZERO desire to try and to twist what was written at all .
Just a hunger for truth and such a love for them h oly wo rds of GOD . DO be encouraged .
But you wanna know what the number one problem in christainity is ........
A vast majority do not BELIEVE all things written and had rather have it twisted to fit what they DO desire .
And any guesses on what it is they do desire . WELL when the words of GOD are twisted
you can bet its THEIR SIN . oh you can SURELY bet it is their sin they love and desire and will find
any way known to man to be able to feel accepted in IT , approved IN IT , justified in it . NOT gonna bode
well for those at all .

I agree to a point. I think on That day we do believe and experience Gods presense in our hearts. But its not always as simple as we then believe all that we read.

We may for various reasons stumble under lifes trials and tribulations. This is usually the times we have doubts and forget all those experiences. because the experience of the trials and pressures the world puts on us can take over. We may drift a little and begin to doubt as a result.

But the experience of God never completely goes away. We wrestle and question and may even at times entertain the idea that maybe God is not what we thought and the world was right. This is all part of strengthening our faith.

Because when we are saved the light of God even if it becomes a flicker never completely goes out. There is still this voice calling despite all that. Then we think and our questions are never fully resolved by the world and we come full circle back to God an even stronger person.

thats when I think we become more confident in what Gods words say. We experience the words, we experience the bad things that come with entertaining such ideas. We see more clearly how the world is not the answer despite all the well sounding rationalisation.

Thats when we gain a deeper understanding of Gods words when we live them out and see the truth in reality. Which then gives us assurance that whatever else God is saying even if we do not understand is also truth and does not need to be questioned.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I never said any such thing! ANOTHER LIE! It's a good thing you can't sin!

Now your denying what you actually believe.

I can;t live in sin. But sadly. I am not perfect. I am still a work in progress..

You're chasing your tail.

Nope.. I was saved. I am. a completed action

Your chasing your tail hoping you may be saved. by your works

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Already answered. OSAS preacher?

notice. he can not answer. he just mocks..

 

[David Lamb]

???

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to be puzzled by that post!

 

[amigo de christo]

Now your denying what you actually believe.

I can;t live in sin. But sadly. I am not perfect. I am still a work in progress..

Nope.. I was saved. I am. a completed action

Your chasing your tail hoping you may be saved. by your works

speaking of chasing , many are now chasing something that has given them hope
and that they beleive to be the Love of GOD .
And it will not and it cannot save them . by means of its inclusive love its ecumeincal
interfaith interreligious dialogue , IT HAS MADE VOID the dire necessity to have to BELIEVE on THE ONLY ONE
who can save . We sure do not want to be chasing the tail end of a harlots love that has made
the path to god very broad . And yes that was no accident that i w rote god and not GOD .
Cause IT AINT THE LOVE OF GOD at all .

 

[amigo de christo]

I agree to a point. I think on That day we do believe and experience Gods presense in our hearts. But its not always as simple as we then believe all that we read.

We may for various reasons stumble under lifes trials and tribulations. This is usually the times we have doubts and forget all those experiences. because the experience of the trials and pressures the world puts on us can take over. We may drift a little and begin to doubt as a result.

But the experience of God never completely goes away. We wrestle and question and may even at times entertain the idea that maybe God is not what we thought and the world was right. This is all part of strengthening our faith.

Because when we are saved the light of God even if it becomes a flicker never completely goes out. There is still this voice calling despite all that. Then we think and our questions are never fully resolved by the world and we come full circle back to God an even stronger person.

thats when I think we become more confident in what Gods words say. We experience the words, we experience the bad things that come with entertaining such ideas. We see more clearly how the world is not the answer despite all the well sounding rationalisation.

Thats when we gain a deeper understanding of Gods words when we live them out and see the truth in reality. Which then gives us assurance that whatever else God is saying even if we do not understand is also truth and does not need to be questioned.

Here is an example of what i meant by believing .
In John it was well written that the word was with GOD and the Word was God . I beleived that when i read it .
I also believed where JESUS said the Father is greater than I . though way back i did not understand that .
In time the understanding would come .
Now notice when some folks read it they twist it to fit what mens doctrines said . And it will make void what is written .
That was what i was talking about . The sheep can whiff a lie when said lie is being presented to them .
THOUGH they might not understand . For JESUS has the sheep .
Things in revelation i still do n ot fully understand but do believe them .
And yes when folks come along and try and teach things about even the things i do
not fully understand , STILL by grace i can whiff a lie . For if you watch closely
they will always twist something in order to fit it to what their own doctrine means for it to say .
Hope that helps my friend .

 

[Jack]

Now your denying what you actually believe.

Another LIE!

I can;t live in sin. But sadly. I am not perfect. I am still a work in progress..

Nope.. I was saved. I am. a completed action

Your chasing your tail hoping you may be saved. by your works

And another LIE!

 

[Jack]

notice. he can not answer. he just mocks..

And another LIE. I already answered CLEARLY! Have you read what Jesus said about ALL LIARS?

I forgive you for your many lies about me. I hope God will.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Another LIE!

so you do not believe works are required to keep you saved?

And another LIE!

Prove it.. By proving you do not believe salvation can be lost. and you do not have to work to be saved.

here is your proving ground, it is all yours.

Prove you do not believe these things

or prove you are the one lying not me

 

[Eternally Grateful]

And another LIE. I already answered CLEARLY! Have you read what Jesus said about ALL LIARS?

I have not seen your answer.. Probably many others have not either, and I am not going to go back and attempt to look for it. when you can plainly just say what you believe again..

so just answer the guy and stop trying to pass the blame to everyone else.

 

[Lambano]

 

[Jack]

so you do not believe works are required to keep you saved?

Already quoted Scripture several times.

Prove it.. By proving you do not believe salvation can be lost. and you do not have to work to be saved.

here is your proving ground, it is all yours.

Prove you do not believe these things

or prove you are the one lying not me

No Scripture? Of course not!

 

[Jack]

I have not seen your answer..

Another lie?

Probably many others have not either, and I am not going to go back and attempt to look for it. when you can plainly just say what you believe again..

so just answer the guy and stop trying to pass the blame to everyone else.

I pointed out your lies. You better read them soon.

Rev 21 All liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Already quoted Scripture several times.

No Scripture? Of course not!

so again.. You had the oportunity to prove me wrong. and failed..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Another lie?

So your calling me a liar saying I have seen your answer to him. when I have not.

dude.. you are losing it

I pointed out your lies. You better read them soon.

Rev 21 All liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire

Prove the lies.. Pointing something out is just an accusation.

An accusation my be proven.

I will give you one more change to prove I am a liar. and tell us what we must do to remain saved.

if you fail again. The iggy button is a good friend.

 

[Jack]

so again.. You had the oportunity to prove me wrong. and failed..

Your lies are all the proof needed.

 

[Jack]

So your calling me a liar saying I have seen your answer to him. when I have not.

dude.. you are losing it

Prove the lies.. Pointing something out is just an accusation.

That's your problem. I pointed them out for you to see.

An accusation my be proven.

See above!

I will give you one more change to prove I am a liar. and tell us what we must do to remain saved.

if you fail again. The iggy button is a good friend.

You already proved it. I cited your lies about me. They are there for all to read!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That's your problem. I pointed them out for you to see.

See above!

You already proved it. I cited your lies about me. They are there for all to read!

I am done.. I will no longer feed a troll


Good luck. I will pray for you

 

[Jack]

I am done.. I will no longer feed a troll

Good luck. I will pray for you

When you get time read my posts that list your lies.