The good man that turned bad out of necessity

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Matthias

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Does God tempt people?

You’ve read the Bible. You know that it plainly answers your question.

I was just thinking about King Agrippa. Care to guess why?

Is there a particular translation of the Bible that you prefer to read?
 

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No, I don't think so.
What's it about?

It’s about the US Navy in the Pacific during World War II.


If you had seen it you would have understood when I linked King Agrippa with Operation Skyhook, in reverse.

”Agrippa said to Paul, ‘Are you so quickly persuading me to become a Christian?’”

(Acts 26:28, NRSV)

You’re doing the work of the devil whom you don’t believe exists.

”Are you so quickly persuading me to become an atheist?”

I don’t think you’re here to persuade anyone to become an atheist. I think the devil is.


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All of my relatives who served in the US military in WWII, with one exception, served in the Navy.

(Go Navy! Beat Army!)

The one who didn’t serve in the Navy served in the Marines.

I don’t know what he saw but I know what he did. (He tried to kill Japanese POW’s by giving them gasoline to drink.)

To his dying day, he hated the Japanese. I believe that if he had seen one, he would have killed him or her on sight.
 

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“Nagai’s eyes moistened at the sad thought of what war does to families.”

(Paul Glynn, A Song for Nagasaki, p. 136)

I haven’t come to the part of his story yet when Takashi Nagai, a Catholic doctor who served in the Japanese army (two tours of duty in China), has the atomic bomb dropped on he and his family.

Uncle Ernie has been dead for over 50 years. If he were alive today and knew what I was reading, I have little doubt that he would force me to drink gasoline, just as he forced the POW’s he was guarding on that Pacific island 80 years ago to drink.

Who’s eyes besides mine are moistening over Christians killing Christians and non-Christians? (Uncle Ernie‘s wouldn’t be. You can bet the farm on that.)
 

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Yeah I think we disagree on this one.

The genealogies are problematic, and not only for the fact they don't agree with each other. They also disagree with doctrine throughout the rest of the New Testament.
They're different because one is through Mary and the other is through Joseph
 

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They're different because one is through Mary and the other is through Joseph
This is a common error.

I leave it to you to study the subject further, if you wish, though I think the true answer is perhaps challenging to arrive at.
 

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It’s about the US Navy in the Pacific during World War II.


If you had seen it you would have understood when I linked King Agrippa with Operation Skyhook, in reverse.

”Agrippa said to Paul, ‘Are you so quickly persuading me to become a Christian?’”

(Acts 26:28, NRSV)

You’re doing the work of the devil whom you don’t believe exists.

”Are you so quickly persuading me to become an atheist?”

I don’t think you’re here to persuade anyone to become an atheist. I think the devil is.


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All of my relatives who served in the US military in WWII, with one exception, served in the Navy.

(Go Navy! Beat Army!)

The one who didn’t serve in the Navy served in the Marines.

I don’t know what he saw but I know what he did. (He tried to kill Japanese POW’s by giving them gasoline to drink.)

To his dying day, he hated the Japanese. I believe that if he had seen one, he would have killed him or her on sight.
My dad served on HMS Birmingham during the war mostly escorting troops. I have a great photo of him on deck with his shipmates.

I'm just offering a different view. I'm not here to persuade anyone about anything. Doesn't bother me what anybody believes as long as their beliefs don't harm others.
 

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This is a common error.

I leave it to you to study the subject further, if you wish, though I think the true answer is perhaps challenging to arrive at.
I recommend the book "Learn the Bible in 24 hours " by Chuck Missler He explains the reasons for there being two
 

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My dad served on HMS Birmingham during the war mostly escorting troops. I have a great photo of him on deck with his shipmates.

Did you ever have any desire to serve your country in the Navy? (I had a strong desire to serve my country in the Navy when I was a teenager. I wouldn’t have thought twice about killing you if our countries were at war and our ships met at sea. I would have done it in a heartbeat.)
 

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Is that why you’re here?
I'm here to learn about Christianity and hopefully make some friends along the way.

There's different reasons why people's faith weakens, it's up to them to come to their own conclusions....
You persuade people to follow Jesus. I don't.
 

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I'm here to learn about Christianity …

You‘re an ex-Christian. Why do you want to learn about Christianity?

I doubt that you know the primary reason why I’m here. (It’s not to learn about Christianity.)

… and hopefully make some friends along the way.

There's different reasons why people's faith weakens, it's up to them to come to their own conclusions....
You persuade people to follow Jesus. I don't.
 

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Did you ever have any desire to serve your country in the Navy? (I had a strong desire to serve my country in the Navy when I was a teenager. I wouldn’t have thought twice about killing you if our countries were at war and our ships met at sea. I would have done it in a heartbeat.)
I never had the desire to serve my country in that way... I don't really like the set up in the UK.... I'm anti-monarchy for starters and I hate the class system.
 
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Matthias

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I should have said different varieties of Christianity

Thank you for clarifying. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it - in fact I would encourage it - but why do you want to learn about different varieties of Christianity?
 

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I recommend the book "Learn the Bible in 24 hours " by Chuck Missler He explains the reasons for there being two
If he's saying one of the genealogies is Mary's, then Chuck is wrong. This is easy to prove for yourself just by reading the text.

I can explain the difference, but I haven't so far because (a) that isn't what this topic is about, and (b) it doesn't seem that you're open to any answer other than the one you've already been given, and (c) it isn't very important theologically.