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PeterAndroz

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Where does this HANG YOUR HEAD IN SHAME ignorance come from ?
You ask a "Christian" what are the verses that teach the saving Gospel for NOW and they babble some nonsense because they just don't know.
READ YOUR BIBLE, it's there in black & white
Gal 1:11-12 Christ taught it to Paul
1 Cor 15:1-4 is it
Eph 1:13 is the result
 

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and what happens when you hear, believe & trust the Gospel that Christ taught to Paul ?
Your status >> SAVED & HS sealed
Eph 1:13
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
and that gospel is taught where & by Whom & to who ?
Gal 1:11-12
1 Cor 15:1-4
 

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Christians believe that as a matter fact because the Bible says so.

However, trying to explain to an unbeliever who asks how or why Jesus' death & resurrection saves us, is more challenging.
""Christians believe that as a matter fact because the Bible says so."""
You would think so, yet when I asked a Christian here he couldn't quote or didn't know the verses and instead rambled on about something else.
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""However, trying to explain to an unbeliever who asks how or why Jesus' death & resurrection saves us, is more challenging.""
If you like a challenge, come to a forum that's flooded with unbelievers
 
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""However, trying to explain to an unbeliever who asks how or why Jesus' death & resurrection saves us, is more challenging.""
If you like a challenge, come to a forum that's flooded with unbelievers

I have tried that but I've found that soon they are blaspheming the Gospel so I back off.
I often find it difficult balancing being prepared to give an answer for what we believe and not casting pearls before swine.
Any advice?
 

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I have tried that but I've found that soon they are blaspheming the Gospel so I back off.
I often find it difficult balancing being prepared to give an answer for what we believe and not casting pearls before swine.
Any advice?
Ask them what they are hoping for after they close their eyes for the last time.
Most reply with nonsense or change subject.
Some though do believe in an ongoing self-aware existence & they seem to be the ones worth persisting with.
What appears to put many unbelievers off of Christianity is their exposure to 'Christians' who emit a foul holier than though odor and flip me we have a few here,
 

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Where does this HANG YOUR HEAD IN SHAME ignorance come from ?
You ask a "Christian" what are the verses that teach the saving Gospel for NOW and they babble some nonsense because they just don't know.
READ YOUR BIBLE, it's there in black & white
Gal 1:11-12 Christ taught it to Paul
1 Cor 15:1-4 is it
Eph 1:13 is the result
Good Day To You All, I remember in Matthew 11:25-30 KJV "The Invitation To Come To Jesus" especially verses 28 and 29. But everybody have not, this is His work, we are only to do what He says, and a person can not force anything upon them.

Because He Has Already Set The Example For Us To Follow.

Love, Walter
 

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Good Day To You All, I remember in Matthew 11:25-30 KJV "The Invitation To Come To Jesus" especially verses 28 and 29. But everybody have not, this is His work, we are only to do what He says, and a person can not force anything upon them.

Because He Has Already Set The Example For Us To Follow.

Love, Walter
Why did Christ choose Paul since Christ already had the 12 to spread His teachings ?
Acts 9:15 Christ sent Paul to be Rom 11:13 Apostle & Rom 15:16 Minister to the Gentiles
Gal 1:11-12 Christ taught Paul the Gospel
Gal 2:2 - Paul had to explain that gospel to the 12 - If they already knew it then why send Paul to tell them what they already knew ?
Gal 2:7-9 The 12 & Paul agreed who they were each to teach
1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 is the Gospel that Paul taught to his audience
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What verses are the Gospel that the 12 taught to their audience ?
 

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Why did Christ choose Paul since Christ already had the 12 to spread His teachings ?
Acts 9:15 Christ sent Paul to be Rom 11:13 Apostle & Rom 15:16 Minister to the Gentiles
Gal 1:11-12 Christ taught Paul the Gospel
Gal 2:2 - Paul had to explain that gospel to the 12 - If they already knew it then why send Paul to tell them what they already knew ?
Gal 2:7-9 The 12 & Paul agreed who they were each to teach
1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 is the Gospel that Paul taught to his audience
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What verses are the Gospel that the 12 taught to their audience ?
Hi, Brother Peter, what makes you ask? Do you know the answer?
 

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Hi, Brother Peter, what makes you ask? Do you know the answer?
Acts 2 :-
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
44And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Yet sometimes had to lay hands to receive the HS
Acts 8 :-

15Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
16(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
17Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
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What does Paul teach is required to be saved & HS sealed in :-
1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 ?
 

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Acts 2 :-
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
44And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Yet sometimes had to lay hands to receive the HS
Acts 8 :-

15Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
16(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
17Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
.....

What does Paul teach is required to be saved & HS sealed in :-
1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 ?
And why all these questions? Didn't Jesus teach everything?
 

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Ephesians 2

Alive with Christ

1And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

One in Christ

11Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

A Temple in the Lord

19Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Love, Walter and Debbie
Yes, Jesus taught everything.
eg Acts 2:44-45 is the result of the teachings of Jesus through the 12
Jesus taught that ALL who believed sold everything & were together
Why don't ALL who believe today sell everything & be together ?
That is up to them.
 

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Why don't ALL who believe today sell everything & be together ?
Because THIS didn't/ISN'T happening:
Acts 2:
40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

So that THIS may come to pass:

Isaiah 28:
15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
19 From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.
20 For the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it: and the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it.
 

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and today, what do you believe are the verses that specifically teach how we are saved & HS sealed ?
1 Peter 2:
4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
 

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1 Peter 2:
4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
In Gal 2:7-9 ALL the Apostles agree which believers they are to go to
According to Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16, Gal 2:7-9 - who is your Christ chosen Apostle & Minister ?