SHOULD CHRISTIANS BE AGAINST ABORTION

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Should abortion be illegal?

  • 1. YES

    Votes: 6 85.7%
  • 2. NO

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 3. Only if a doctor says it threatens the mother's life.

    Votes: 1 14.3%

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Grailhunter

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When Christians talk about “the heart” in relation to abortion — or any other immoral act — we’re talking about the interior reality that God judges — the intentions, fears, pressures, wounds, and moral responsibility that shape the act. Abortion is objectively evil, but the interior involvement can include desperation, coercion, confusion, or even a distorted sense of compassion.

Christian moral theology never treats the act alone as the whole story. God judges both the act and the heart, and that means Christians have to consider the mother’s circumstances, the pressures she faces, the moral formation she received, and the degree of freedom or fear involved. The heart matters because charity, responsibility, and the willingness to protect life are interior realities before they ever become external actions.

And this is exactly why Christians cannot judge the way humans often do — by the act alone. If God judged us solely on the worst thing we ever did, without considering the heart, the wounds, the intent, or the circumstances, every one of us would be condemned.

We can be sure that Christ's judgment will be just taking all things into consideration.
But that does not mean we should not make the physical act illegal.
 

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I am opposed to abortion but this case challenges my position.


The Christian moral theology against aborting a child conceived through rape—even the rape of a minor—rests on the principle that the direct killing of an innocent human being is intrinsically evil and cannot be justified by any circumstance, however tragic. The child conceived is morally distinct from the rapist and bears no responsibility for the crime; his or her dignity comes from God, not from the circumstances of conception. Because Christian moral theology forbids doing evil so that good may come of it, one cannot answer the grave injustice of rape with the deliberate destruction of an innocent life. Abortion in this context punishes the only party who did not commit any wrongdoing, treating the child as an extension of the aggressor rather than as a new human person willed by God. Authentic compassion must therefore embrace both victims—the girl who has suffered violence and the child who now exists—offering every form of moral, medical, psychological, and social support to the mother while refusing to solve one injustice by committing another. For these reasons, Christian theology holds that abortion cannot be chosen even in cases of rape, because the evil of the assault cannot be remedied by the intentional killing of the innocent.
 

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We can be sure that Christ's judgment will be just taking all things into consideration.
But that does not mean we should not make the physical act illegal.

I agree that civil law can and should forbid the act. But Christian moral theology still requires us to understand why people commit the act, because God judges both the act and the heart. Making abortion illegal addresses the external reality, but it doesn’t replace the interior discernment Christians are responsible for — charity, responsibility, and the willingness to protect life. Civil law can forbid the act; only Christian moral reasoning can address the heart.
 

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Christian moral theology forbids doing evil so that good may come of it,

Whose Christian morality?
All churches I know support the use of lethal force to bring down a shooter killing children in school with a machine gun.
 

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Whose Christian morality?
All churches I know support the use of lethal force to bring down a shooter killing children in school with a machine gun.

The principle I’m referring to is the one used in Christian moral theology: the moral object of an act determines whether it is intrinsically evil. Abortion is the direct killing of an innocent, which is always forbidden. But stopping an unjust aggressor has a different moral object — the intention is to stop the attack, not to kill.

That’s why the Church applies the principle of double effect in cases of self‑defense or defense of others. The death of the aggressor is a foreseen but unintended consequence, not the chosen moral object.

So when Christian morality says we cannot “do evil so that good may come,” it’s referring to acts whose moral object is evil in itself, like the direct killing of the innocent. Defense of others has a different moral structure.
 
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markalan

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The principle I’m referring to is the one used in Christian moral theology: the moral object of an act determines whether it is intrinsically evil. Abortion is the direct killing of an innocent, which is always forbidden. But stopping an unjust aggressor has a different moral object — the intention is to stop the attack, not to kill.

That’s why the Church applies the principle of double effect in cases of self‑defense or defense of others. The death of the aggressor is a foreseen but unintended consequence, not the chosen moral object.

So when Christian morality says we cannot “do evil so that good may come,” it’s referring to acts whose moral object is evil in itself, like the direct killing of the innocent. Defense of others has a different moral structure.

You make some good points but I still have to ask - whose Christian moral theology?
The Catholic Church does not approve of contraception yet some other churches do.
 

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You make some good points but I still have to ask - whose Christian moral theology?
The Catholic Church does not approve of contraception yet some other churches do.

Christian moral theology ultimately comes from God, because it’s grounded in revelation and natural law. When I refer to “Christian moral theology,” I mean that shared framework: the way Christians have understood moral object, intention, and acts that are intrinsically evil across the historic tradition.

Different churches may disagree on applications like contraception, but the underlying moral principles — that we cannot “do evil so that good may come,” and that the direct killing of the innocent is always wrong — come from that broader Christian moral tradition rooted in God’s revelation.
 

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Christian moral theology ultimately comes from God, because it’s grounded in revelation and natural law. When I refer to “Christian moral theology,” I mean that shared framework: the way Christians have understood moral object, intention, and acts that are intrinsically evil across the historic tradition.

Different churches may disagree on applications like contraception, but the underlying moral principles — that we cannot “do evil so that good may come,” and that the direct killing of the innocent is always wrong — come from that broader Christian moral tradition rooted in God’s revelation.

In another thread we are discussing whether the atomic bombs dropped on Japan killing innocent people was justified ... you will find Christians on both sides of that debate.
 

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In another thread we are discussing whether the atomic bombs dropped on Japan killing innocent people was justified ... you will find Christians on both sides of that debate.

Questions about the atomic bomb involve how the principles of Christian moral theology apply to a complex historical event — not a disagreement about the principles themselves. The core moral truths remain the same: the direct killing of the innocent is intrinsically evil, and we cannot “do evil so that good may come.”

Christians may debate whether a particular wartime action falls under direct killing or under the principle of double effect, but that’s a debate about application, not about the underlying moral framework. The framework itself — rooted in God’s revelation and natural law — is shared across the Christian tradition.
 

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Questions about the atomic bomb involve how the principles of Christian moral theology apply to a complex historical event — not a disagreement about the principles themselves. The core moral truths remain the same: the direct killing of the innocent is intrinsically evil, and we cannot “do evil so that good may come.”

Christians may debate whether a particular wartime action falls under direct killing or under the principle of double effect, but that’s a debate about application, not about the underlying moral framework. The framework itself — rooted in God’s revelation and natural law — is shared across the Christian tradition.

The only way any system of "moral theology" can be evaluated is by how it relates to real life situations.
The abortion of an embryo carried by a 10 year old girl who had been raped, challenges moral absolutes.
 

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The only way any system of "moral theology" can be evaluated is by how it relates to real life situations.
The abortion of an embryo carried by a 10 year old girl who had been raped, challenges moral absolutes.

Extreme cases don’t overturn God’s Law; they show why Christian moral theology distinguishes between the moral object of the act and the culpability of the person involved. The direct killing of the innocent is intrinsically evil, but the culpability of a traumatized child is shaped by fear, coercion, pressure, and diminished freedom.

The fact that real situations can be tragic or horrifying doesn’t erase the absolute; it shows why Christian moral theology insists that God judges the heart — the wounds, intentions, and circumstances that shape a person’s responsibility. A raped 10‑year‑old doesn’t challenge the absolute moral norm; she shows why the distinction between moral object and culpability is essential.
 

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Extreme cases don’t overturn moral absolutes; they show why Christian moral theology distinguishes between the act and the interior reality of the person involved. The direct killing of the innocent is intrinsically evil, but the culpability of a traumatized child is shaped by fear, coercion, pressure, and diminished freedom.

What about the culpability of the doctor who performed the abortion and the parents who approved it?
Every situation must be assessed on all the factors involved, not an external rigid template.
This is what Joseph Fletcher (an Anglican theologian) called "situation ethics".
He believed in moral principles, but not moral absolutes.

Do you think Lot behaved rightly or wrongly?
I have two daughters who have not known any man.
Let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please.
Only do nothing to these men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof.
 
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