Flat Earth Theory

[doctrox]

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Job 22:14 Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit of heaven.

circuit = ḥûḡ = circle, circuit, compass

A compass measures in two dimensions - not three. "compass" is a planar concept - not a spherical concept.


- source: BLB

The psalmist wrote:

NKJV Psa 102:6 I am like a pelican of the wilderness; I am like an owl of the desert.

Did he mean that a pelican is the wilderness, or an owl is the desert? Of course not. So why do you take the words "circle of the earth" to mean "the earth is a circle"?

Your comment is a non sequitur. Here's why:

Re: your cited verse (Psa. 102:6), "like" does not mean "is"; "like" means similar to. It is a comparison.

Whereas,
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: - Isa. 40:22

"It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth" is a declarative statement; there is no "like"; there is no comparison being made. Thus, your "pelican/owl" verse and comment do not apply. IOW, your conclusion does not match the given premises.
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[David Lamb]

GREAT

Job 22:14 = It is GOD who walks the circuit of Heaven = not the earth!!!

If you change Job 22:14 to the 'circuit of the earth" = you sin and create deception!

God looks down upon a circle = not a sphere!!!

If you change God's words of Isaiah 40:22 to 'sphere', you sin and speak not the Truth.

KEEP this Truth in your heart & mind = 1 John 5:19
We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.

Pray that you remain in the former and not the latter = because there are only two options given by God.

SHALOM in the Truth = Thy Word is Truth

Sorry, you have misunderstood my post. If that was my fault, through careless wording, I apologise. I didn't mean that the Job verse mentioned the circuit of the earth. What I said (at least, what I meant to say) was that the same Hebrew word that is translated "circle" in Isaiah 40:22 is translated "circuit" in Job 22:14.

Also, I never claimed that Isaiah 40:22 teaches that the earth is a sphere. I would say that there is no passage of Scripture that tells us the shape of the earth.

 

[David Lamb]

12“Is not God in the height of heaven?
And see the highest stars, how lofty they are!
13And you say, ‘What does God know?
Can He judge through the deep darkness?
14Thick clouds cover Him, so that He cannot see,
And He walks above the circle/vault of heaven.’

English Standard Version
Thick clouds veil him, so that he does not see, and he walks on the vault of heaven.’

Berean Standard Bible
Thick clouds veil Him so He does not see us as He traverses the vault of heaven.’

Berean Literal Bible
Clouds are a covering for Him, so that He does not see, and the vault of the heavens He walks about.’

@David Lamb this passage is not about the earth but the heavens ABOVE the earth.

SEE here - Proverbs 8:27 = same word circle used as in Isaiah 40:22
When He prepared the heavens, I was there,
When He drew a circle on the face of the deep, = "face" Hebrew Strong's 6440
When He established the clouds above,
When He strengthened the fountains of the deep,

the face
פְּנֵ֥י (pə·nê)
Noun - common plural construct
Strong's Hebrew 6440: 1) face 1a) face, faces 1b) presence, person 1c) face (of seraphim or cherubim) 1d) face (of animals) 1e) face, surface (of ground)

God drew a circle on the surface of earth

I know the Job verse is not about the earth. I just meant that the same Hebrew word that is translated "circle" in Isaiah 40:22 is translated "circuit" in Job.

 

[sondring7]

Sorry, you have misunderstood my post. If that was my fault, through careless wording, I apologise. I didn't mean that the Job verse mentioned the circuit of the earth. What I said (at least, what I meant to say) was that the same Hebrew word that is translated "circle" in Isaiah 40:22 is translated "circuit" in Job 22:14.

Also, I never claimed that Isaiah 40:22 teaches that the earth is a sphere. I would say that there is no passage of Scripture that tells us the shape of the earth.

It's has 4 corners, come on David :)
Rev 7.1
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth,

 

[David Lamb]

It's has 4 corners, come on David :)
Rev 7.1
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth,

Well, if you take that literally, the earth cannot be a circle or a sphere, because neither of them has corners.

 

[sondring7]

Well, if you take that literally, the earth cannot be a circle or a sphere, because neither of them has corners.

The earth is a BALL David, this flat earth nonsense is good for a laugh at best :)

 

[TLHKAJ]

Your comment is a non sequitur. Here's why:

Re: your cited verse (Psa. 102:6), "like" does not mean "is"; "like" means similar to. It is a comparison.

Exactly ...like we would say, "like a fish out of water."

 

[TLHKAJ]

It's has 4 corners, come on David :)
Rev 7.1
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth,

The earth is a BALL David, this flat earth nonsense is good for a laugh at best :)

The Word of God states that the earth is a circle.

Now, explain the four corners of a ball. lol

 

[David Lamb]

The earth is a BALL David, this flat earth nonsense is good for a laugh at best :)

Yes, I agree.

 

[David Lamb]

The Word of God states that the earth is a circle.

Now, explain the four corners of a ball. lol

Can you explain how a circle has corners?

 

[David in NJ]

I know the Job verse is not about the earth. I just meant that the same Hebrew word that is translated "circle" in Isaiah 40:22 is translated "circuit" in Job.

Good Morning Brother,

Please watch the short 2 minute video on flooding in New Mexico

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/evacuations-underway-as-southwest-flooding-threatens-dam-failure/1940430

 

[TLHKAJ]

Can you explain how a circle has corners?

Can you explain how a ball has corners?

 

[TLHKAJ]

Can you explain how a circle has corners?

Since the Word of God does mention the circle of the earth, and does NOT mention the earth being a ball hurling through space ...why not start there? Why do you grasp onto what the world says rather than what God the Creator says?

I believe that if you are using a compass on a circle, you end up with four sections, four directions. The corners are in the center, but it's more likely at the North, South, East, and West points.

 

[David in NJ]

The earth is a BALL David, this flat earth nonsense is good for a laugh at best :)

You keep calling God's words as "nonsense".

Exposes your mindset is not with God on His Creation and Factual Science

Gal 6:7 - "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a person sows, this he will also reap."

 

[David Lamb]

Good Morning Brother,

Please watch the short 2 minute video on flooding in New Mexico

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/evacuations-underway-as-southwest-flooding-threatens-dam-failure/1940430

Well, I watched it, but I am not sure what it has to do with the shape of the earth.

 

[CrowCross]

Can you explain how a circle has corners?

Good point. Where are the corners?

 

[David Lamb]

Can you explain how a ball has corners?

As neither a sphere nor a circle have corners, then unless we say that the earth is some shape such as a square or a cube which does have corners, we must take it as meaning something such as the four main compass bearings, north, south, east and west, which is what the commentators I have read say.

 

[CrowCross]

You keep calling God's words as "nonsense".

Exposes your mindset is not with God on His Creation and Factual Science

Gal 6:7 - "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a person sows, this he will also reap."

???? Beep...beep...back the truck up...are you saying if you believe the earth is a sphere....like all the other planets are spheres...you're mocking God?

 

[David in NJ]

Well, I watched it, but I am not sure what it has to do with the shape of the earth.

Do you really believe that the LORD will accept the words of those who mock His words?

Example of mockers: "Can you explain how a circle has corners"

God has shown you and everyone Physical Laws that HE created that are easily observed even by a child = WATER

#1 - Law of Physics = WATER always seeks it's own level = 24/7 on earth
#2 - The Law of Physics = WATER becomes a SOLID when temps drop below 32 degrees farhenheit
#3 - The Law of Physics = WATER a gas thru evaporation.

When you mock God's Creation you are mocking the Creator and showing blind allegiance to the lie satan has sold the world/NASA

@sondring7

 

[David in NJ]

???? Beep...beep...back the truck up...are you saying if you believe the earth is a sphere....like all the other planets are spheres...you're mocking God?

You just spouted even more NASA deception.