If you mean water baptism, no, but the Holy Spirit baptism of Jesus...which occurs "within" when one hears Him knocking (or tugging
) and opens to Him..."even so, come Lord Jesus!"
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The PROCESS of SALVATION.
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) and opens to Him..."even so, come Lord Jesus!"
amigo de christo
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Yeah and the same goes for those who trust
sold through her intefaith of anti christ dialogue .
WHO ya think I AM GONNA TRUST IN
satan and his ecumeincal harlot , OR IN THE GOD and FATHER of our LORD and savoir JESUS ChRIST .
And a special HECK NO to these scholars of today who had done NOTHING but twist stuff .
I will cling to the HOLY SPIRIT of GOD with the bible IN MY HAND . GOD has kept me safe
from the lies and false lovey do of men . who did nothing and do nothing
but twist the image of GOD into a fake false love of a harlot that has done nothing
but made the path him VERY BROAD and FULL OF UNBELIEF .
in this all inclusive god and its false love that by means of an ecumeincal harlot
sold through her intefaith of anti christ dialogue .
WHO ya think I AM GONNA TRUST IN
satan and his ecumeincal harlot , OR IN THE GOD and FATHER of our LORD and savoir JESUS ChRIST .
And a special HECK NO to these scholars of today who had done NOTHING but twist stuff .
I will cling to the HOLY SPIRIT of GOD with the bible IN MY HAND . GOD has kept me safe
from the lies and false lovey do of men . who did nothing and do nothing
but twist the image of GOD into a fake false love of a harlot that has done nothing
but made the path him VERY BROAD and FULL OF UNBELIEF .
amigo de christo
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what i say to one i say to allIf
If you mean water baptism, no, but the Holy Spirit baptism of Jesus...which occurs "within" when one hears Him knocking (or tugging
Never trust in a harlots love . She will lie and leave ya destitute .
A harlot knows how to sell her love quite well .
She can wear any kind of garment to please the taste of any group she approaches .
But remember her chambers lead to death . And she not only can but will say GOD IS LOVE while she does it .
A harlot knows how to lie .
As does her father . And always they will please the flesh of man . Let us keep that in mind my friend .
Marvelloustime
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mk 16:16 he who believes and is baptized shall be savedIf you mean water baptism, no, but the Holy Spirit baptism of Jesus...which occurs "within" when one hears Him knocking (or tugging
mt 28:19 apostles (men) commanded to baptize
the context is water baptism
Jn 1 water baptism prepared the way
Jn 2 waters of purification prefigured baptism
Jn 3:5 born again by "water and the spirit"
Jn 3:22 immediately went to the river (water) and baptized
Jn 4 disciples made by baptism
acts 2:38 baptism
acts 8:36-38 water baptism
acts 22:16 baptism washes away sin
eph 4:5 baptism
gal 3:27 put on Christ in baptism
2 Tim 1:10 eph 2:1 and 5 brought to life in baptism
2 cor 5:17 new creation by baptism
Eph 1:13 eph 4:30 sealed by the Holy Spirit by baptism
Eph 5:26 faith and baptism
Titus 3:5 baptismal regeneration
heb 10:22 washed in baptism
1 Jn 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
1 pet 1:2 washed in Christ’s blood at baptism
1 pet 2:9 the kingdom of light
1 pet 3:20-21 baptism saves us!
The initial grace of justification is by WATER BAPTISM!
thks
Religious practices performed and yet not fully understood for centuries have purpose--but not saving purpose in and of themselves. Not unlike the Law which did not and cannot save, but only pointed to sin and the need for a Savior, water baptism also was and is simply a light unto the nations pointing to what and Who actually saves.
Meaning, we should keep doing water baptism as an example for future generations--but with the understanding that salvation only comes by the acts of Christ and His baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Otherwise we are no better than the Priests and Pharisees of Israel who by their lack of understanding crucified Christ.
“Baptismal regeneration” is the initiation into the new covenant!
Jn 3:5 cannot enter!
2 pet 1:11 an entrance shall be ministered unto you!
A sacrament is the fruit of the sacrifice of Christ, an outward (visible) sign that signifies what it accomplishes inward spirituality. (invisible) grace washing away sin by the merits of the blood of Christ!
we cannot have the inward action of grace without the outward sacrament of baptism!
Washing ez 36:25-27 zech 13:1 acts 22:16 titus 3:5
Christian baptism is an outward sign of the inward action of grace, or merits of Christ’s passion, blood, and death applied to our souls!
We cannot see the inward action of grace purifying the soul, so God gave us the outward “sign” of water washing the body to indicate the inward action of grace and connected the two.
The sacraments are signs of God’s grace! The sacraments signify what they accomplish!
The grace of justification in the power of the spirit is manifested by the sign of baptism! Jn 3:5 titus 3:5 water and the Spirit!
Jesus Christ is the sign and the sacrament!
thks
That is all merely the teachings of men, only part of which is biblical. Other parts are actually Antichrist.
That is better...but [as it is written] that eliminates water baptism, leaving only the "one" Holy Spirit baptism of Jesus ("eph 4:5 baptism").
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men are commanded to teach by Christ in person!
Lk 10:10
mt 28:19
Jn 13:20
and Christ is with them!
mt 28:20
we have no false doctrine of the bible is the only authority
where does scripture list the canon of scripture?
or produce a list of doctrines?
example:
the bible can be used to teach both infant baptism is required and infant baptism is forbidden, where does scripture tell us which in is correct?
thks
then why does Jesus command men to baptize and not the Holy Spirit? mt 28:19 Jn 3:5 with Jn 3:22
and acts 8:36-38 acts 22:16
thks
how is it different from the teaching of your sect? how do we know the truth that sets us free? who is our teacher?
thks
What are you trying to say? Your post is not clear, but fragmented. Can you explain?
Because the same example that water baptism is pointing to the one actual baptism with the Holy Spirit, would need to be shown to these many generations until the end.
But every messages to be taught, is summarized in these few words: "Let your light shine." Which is to say, such practices as water baptism were to be a light unto all nations, pointing to Christ.
I have no "sect", but Christ only. He is our Teacher, and those who are appointed by Him to teach, do not teach what is their own, nor by their own understanding, but what is His by keeping silent in church that the Holy Spirit might speak, as is the order of the day.
As for knowing the truth that sets us free, we have the light unto the gentiles, projecting many things from Israel who went before us and laid that foundation upon which we now stand (in the Old Testament). We have the elementary principles of Christ (Hebrews 6:1-2), which the apostles expounded upon, as a witness of two or three of Christ's every word. We have Paul's teaching many of which were specifically for the gentiles and the building of Christ's church--things that were only to be revealed among the gentiles. And we have the Book of Revelation which John was give to prophesy again...all that was given before in those worldly, elementary terms, but then again in spiritual terms.
But all of that is only penned--all that is written, would more than fill the earth. Which is to say, the world and the elementary terms are ultimately to be left behind (Hebrews 6:1), and to be taken up spiritually beyond the bounds or bonds of this world, as guided by the Holy Spirit. This is what Paul referred to when he spoke of pressing on, and what Jesus ultimately meant before He was taken to be crucified, saying to His disciples, "rise, let us be going!"
I've only read small amounts of what Scott has written but have seen that he trusts in the death burial resurrection of Jesus to enter Heaven and nothing else, that being the case how can he be accused of sect teachings ?
why does Jesus command men to teach us? mt 28:19
Christ and His apostolic church are one in unity! mt 28:19-20
acts 9:4 eph 5:32
The Holy Spirit leads the apostles into all truth (Jn 16:13) they must teach us! (Matt 28:19)
"christians are instructed in yhe faith"!
Lk 1:4
Matt 5:14
Matt 6:33
matt 16:18-19
matt 18:17-18
Matt 28:19
Lk 10:16
Jn 20:21
Acts 2:42
Acts 16:17
Acts 8:31
Titus 1:9
Titus 2:12
Phil 4:9
1 tim 3:15
Colossians 2:7
Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught…
Don't listen to men?
Jesus commands us to listen and obey men!
Men are commanded by Christ to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation! mt 28:19
The witnesses of Jesus Christ!
acts 1:8
He who hears you hears me!
Lk 10:16
He who receives the one I send receives me! Jn 13:20
acts 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
acts 2:42 doctrine of the apostles.
acts 8:31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
Acts 16:30
And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
acts 16:17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.
1 cor 11:23
For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you...
2 thes 2:15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
to reject them is to reject Jesus Christ!
and commandments!
mt 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Acts 1:2
Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
1 thes 4:2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.
all the teachings of men!
but you will refuse to believe and obey!
all the teaching of the apostolic church are binding (mt 16:18-29) on all christians includes the 255 dogmas with the decrees of the valid councils!
thks
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