I have no problem with teaching and practicing baptism.
I was simply saying baptism isn't a requirement for salvation.
SHOULD I BE WATER BAPTIZED?
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I was simply saying baptism isn't a requirement for salvation.
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Great question to ask the Several denominations who have Several different traditions of water:
Why is there so Much Confusion Causing Division over water baptism?:
Thus, we are not resisting God's Word Of Truth, just simply getting It Rightly
Divided in order to eliminate all the 'traditional' Confusion, eh?:
The Uncertain Trumpet of water baptism
+ / or:
Water That Divides
Grace and Peace.
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And another question for newbies starting out on God's Grace journey for themselves:
Which Commands of God Are we to Obey today, Rightly Divided?:
I have decided to follow Jesus?
Which Commands of God Are we to Obey today, Rightly Divided?:
I have decided to follow Jesus?
The problem with that is it always ends up being a debate over whether baptism is a requirement for salvation. That shouldn't even be an issue and just distracts from the real issue: that is, God's word teaches us to baptize and get baptized.
I agree..we should all get baptized.
Do you think it matters if we are immersed, affussion or the method is aspersion?
Grailhunter
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Just think about Yeshua and you are saved?
Find in the scriptures were repentance, baptism, and the Bread and Wine Ritual are not required to be saved from Hell and resurrected and go to Heaven.
If you pray to God...no verbal communication...and ask for forgiveness, understanding what Jesus did for you...are you saved or must you physically speak the words?
John 3:16. Baptism isn't mentioned.
Grailhunter
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Religious beliefs based on what is not said, is not a good way to formulate a religious belief. But what it does say....Why do you call Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say? Luke 6:46
All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you” (Matthew 28:18–20)
Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38
Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. John chapter 6 explains that that the Bread and Wine ritual is required, but specifically John 6:53-54 So what kind of precarious situation is it if you are saved, but you have no life in you and Yeshua does not raise you on the last day?
And the "Western Christians" have to face this reality as well, even today particularly when you leave the safe cocoon you dwell in.
Proverbs 4:7 says, "The beginning of wisdom is this: Get wisdom."
My message is, "The beginning of baptism is this: Get baptized."
While others endlessly debate whether baptism is required for salvation, my message is clear: Get baptized. That's what God's word teaches us to do. It doesn't matter if you think it's required for salvation or not, you need to get baptized.
Water immersion baptism is not taught by Jesus via Paul as a requirement for 2026 believers to enter Heaven
If you have the wisdom, then list the verses where Jesus via Paul teaches it is a requirement :)
If you want to debate if baptism is required for salvation you'll have to find someone else, I'm not interested.
Paul himself was baptized, as commanded by Jesus. Paul baptized some disciples but delegated baptizing to others, just as Jesus did.
Always obey Jesus, new believers. Be baptized.
Always obey Jesus, new believers. Be baptized.
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