to only address your one statement
which said do you beleive that JESUS ressurected all those OT testament saints
only to have them live and die again . OF COURSE NOT .
But you cant make that case to support the two witnesses .
However you would be right about the fact THAT JESUS did ressurect them
AND No it was not to live and then die again . HE IS THE RESSURECTION
and upon HIS RESSURECTION the OT saints arose . fact is the bible says that .
For us we will not taste of death . We will not see corruption .
To be absent from the body is to be present with the LORD .
THERE was no ressurection BEFORE JESUS was RESSURECTED . HE was the first born from the dead .
For the grave could not hold him , HE had done no wrong . In
fact BY his death HE was able to take the keys from HE who has power over death , that is the devil .
And in part , YES we are walking in new ressurected life . BUT T HERE WILL ALSO BE
RESSURECTION day of the just and the unjust . WE who are already alive in Christ
will not face the second death . But all who rejected HIM , ALL who also said it was okay to call GOD a liar .
OH THEY GONNA FACE the second death all right .
And what do you suppose i meant by all who said it was OKAY to call GOD a liar .
I MEAN THESE ALL inclusive wolves of an ecumeincal harlot
WHO sold the false religoins a lie , and even chrsitendom a lie . and worse they did it using JESUS name .
THEM other religoins to include even the jews who dont believe on Christ .
THEY ARE ALL calling GOD a liar . Because they do NOT BLEIEVE the testimony GOD gave of the SON .
And beleive you me , SEEING all liars will have their part in the lake of fire
CALLING GOD A LIAR or saying as these wolves in wool do that its okay to . NOPE they gonna roast alive ON JESUS day .
@amigo de christo wrote:
"But you cant make that case to support the two witnesses."
EB's reply:
Yes you can! That depends on
who the two witnesses are, and
when one understands the time of their appearance
"was", "is", or
"shall be".
Because the account of the "Two witnesses", which is in reference to Zech. 4:14, is found in the book of Rev., it is falsely believed by many that the event of their appearance "shall" take place in the future, meaning even
after our existence.
Yes, the book of Rev. (written in 96 AD) is a prophetic book of the future, but that future actually began during the
testimonies given by John the Baptist and Jesus.
Heb. 1
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Q. When did "these last days" begin??
A. Heb. 1:2, when God spoke to us through Jesus.
Therefore, concerning this present Age of God's Grace and forgiveness through faith in Jesus, from our point of view after 2026 years, much of time itself has passed for what must be fulfilled in Revelation. Have we missed anything along the way, that might need to be corrected, for that which we have once believed? Yes!! The Two Witnesses!
Did the two witnesses already come before that great and dreadful day of the Lord"? Malachi 4:5.
In light of Zech 4:1-3 and Rev. 11:3-4... YES, THEY HAVE!! They are known of as being symbolically called the two olive trees
Zech. 4:1-3
4 And the angel that talked with me came again, and waked me, as a man that is wakened out of his sleep.
2 And said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all of gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his seven lamps thereon, and seven pipes to the seven lamps, which are upon the top thereof:
3
And two olive trees by it, one upon the
right side of the bowl, and the other upon the
left side thereof.
Rev. 1:30
The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the
seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches:
and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
Rev.2:1
Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write;
These things saith he [Jesus] that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand,
who walketh in the midst of the seven golden
candlesticks.
Rev. 11:3-4
3 And I will give power
[authority] unto
my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days
[3.5 years], clothed in sackcloth
4 These are the
two olive trees** [two witnesses], and the
two candlesticks** [two churches] standing before the God of the earth
.
It is imperative that we correctly understand that Rev. 11:3-4 is describing
two literal people and
two literal churches.
Now, for all of that, we have learned two things:
1.
The two olive trees are John the Baptist and Jesus.
2. The
two candlesticks are the two churches, being the saints who
were under
the Old Covenant church, and we today who are under the New Covenant church.
