IS THERE ONLY WATER BAPTISM?

[Eternally Grateful]

Matthew 5:44,
- but I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you

1Corinthians 13:6,
- Love does not rejoice in iniquity but rejoices in the truth

Proverbs 24:17-18,
- do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles
Lest the LORD see it, and it displeases Him, and He turn away His wrath from him


Romans 1:32,
- does not rejoice in iniquity but rejoices in truth

True Christian love does not take pleasure or celebrate wrongdoing


Galatians 5:19-21 those who make a practice of these things will not enter the kingdom of God.
*contentions : those who take pleasure in quarrels, disputes, arguing.

*Dissensions: those who take part in or encourage divisions and discord

- now the works of the flesh are evident which are:
Adultery
Fornication
Uncleaness
Lewdness
Idolatry
Sorcery
Hatred
*contentions
Jealousies
Outbursts of wrath
Selfish ambitions
*dissensions
Heresies
Envy
Murder
Drunkenness
Revelries
And the like
Of which I tell you beforehand just as I also told you in times past, that,
those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God

Loving quarrles, discord, dissensions fits the kind of conduct Paul condemns here.
Paul plainly states those who take pleasure in such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

brother

once again, worry about your legalistic gospel of baptism in water for salvation.

Not me laughing at two legalists arguing about all the works they think they must do to get saved.

 

[Titus]

brother

once again, worry about your legalistic gospel of baptism in water for salvation.

Not me laughing at two legalists arguing about all the works they think they must do to get saved.

You need to tell the apostle Paul not to be concerned about how people think and live.
Galatians 5:19-21.
Your religion has convinced you, you've got nothing to fear about heaven or hell.
You better listen to Paul.
He teaches no one will inherit the kingdom of God that practise any of these works of the flesh.
Galatians 5:19-21 - now the works of the flesh are manifest which are these....

I pray some day we will be brothers in Christ.
Gods power is found only in the one true gospel, Ephesians 4:5 ; Romans 1:16.

Any teaching that alters Gods plan for saving man is no longer the unmolested gospel of Christ.

Belief alone to be saved is not Jesus' gospel.
Mark 16:15-16 ; Acts 2:38 ; Romans 10:9-10 ; Revelation 2:10.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You need to tell the apostle Paul not to be concerned about how people think and live.
Galatians 5:19-21.
Your religion has convinced you, you've got nothing to fear about heaven or hell.
You better listen to Paul.
He teaches no one will inherit the kingdom of God that practise any of these works of the flesh.
Galatians 5:19-21 - now the works of the flesh are manifest which are these....

I pray some day we will be brothers in Christ.
Gods power is found only in the one true gospel, Ephesians 4:5 ; Romans 1:16.

Any teaching that alters Gods plan for saving man is no longer the unmolested gospel of Christ.

Belief alone to be saved is not Jesus' gospel.
Mark 16:15-16 ; Acts 2:38 ; Romans 10:9-10 ; Revelation 2:10.

You just proved my point brother

Your trying to earn salvation. Don;t attack other people when you are trying to earn your own salvation. You need to focus on self.

You and the one trying to tell you to sell everything were funny. You were both talking past each other. So we basically have 21 choices.. Slam both of you for your false gospel. or laugh at you.

I would rather laugh, then attack and judge.

 

[Titus]

Your trying to earn salvation. Don;t attack other people when you are trying to earn your own salvation. You need to focus on self.

No, I know I cant earn my sins away.
Salvation is by Gods grace and my faith.
God requires that my faith be more than just believing in some Biblical facts.

I must live according to Christ law.
Matthew 16:27,
- for the Son of man shall come in the glory of His Father with His angels and then He shall reward evey man according to his works

James 2:12,
- So speak ye and so do, as they that shall be judged by the perfect law of liberty

 

[sondring7]

one who tried to get to heaven by their acts of obedience.

And not one who obeys because they are saved forever.

++++one who tried to get to heaven by their acts of obedience.
A good short description of a 'legalist'

++++And not one who obeys because they are saved forever.
What level of obey equates to someone who is saved forever ?

 

[sondring7]

Matthew 5:44,
- but I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you

1Corinthians 13:6,
- Love does not rejoice in iniquity but rejoices in the truth

Proverbs 24:17-18,
- do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles
Lest the LORD see it, and it displeases Him, and He turn away His wrath from him


Romans 1:32,
- does not rejoice in iniquity but rejoices in truth

True Christian love does not take pleasure or celebrate wrongdoing


Galatians 5:19-21 those who make a practice of these things will not enter the kingdom of God.
*contentions : those who take pleasure in quarrels, disputes, arguing.

*Dissensions: those who take part in or encourage divisions and discord

- now the works of the flesh are evident which are:
Adultery
Fornication
Uncleaness
Lewdness
Idolatry
Sorcery
Hatred
*contentions
Jealousies
Outbursts of wrath
Selfish ambitions
*dissensions
Heresies
Envy
Murder
Drunkenness
Revelries
And the like
Of which I tell you beforehand just as I also told you in times past, that,
those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God

Loving quarrles, discord, dissensions fits the kind of conduct Paul condemns here.
Paul plainly states those who take pleasure in such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Focus on the teachings of Jesus via Paul so that your confusion can start to reduce :)

 

[gpresdo]

IS THERE ONLY WATER BAPTISM?

No.

Water Baptism is a “Ritual to satisfy the Eyes of Earthly men … and Induction into membership of that particular Denominational church”.

Spiritual Baptism is A Baptism of the Holy Spirit “entering INTO that man, and NOT seen by the Eyes of earthly men.”

John 14:
[17] Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


Glory to God,
Taken

Where does the bible say that we do not have to be baptized?

 

[gpresdo]

You just proved my point brother

Your trying to earn salvation. Don;t attack other people when you are trying to earn your own salvation. You need to focus on self.

You and the one trying to tell you to sell everything were funny. You were both talking past each other. So we basically have 21 choices.. Slam both of you for your false gospel. or laugh at you.

I would rather laugh, then attack and judge.

When we witness for Christ.....including helping another to understand the bible...is that working for salvtion?

 

[Taken]

Where does the bible say that we do not have to be baptized?

The point was regarding “WATER Baptism”,
(Which a man does) being required or Not.

I say Not.

However “Baptism of the Holy Spirit”, (which the Lord Does) and is required to be a member of Christs Church.


Glory to God,
Taken

 

[sondring7]

Where does the bible say that we do not have to be baptized?

What do you believe are the verses where Paul teaches the baptism process for believers saved & sealed by the 1 Cor 15.1-4 Gospel that Jesus Gal 2.2 uniquely taught to Paul ?

 

[David Lamb]

When we witness for Christ.....including helping another to understand the bible...is that working for salvtion?

No. We cannot witness for Christ unless we ourselves are already Christians. We don't somehow become "more saved" when we help somebody who isn't yet a Christian to understand the Bible.

 

[Titus]

Where does the bible say that we do not have to be baptized?

Matthew 28:18-20,
- and Jesus came and spake unto them saying, All power is given unto Me in heaven and in earth
- Go ye therefore and teach all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
- teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you and lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen

 

[Titus]

Where does the bible say that we do not have to be baptized?

James 1:22,
- but be ye doers of the word and not hearers only deceiving your own selves

 

[Titus]

Your trying to earn salvation.
I would rather laugh, then attack and judge

You judged me.

 

[sondring7]

You judged me.

Well are your trying to earn Heaven entry ?

 

[Titus]

Well are your trying to earn Heaven entry ?

Is doing what Jesus says trying to earn salvation? Read post # 164

 

[sondring7]

Is doing what Jesus says trying to earn salvation? Read post # 164

Was that YES you are trying to earn Heaven entry ?

 

[gpresdo]

Matthew 28:18-20,
- and Jesus came and spake unto them saying, All power is given unto Me in heaven and in earth
- Go ye therefore and teach all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
- teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you and lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen

That scripture does not support your no baptism position?

 

[gpresdo]

James 1:22,
- but be ye doers of the word and not hearers only deceiving your own selves

Doesnt fit. Try again.

 

[sondring7]

That scripture does not support your no baptism position?

Since Paul taught EXACTLY the same as the other Apostles list the verses where Jesus VIA Paul taught water immersion baptism is a requirement for GP to enter Heaven :)