Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

[1stCenturyLady]

THE absolute dire necessity to FIRST beleive on JESUS .
Now that is being omitted by your king epi , seen as religious extremism

Yes, what a university professor teaches would seem "extreme" to a kindergarten teacher who knows only the first steps. But you have no right to make epi just teach the basics, when his students know more than a kindergarten babysitter.

8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.

Don't you want to know more?

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes, what a university professor teaches would seem "extreme" to a kindergarten teacher who knows only the first steps. But you have no right to make epi just teach the basics, when his students know more than a kindergarten babysitter.

please if you really believe that you cannot see .
EPI is not trying to teach meats , HE IS DENYING the dire need to first bleive ON JESUS
while trying to bring you all meats .
That aint no meat i am gonna eat sister .
I have pratically pleaded with that man to say WE must FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS .
Not only will he not do so , while trying to claim HE DOES SO ,
he went after me for preaching the dire need to BELIEVE ON JE SUS to an atheist .
SO i have all rights given BY GOD to expose that man . And expose him i will TILL HE REPENTS
and starts saying THAT ONE MUST ABSOLUTELY FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS
And then try and teach them and warn them to walk as did CHRIST .
Sorry but none who beleives not on JESUS and when told they need too and yet reject , IS SAVED
nor can they even walk By the POWER of the SPIRIT .
THE SPIRIT testifies on JESUS CHRIST . THE SPIRIT does not make void the dire need TO BLEIEVE HE IS CHRIST
But remember today . I did what i could to remind you and warn you . SO its not on me . ITS NOW ON YOU .
And if you and epi and others like this continue walking in a false g ospel of unbeleif that is on YOU ALL .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes, what a university professor teaches would seem "extreme" to a kindergarten teacher who knows only the first steps. But you have no right to make epi just teach the basics, when his students know more than a kindergarten babysitter.

8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.

Don't you want to know more?

EPI is going after those who say YE MUST FIRST believe . hello .
So that aint even baby steps padnah . You are trying so hard to resist the fact
that epi does that . WHY .
Do you really honor man more than THE SON . ANYONE who is negating the fact that one must first belive on JESUS
IS teaching a false gospel . And not only will he never once
answer me about the fact ONE MUST FIRST BELEIVE , HE GOES after me , or went after me for preaching
TO AN UNBELEIVER , aka AN ATHIEST , OF HIS DIRE NEED to repent and beleive on JESUS .
Cause here is the problem sister .
INCLUSIVISM SOLD EPI a fat lie . and i know all about inclusvism .
IT even believes mulsims , buddists , atheist or any other ist
IS following JESUS and does have the SPIRIT , if they are simply keeping his basic teachings .
FAT LIE sister . lie of anti christ .
WANNA know how easy it is to disprove that .
Because all them false religoins DO NOT acknwledge JESUS as the SON of GOD , CHRIST of GOD .
And you gots to know an atheist darn sure dont .
AND NO MAN BY THE HOLY GHOST would ever call JESUS accursed
and by the HOLY GHOST we call JESUS LORD . But if you want to support a man
who allows unbelief , who allows false religoins to remain in a false religoin
and just sell them all some of jesus teachings and act like that is good enough , THEN THAT IS ON YOU .
GOD desires the GLORY sister , and those false religons as well as an atheist
CALL GOD A LIAR . I SURE DONT SEE ANY GLORY in calling GOD a liar . DO YOU .
Exactly . enough with this false gospel . And expose it i will till the last breath ebbs out my lungs .
AND I , by grace shall pOINT ONLY to JESUS CHRIST with the reminder of the absolute dire need
to BELIEVE HE IS CHRIST , TO BELIEVE HE was crucified for our sins and that HE was raised again for our justification .
Watch out , you have been decieved . and EPI has long been decieved .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes, what a university professor teaches would seem "extreme" to a kindergarten teacher who knows only the first steps. But you have no right to make epi just teach the basics, when his students know more than a kindergarten babysitter.

8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.

Don't you want to know more?

I dont heed professor Unbelief . that makes void the dire necessity to First BELIEVE ON JESUS .
And professor epi even goes after t hose who remind an atheist of his dire need TO BELIEVE ON JESUS .
Kinda odd dont ya think .
The last time i checked when the jailor ran in to paul and silas and asked but sirs what must I DO
to be saved . Silas did not first say HEY you must believe on JESUS and then paul call silas a RELIGOUS extremist .
NO MAM and h ighly wise so called teacheress
THEY actually preached the dire need to beleive on JESUS to him and TO his household . good thing epi was not in prison with them .
HE had called both pual and silas RELGIOUS extremists . Oopsy we got us a false gospel being sold by epi .
SO put that in your cup of tea and take a good long drink of it .

 

[1stCenturyLady]

EPI is going after those who say YE MUST FIRST believe . hello .
So that aint even baby steps padnah . You are trying so hard to resist the fact
that epi does that . WHY .
Do you really honor man more than THE SON . ANYONE who is negating the fact that one must first belive on JESUS
IS teaching a false gospel . And not only will he never once
answer me about the fact ONE MUST FIRST BELEIVE , HE GOES after me , or went after me for preaching
TO AN UNBELEIVER , aka AN ATHIEST , OF HIS DIRE NEED to repent and beleive on JESUS .
Cause here is the problem sister .
INCLUSIVISM SOLD EPI a fat lie . and i know all about inclusvism .
IT even believes mulsims , buddists , atheist or any other ist
IS following JESUS and does have the SPIRIT , if they are simply keeping his basic teachings .
FAT LIE sister . lie of anti christ .
WANNA know how easy it is to disprove that .
Because all them false religoins DO NOT acknwledge JESUS as the SON of GOD , CHRIST of GOD .
And you gots to know an atheist darn sure dont .
AND NO MAN BY THE HOLY GHOST would ever call JESUS accursed
and by the HOLY GHOST we call JESUS LORD . But if you want to support a man
who allows unbelief , who allows false religoins to remain in a false religoin
and just sell them all some of jesus teachings and act like that is good enough , THEN THAT IS ON YOU .
GOD desires the GLORY sister , and those false religons as well as an atheist
CALL GOD A LIAR . I SURE DONT SEE ANY GLORY in calling GOD a liar . DO YOU .
Exactly . enough with this false gospel . And expose it i will till the last breath ebbs out my lungs .
AND I , by grace shall pOINT ONLY to JESUS CHRIST with the reminder of the absolute dire need
to BELIEVE HE IS CHRIST , TO BELIEVE HE was crucified for our sins and that HE was raised again for our justification .
Watch out , you have been decieved . and EPI has long been decieved .

Now you are bearing false witness. Neither epi nor I believe muslims, buddists or anyone of other religions can stay loyal to their false gods and go to heaven. But we are also past believing on Jesus at some point in your life as all there is if you want to be holy. Do you believe OSAS?

 

[1stCenturyLady]

I dont heed professor Unbelief . that makes void the dire necessity to First BELIEVE ON JESUS .
And professor epi even goes after t hose who remind an atheist of his dire need TO BELIEVE ON JESUS .
Kinda odd dont ya think .
The last time i checked when the jailor ran in to paul and silas and asked but sirs what must I DO
to be saved . Silas did not first say HEY you must believe on JESUS and then paul call silas a RELIGOUS extremist .
NO MAM and h ighly wise so called teacheress
THEY actually preached the dire need to beleive on JESUS to him and TO his household . good thing epi was not in prison with them .
HE had called both pual and silas RELGIOUS extremists . Oopsy we got us a false gospel being sold by epi .
SO put that in your cup of tea and take a good long drink of it .

Why are you trying to save born again Christians who are full of the Spirit?

 

[1stCenturyLady]

I dont heed professor Unbelief . that makes void the dire necessity to First BELIEVE ON JESUS .
And professor epi even goes after t hose who remind an atheist of his dire need TO BELIEVE ON JESUS .
Kinda odd dont ya think .
The last time i checked when the jailor ran in to paul and silas and asked but sirs what must I DO
to be saved . Silas did not first say HEY you must believe on JESUS and then paul call silas a RELIGOUS extremist .
NO MAM and h ighly wise so called teacheress
THEY actually preached the dire need to beleive on JESUS to him and TO his household . good thing epi was not in prison with them .
HE had called both pual and silas RELGIOUS extremists . Oopsy we got us a false gospel being sold by epi .
SO put that in your cup of tea and take a good long drink of it .

I was mistaken in calling you a teacher. You're proving to be in over your head.

12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food. 13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. 14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

 

[amigo de christo]

Why are you trying to save born again Christians who are full of the Spirit?

same thing epi basically told me .
Only not so fast . Paul and all of them also reminded the CHURCH
to keep the faith , to keep the original gospel .
HE even reminded them about those who do not .
However i knew when epi was telling me that it was just a way to silence my mouth .
hopefully you are not doing the same .
And would you like to know the proof of it .
WHEN i went to preach the dire need to repent and believe on JESUS to one outside the church , TO AN ATHIEST
There was epi , to prove exactly what i have long known about him .
lying and using JESUS own words to an atheist , Saying he who recieves a righteous man
recieves a righteous mans reward. No ye need to first beleive on JESUS .
BUT wait before you even try and make excuse for that .
WHEN I came on and did preach to an ATHEIST ,, why there came epi to the rescue
to free thta athiest from the very gospel i had preached to him about his need to believe on JESUS
with a fast reminder its religious extremism . SO again put that in your defend epi cup .
That man preaches a false gospel and i will not hear him and will only expose him .
And now it seems he has a faithf ul sister doing all to defend him . EVEN after hearing all that .
SOMETHING dead wrong in y ou as well sister . DO you really love a lie . it seems you do
OR maybe you just love defending one who brings such a false gospel . either way it will and does make you guilty .
SO if you really DO beleive ONE DOES NEED to bELIEVE ON JESUS
Y ou better flee epi . Cause while he , while oprah whimphrey , while the popes
while more and more in narland and prostestant ville might cliam they do .
OH NO THEY DONT . they only use HIS name to DECIEVE . they preach another jesus .
One that might bring some of jesus teachings , but will dENY the dire need to have to beleive on HIM .
And that lil lady IS not THE J ESUS and it cannot save them .

 

[amigo de christo]

I was mistaken in calling you a teacher. You're proving to be in over your head.

12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food. 13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. 14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

well i never asked you to call me anything at all .
But on that note , even if you were male i would have rooted you out of any teaching position in any church
i was in . and put a bible in your hand . You keep holding to epi . even after all i told you .
AND not only will YOU also not acknowedge one must first beleive . SOMETHING is not right at all
Just remember it was not I that preached a false gospel . By grace i simply warned against all who do so
and warned all not to support such .

 

[amigo de christo]

Why are you trying to save born again Christians who are full of the Spirit?

because any who is b orn again wo uld not have preached a false gospel
day in and day out for years . not to mention
is not wrong at all to remind us all about the dire need to Continue to hold to the one true gospel .
Your running out of steam and gas .

 

[amigo de christo]

Now you are bearing false witness. Neither epi nor I believe muslims, buddists or anyone of other religions can stay loyal to their false gods and go to heaven. But we are also past believing on Jesus at some point in your life as all there is if you want to be holy. Do you believe OSAS?

not so my friend . apparently you dont know much about inclusivism .
OH IT DOES say a muslim , or any other religion , etc
who is so called keeping the teachings of the two comandments to love your GOD and your neighbor
THEN THEY ALREADY SERVE the same GOD WE DO .
Guess what
Do you really THINK a muslim , buddist , or even atheist or any other religoin
even LOVES GOD .
NO . for they had they loved GOD they would have BELEIVE ON JESUS they darn sure would have left
that false religoin and calimed JESUS IS THE CHRIST and my old relgioin was false .
Just like the true conversion has always done . IT always says bueno BUY to the false religon
SO you might wanna watch out . YOU might not say so but you do support an inclusvian .
AND I know full well what that religoin teaches . A LIE of anti christ .

 

[1stCenturyLady]

And would you like to know the proof of it .
WHEN i went to preach the dire need to repent and believe on JESUS to one outside the church , TO AN ATHIEST
There was epi , to prove exactly what i have long known about him .
lying and using JESUS own words to an atheist , Saying he who recieves a righteous man
recieves a righteous mans reward. No ye need to first beleive on JESUS .
BUT wait before you even try and make excuse for that .
WHEN I came on and did preach to an ATHEIST ,, why there came epi to the rescue
to free thta athiest from the very gospel i had preached to him about his need to believe on JESUS
with a fast reminder its religious extremism . SO again put that in your defend epi cup .

I know nothing of epi doing this. Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't and you are bearing false witness again as you did about me.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

not so my friend . apparently you dont know much about inclusivism .
OH IT DOES say a muslim , or any other religion , etc
who is so called keeping the teachings of the two comandments to love your GOD and your neighbor
THEN THEY ALREADY SERVE the same GOD WE DO .
Guess what
Do you really THINK a muslim , buddist , or even atheist or any other religoin
even LOVES GOD .
NO . for they had they loved GOD they would have BELEIVE ON JESUS they darn sure would have left
that false religoin and calimed JESUS IS THE CHRIST and my old relgioin was false .
Just like the true conversion has always done . IT always says bueno BUY to the false religon
SO you might wanna watch out . YOU might not say so but you do support an inclusvian .
AND I know full well what that religoin teaches . A LIE of anti christ .

Show me a post that epi includes muslims and buddists as saved without Christ.

 

[amigo de christo]

Why are you trying to save born again Christians who are full of the Spirit?

Speaking OF this HOLY SPIRIT .
I sure dont see it at work in many at all .
I see no spiritual discernment in many .
YOU might wanna go and do some examining of your own self .
take it all the way back
to the time you so called BELIEVE GOD TOLD YOU , YOU were a teacher .
THEN showed you how wrong paul and others were .
THAT did NOT COME of GOD . PRIDE sister . that will be your ruin
and it is why you now gather with men like epi .
I do not see any spiritual discernment in you . Now i say that not to condemn you
but to warn you . PRIDE was the downfall of lucifer
and PRIDE is the downfall of man and of woman .
SO rather than trying to find ways around what paul and others wrote .
TRY BELIEVING IT for a change .

 

[amigo de christo]

Show me a post that epi includes muslims and buddists as saved without Christ.

I already showed you what he said to me when i preached the dire need to BELEIVE ON JESUS to an atheist .
HEY if that aint good enough for you , THEN something is dead wron g .
See i think you probably already believe a heavy chunk of inclsuvism .
Maybe not as much as epi , but you are surely glued to him . Something went wrong sister .
SO all i can do now is
remind you to repent from even the mindset that GOD called you , to be a teacher .
THAT IS PRIDE sister . all the way that is pride . you stepped into an office MEANT ONLY for the man .
THEN you actually beleived it was GOD who told you it was okay and who showed you where pual went wrong .
REALLY . whats next . i mean we can do this with any sin . THEY DO IT WITH HOMOSEXUALITY
And i am sure you are NOT PRO that . But we cannot pick and choose what sins to cast out and what sins to hold onto .
This too is why i am so hated by both sides , the protestant and the catholic
and the liberal and the conservative . cause i expose their errors . i dont pick and choose
I expose all errors and shall continue to remind all that JESUS aint no minstir of ANY sin
NOR THE SIN OF UNBELIEF either . watch out . PRIDE has a hold on you . And it will be your ruin
if you cast it not off . YOU can start afresh . I aint condmening you , I am simply warning you .

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Speaking OF this HOLY SPIRIT .
I sure dont see it at work in many at all .
I see no spiritual discernment in many .
YOU might wanna go and do some examining of your own self .
take it all the way back
to the time you so called BELIEVE GOD TOLD YOU , YOU were a teacher .
THEN showed you how wrong paul and others were .
THAT did NOT COME of GOD . PRIDE sister . that will be your ruin
and it is why you now gather with men like epi .
I do not see any spiritual discernment in you . Now i say that not to condemn you
but to warn you . PRIDE was the downfall of lucifer
and PRIDE is the downfall of man and of woman .
SO rather than trying to find ways around what paul and others wrote .
TRY BELIEVING IT for a change .

Why do you keep pressing people to stay on milk? Is it because you wouldn't understand the meat? Stay on milk if you like, but don't encourage others to stay stunted also.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

I already showed you what he said to me when i preached the dire need to BELEIVE ON JESUS to an atheist .

I didn't see it, so if it exists, show me again.

 

[amigo de christo]

I didn't see it, so if it exists, show me again.

if he didnt remove it i might be able to find it and show you . he cant have removed my responses to him .

 

[Lizbeth]

Epi is an inclusivian and a hard core beleiver of it . And i already seen what it teaches .
ITS all a well cloaked lie to be presented as though its a walk by which man can attain . WHAT MAN CAN NEVER ATTAIN

Most false religions/belief systems are trying to attain their version of "holiness" without Christ. But Christ is the ONLY way.

I don't know what Episkopos believes specifically with respect to the false ecumenical "all roads lead to God" lie........he has said that he believes idol worshipers can inherit eternal life without faith in Christ as long as they are righteous and think they are serving "God" with their idol worship. (Is idol worship righteous...? Hmmm....don't think so.) And he is free to correct or clarify if I've misunderstood or if he misstated. But I think he said fairly recently that he does not subscribe to the interfaith ecumenical movement if memory serves, although I don't know what that means to him and it seems to contradict some of these other things he believes.

The pride of man is as the pride of lucifer
it leads ONLY to their destruction and perdition on JUDGMENT day .

Yes, that's why it says this:

1Ti 3:6
Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

Pride is common to all flesh....I believe it is at the root of the fall, both Lucifer and the human race. We always need to guard our hearts and this is one reason the Lord allows suffering in the lives of His children....like even Paul needed a thorn in his flesh for this reason. Count it all joy - it's His love for us for our spiritual good, to keep us from falling.

 

[Judge Hardcastle]

If all sin is sin, then what did Christ come to do? What did Jesus accomplish by dying to get sinners to heaven.

1. Cleanse our past sins?

Yes.

2. Provide no condemnation for our past, present and future sins?

Yes.

As long as we are believing in and relying on Christ for the forgiveness of sin, the completed but ongoing ministry of Christ before the Father in the heavenly tabernacle continually provides forgiveness and cleansing for our sin.

For the born again believing person, Christ is interceding for them, not condeming them.


Romans 8:31-34
31What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.

Hebrews 7:24-25
24because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood. 25Therefore he is able to save completely c those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them.