What we are now suppose to be doing--Jesus repeated over and over...

[amigo de christo]

I never said you didn't understand your own point. I'm questioning whether your point agrees with Scripture. You keep accusing me of rejecting correction, yet you haven't shown from Scripture where I'm wrong.

Paul said, "Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge" (1 Corinthians 14:29).

So why should your teaching be exempt from examination?

And quoting Matthew 7:2 about judgment doesn't prove your point. That warning applies to you just as much as it does to me.

Stop making accusations and answer the question. Where does Scripture say your teaching is beyond correction?

what did i warn us was the five words by which they mangaged to silence the t ruth and thus allowed leaven to take over .
Judge not God is love . so are you really shocked he quoated the judge not to you .
They have five words and emotions
By which they silence the scriptures that does expose their fables . cause they darn sure cannot bring scrips to support them .
Just a friendly reminder my friend . As for us and the other sheep , WE shall stick to the scriptures .

 

[amigo de christo]

BTW: I am still sincerely interested in what you would answer a person if they asked you " What must I do tyo be saved"?

as i greatly feared its now all over the churches . I spoke to a lady today in walmart .
And beleive me when i say you wont like the answer to that question . For to them its no longer necessary
to have to beleive on JESUS to be sa ved . Its far worse than i thought .
The reason we dont see it as much on the sites is because most , not all , have left the churches .
But its coming in here too .
Soon and very soon they will have merged . And it wont just be accusations of being a religious extremist
to us who remind all of the absolute d ire need to BELEIVE ON JESUS ,
IT WILL BE LAWS ENFORCED against any who do such a t hing . ALL inclusive laws of the all inclusive god .
And i said god and not GOD because it is the devil not GOD .

 

[amigo de christo]

@ScottA, your teaching is false, and your claims of receiving higher spiritual revelation do not give you authority to contradict God's written Word!

You keep suggesting that Christians who rely on Scripture are somehow resisting the Holy Spirit. That is nonsense! The Holy Spirit inspired Scripture! Second Peter 1:21 declares that holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Second Timothy 3:16-17 declares that Scripture is God-given and sufficient to equip us for every good work.

Stop pretending that your private interpretations carry the authority of the Holy Spirit! First John 4:1 commands us to test the spirits, not blindly accept anyone claiming to speak for God.

You also claim Jesus has already returned spiritually through believers. That is false teaching! Acts 1:11 declares that this same Jesus will return as He ascended, and Revelation 1:7 says, "Every eye shall see him." Christ dwelling in believers does not fulfill or cancel His promised return.

When asked how someone is saved, you failed to give the plain gospel answer: "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved" (Acts 16:31). Salvation is by grace through faith, not by keeping commandments (Ephesians 2:8-9).

And stop accusing people of resisting the Holy Spirit simply because they expose your errors with Scripture. Rejecting your teaching is not rejecting God! It is obeying God.

Paul warned in Galatians 1:8 that even an angel from heaven must be rejected for preaching another gospel. You certainly have no authority to introduce teachings that contradict God's Word.

ScottA, your supposed spiritual revelations cannot overrule Scripture. Stop twisting God's Word to defend your claims.

To everyone reading this: Test what this man teaches against Scripture. Do not follow someone simply because he claims the Holy Spirit revealed something to him.

Jesus warned, "Take heed that no man deceive you." (Matthew 24:4)

God's Word judges Scott's teaching. Scott's teaching does not judge God's Word.

It aint looking good at all my friend . and its farther along in the mainstream churches than even I thought it was .
THEY ARE MERGING DAVID . and they DO beleive it is the love of GOD as well .
STICK TO THE SCRIPTURES and YOU REMIND ALL to DO THE SAME .

 

[amigo de christo]

You are of no authority to say--yet you have said much, not only against me, but against Him who sent me.

As for me, I do not answer to you--but you will answer for every word.

So scott seeing you said to david he is of no authority to say
Does that mean in any way you cliam that you are OF such authority to say .
Its just a question is all .

 

[amigo de christo]

-T. F. Torrance said; "We came up with the idea of inerrancy because we needed another mediator between God and man, other than Jesus. So we came up with a 'doctrine' we can't even be certain of because we don't even have the original manuscripts to create a 'certainty' out of. It is a western theology that we can come up with a doctrine we can be certain of, rather than a relationship." (I am assuming by "western" he is referencing the Latin speaking Roman Catholic church)

One of the most common biblical manuscripts used to make our modern English translations, is known today as the Nestle
Text. Yet it was Prof. Eberhard Nestle himself who warned us in his Einfhrung in die Textkritik des griechischen Testaments:
"Learned men, so called CORRECTORES were, following the church meeting at Nicea 325 AD, selected by the church
authorities to scrutinize the sacred texts and rewrite them in order to correct their meaning in accordance with the views
which the church had just sanctioned."

St. Jerome wrote: "They write down not what they find but what they think is the meaning; and while they attempt to rectify the errors of others, they merely expose their own" (Jerome, Epist. lxxi.5).

This last quote of Jerome was in reference to how bad the koine Greek manuscripts were, which Jerome was translating into Latin. We have NO original autograph Koine Greek manuscripts at all today.

why do you think we have so much mass confusion my friend .
Why do you beleive we are seeing a false movment also claoked as though it be love and of GOD
and yet its love is merging pro testant catholic and the false religions .
MEN DID THIS . always cliaming to know greek or what ever their scholary minds came up with .
And wanna know what i find they all have in common .
THEY dont even trust the words of truth in that kjv bible or etc at all . THEY trust in learned men
and those learned men have the same agenda . TO MERGE THEM ALL AS ONE .

 

[amigo de christo]

You're quoting 1 Corinthians 2:15, but you're ignoring what Paul is actually talking about.

"But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man."

Read the entire chapter. Paul is explaining how the things of God are understood through the Holy Spirit. He is not saying that someone who claims to be spiritual is above correction or that nobody has the right to examine what he teaches.

If that's what Paul meant, then why does he tell the Corinthians in 1 Corinthians 14:29, "Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge"?

And why were the Bereans commended in Acts 17:11 for examining what Paul himself taught against the Scriptures?

Think about that, Scott. If even the apostle Paul's teaching was examined against Scripture, what makes you think yours shouldn't be?

You have repeatedly claimed that God sent you and that those who reject your teaching are speaking against Him. Now you're quoting a verse about spiritual discernment as though it places you beyond anyone questioning what you say.

But where does Scripture say that someone who claims to be spiritual cannot be mistaken or corrected?

First John 4:1 says, "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

That command applies to your teaching just as much as anyone else's.

Being spiritual doesn't mean you get to decide that your interpretations are God's truth and everyone who disagrees lacks understanding.

And since this discussion began with your teaching about hearing what the Spirit says, let's remember that the Holy Spirit inspired the Scriptures (2 Peter 1:21). We don't have to choose between listening to the Holy Spirit and believing God's written Word.

The Holy Spirit does not contradict the Scriptures He inspired.

So instead of quoting another verse out of context, why not answer the questions I've already asked you?

If your teaching really comes from God, you should have no objection to having it examined against God's Word.

La igleisa de ecumeincalism inclusivism tiene mas problemas que un libro de matimaticas .
Tenomos muchos problemas en la iglesia de hombres .
The churches of ecumeincal inclusivism has more problems than a math book . that is a fact my friend .
STAY GLUED IN THE BIBLE and stand firm upon the holy scriptures .
Por la madre de muerte y mintidas es una punta de mintidas .
because the mother of death and lies is a whore of lies . beware her david . She a harlot and she has infiltrated much .

 

[amigo de christo]

And frankly it dont matter what langauge its spoken in , BEWARE THE HARLOT for she has many daughters
and many sons who do her work now .
And all serve her inclusive father who though it cliams to be GOD and claims is his love , IS THE DEVIL .
El diablo .

 

[ScottA]

I never said you didn't understand your own point. I'm questioning whether your point agrees with Scripture. You keep accusing me of rejecting correction, yet you haven't shown from Scripture where I'm wrong.

Paul said, "Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge" (1 Corinthians 14:29).

So why should your teaching be exempt from examination?

And quoting Matthew 7:2 about judgment doesn't prove your point. That warning applies to you just as much as it does to me.

Stop making accusations and answer the question. Where does Scripture say your teaching is beyond correction?

What you are missing, is that I am confirming two out of three; and if you understood and believed them, you would believe me also, as Christ's sheep hear His voice, and you of your own studies have not heard but have assumed according to your own understanding.

The point here-- Is that, not just you but many, assume they can study and read, and that qualifies them to correct what legitimately comes by the Spirit according to what Jesus has arranged for these times: Which is to say, only what comes directly from the Father, and the Holy Spirit speaking through those whom Christ has appointed to do so, is to be recieved. Period. Meaning, there is no blanket Holy Spirit license, and no amount of studies, that qualify anyone to debate or make claims; and as Paul laid out, anything by any other means is not to be considered true.

As for me, regardless of what you believe, if I do what is written, you can know that I am sent by God, if not, then not. But that does not mean you can take it upon yourself to study or read and act according to your own understanding. That is not what Christ has arranged. Meanwhile, I have given my testimony, my witness, and do the works appointed to me.

 

[ScottA]

So scott seeing you said to david he is of no authority to say
Does that mean in any way you cliam that you are OF such authority to say .
Its just a question is all .

I am.

 

[Marvelloustime]

And frankly it dont matter what langauge its spoken in , BEWARE THE HARLOT for she has many daughters
and many sons who do her work now .
And all serve her inclusive father who though it cliams to be GOD and claims is his love , IS THE DEVIL .
El diablo .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

why do you think we have so much mass confusion my friend .
Why do you beleive we are seeing a false movment also claoked as though it be love and of GOD
and yet its love is merging pro testant catholic and the false religions .
MEN DID THIS . always cliaming to know greek or what ever their scholary minds came up with .
And wanna know what i find they all have in common .
THEY dont even trust the words of truth in that kjv bible or etc at all . THEY trust in learned men
and those learned men have the same agenda . TO MERGE THEM ALL AS ONE .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

as i greatly feared its now all over the churches . I spoke to a lady today in walmart .
And beleive me when i say you wont like the answer to that question . For to them its no longer necessary
to have to beleive on JESUS to be sa ved . Its far worse than i thought .
The reason we dont see it as much on the sites is because most , not all , have left the churches .
But its coming in here too .
Soon and very soon they will have merged . And it wont just be accusations of being a religious extremist
to us who remind all of the absolute d ire need to BELEIVE ON JESUS ,
IT WILL BE LAWS ENFORCED against any who do such a t hing . ALL inclusive laws of the all inclusive god .
And i said god and not GOD because it is the devil not GOD .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

as i greatly feared its now all over the churches . I spoke to a lady today in walmart .
And beleive me when i say you wont like the answer to that question . For to them its no longer necessary
to have to beleive on JESUS to be sa ved . Its far worse than i thought .
The reason we dont see it as much on the sites is because most , not all , have left the churches .
But its coming in here too .
Soon and very soon they will have merged . And it wont just be accusations of being a religious extremist
to us who remind all of the absolute d ire need to BELEIVE ON JESUS ,
IT WILL BE LAWS ENFORCED against any who do such a t hing . ALL inclusive laws of the all inclusive god .
And i said god and not GOD because it is the devil not GOD .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

I am.

That sounds more like I AM . you sure about that scott .
Now dont get me wrong i know there are true men of God that are in such authority that is given them by GOD
for to
keep the church edified and yes that means corrected as well .
BUT ALL must be tested . ANy man who says otherwise , they a false one indeed .
Of course i never said YOU said you dont need to be t ested . But if you even dare think
that you ought not be tested , You arleady swollen with the pride .
So allow me to go ahead and ask you .
SCOTT do you beleieve we ought to test all things you say .

 

[amigo de christo]

I am.

out of curiousity what makes You say YOU have the authority and yet david has no such authority .
I have a real simple saying for us all .
Its known as LET GOD be true but every man a liar .
That indeed all men , EVEN THE TRUE APOSTLES said so , must be tested .
Its true the judgment of men matters not . BUT still all things even I or anyone , including YOU
must be tested . Now if or when your words , or my words , or any m ans words
CONTRADICT THE SCRIPS . Folks better start correcting and fast . that do include me . if i say something
contrary to the holy and sacred scriptures , not only am i saying to correct me , I AM SAYING YE BETTER correct me .
But that goes for you and all others as well.

 

[amigo de christo]

What you are missing, is that I am confirming two out of three; and if you understood and believed them, you would believe me also, as Christ's sheep hear His voice, and you of your own studies have not heard but have assumed according to your own understanding.

The point here-- Is that, not just you but many, assume they can study and read, and that qualifies them to correct what legitimately comes by the Spirit according to what Jesus has arranged for these times: Which is to say, only what comes directly from the Father, and the Holy Spirit speaking through those whom Christ has appointed to do so, is to be recieved. Period. Meaning, there is no blanket Holy Spirit license, and no amount of studies, that qualify anyone to debate or make claims; and as Paul laid out, anything by any other means is not to be considered true.

As for me, regardless of what you believe, if I do what is written, you can know that I am sent by God, if not, then not. But that does not mean you can take it upon yourself to study or read and act according to your own understanding. That is not what Christ has arranged. Meanwhile, I have given my testimony, my witness, and do the works appointed to me.

you just set this people up to be deceived by so called men in so called authority .
SO part of what you wrote gonna b e corrected asap .
TO all on this thread , my advice IS that all of you get into the bible daily , learn for yourselves
and TEST all men who do speak against that doctrine .
But i do have a question for you scott .
SINCE you did say that we ought not to do so for ourselves ,
Mind if i ask who you sat under to learn the doctrines .

 

[ScottA]

That sounds more like I AM . you sure about that scott .
Now dont get me wrong i know there are true men of God that are in such authority that is given them by GOD
for to
keep the church edified and yes that means corrected as well .
BUT ALL must be tested . ANy man who says otherwise , they a false one indeed .
Of course i never said YOU said you dont need to be t ested . But if you even dare think
that you ought not be tested , You arleady swollen with the pride .
So allow me to go ahead and ask you .
SCOTT do you beleieve we ought to test all things you say .

Yes, indeed. However, there is also among the people of God an unholy spirit of rejection which uses the same word against all that is God, even against Christ who bought them, that go about in the name of God and Christ but are an abomination.

 

[ScottA]

out of curiousity what makes You say YOU have the authority and yet david has no such authority .
I have a real simple saying for us all .
Its known as LET GOD be true but every man a liar .
That indeed all men , EVEN THE TRUE APOSTLES said so , must be tested .
Its true the judgment of men matters not . BUT still all things even I or anyone , including YOU
must be tested . Now if or when your words , or my words , or any m ans words
CONTRADICT THE SCRIPS . Folks better start correcting and fast . that do include me . if i say something
contrary to the holy and sacred scriptures , not only am i saying to correct me , I AM SAYING YE BETTER correct me .
But that goes for you and all others as well.

As the disciples of Christ went out Paul was separated unto the gentiles, whom Peter confirmed as difficult but approved. Unto Paul was given the task of preparing and equipping the church for many generations to come, to the end which Christ foretold as coming as the days of Noah, which was the end of all except those gathered and saved unto a new world beyond the destroying of the old, which is now being manifest in the spiritual gathering of the salvation of Christ Jesus. Paul was appointed to the beginning of this age, and only one was appointed to the end, which he and John foretold. Only one, as he said, "I know a man in Christ", not speaking of the many, but of one, one caught up to the third heaven. I am that one.

Many have authority in Christ, as He appoint His whole church to authority, but each one of their own purpose. But only one is appointed with authority over the finish, which is not his, but His who sent him. Beyond that, many come saying and assuming many things, just as it has always been.

 

[ScottA]

you just set this people up to be deceived by so called men in so called authority .
SO part of what you wrote gonna b e corrected asap .
TO all on this thread , my advice IS that all of you get into the bible daily , learn for yourselves
and TEST all men who do speak against that doctrine .
But i do have a question for you scott .
SINCE you did say that we ought not to do so for ourselves ,
Mind if i ask who you sat under to learn the doctrines .

I sat under the Father, and now sit under the Son, directly, with no other intermediary.

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes, indeed. However, there is also among the people of God an unholy spirit of rejection which uses the same word against all that is God, even against Christ who bought them, that go about in the name of God and Christ but are an abomination.

Oh there is for sure and for certain
an unholy spirit of rejection all right . And it will use scripture to make void even the gospel itself .
As well as many other things . IF you even see the words inclusive and ecumeincal YA BETTER RUN
For it has been doing this very thing for years to prepare the peoples OF ALL religions
as well as christendom to all join hands .
SO allow me some parting words scott . And you and very last one here to include me
better take good heed to them .
Any spirit that even begins to try and plant even the wee tineist amount
of how its even remotely okay if one beleived not on JESUS , cometh only of the dragon and it will grow too .
heard anything like that . And its father sure can use the words of t ruth to allow its leaven to remain and thus to grow .
Judge not God is love . hear that a lot DO YA . anytime one cometh to co rrect the leaven its judge not God is love
that cometh from their lips . then the leaven grows and again come some trying to correct
and its the same judge not God is love that allows to remain and to grow .
SO now a word scott . AND HEED IT well my friend . the all inclusive god so many love , IS THE DEVIL
and you better not heed it once .