Christianity is NOT Derived From Judaism

[David in NJ]

Let’s not hijack this thread.

In today’s devotional reading, I began the book of Romans. The NSRV Cultural Bibles introduction affirms Christianity is derived from Judaism, pointing out chapter 11 tells Gentile Christians to respect Jewish believers and honor their shared heritage. Shared heritage? What’s that all about?

Shared heritage? What’s that all about?

So you don't know?

It is exactly what i said to you = JESUS(came thru the seed of Abraham & David) Said to the Jews "I AM HE"

Where did JESUS get that from???
a.) From Heaven
b.) from the OT Scriptures
c.) Both a & b
d.) none of the above

 

[Rhetro]

Your gaslighting is over the top with all this talk of a sect of Judaism (Rabbinic) AFTER the resurrection and pretending that is the only kind and the kind under discussion.

The antisemitism on display is over the top, denying:

1. Jesus was a Jew, with no evidence he stopped being Jewish, making his ministry derived from Judaism.
2. Jesus is the Jewish Messiah.
3. Jesus quoted the Jewish Holy texts in his ministry, even saying he did not come to abolish those laws, which further shows how is work is derived from Judaism.

“mUh aNtiSemitiSm!!”, straight up leftist emotional response. You didn’t even know what rabbinic Judaism was. You just listen to daddy Trump like a battered housewife, you’re a victim of politics

No one is denying Jesus is the Jewish Messiah who fulfilled the Prophets, we are exposing your massive historical amnesia. You are confusing the ancient, Temple-centered, sacrifice-based Old Covenant faith with modern Rabbinic Judaism, which was built centuries after the Resurrection explicitly via the Talmud to replace the Temple and reject the Cross

 

[Wrangler]

No one is denying Jesus is the Jewish Messiah

How then do you rationalize Christianity not being derived from Judaism?

It’s like acknowledging George Washington is the Father of our country but deny his progeny were derived from Britain and British common law.

we are exposing your massive historical amnesia.

Ad hominem proves you’ve lost the argument.

 

[Rhetro]

Another artificial dichotomy. What would make Christianity a sect of Judaism?

A movement becomes a 'sect' when a minor splinter faction breaks away from an established parent body to form a separate group, which is exactly why the category completely fails when applied to Christianity.

 

[Rhetro]

How then do you rationalize Christianity not being derived from Judaism?

It’s like acknowledging George Washington is the Father of our country but deny his progeny were derived from Britain and British common law.



Ad hominem proves you’ve lost the argument.

Your George Washington analogy completely backfires on you because the United States is NOT a 'derivative subset' or a minor sect of British Common Law, the United States is an entirely independent, sovereign nation that replaced British authority altogether

Not an ad hominem, but an accurate assessment of your theological and English illiteracy.

Maybe it’s time for you to move to Israel where you belong with the wall kissers. You couldn’t address the Talmud, you couldn’t address the burning bush verses, you’re the epitome of cowardice.

 

[Rhetro]

A you don’t think …. “eternal punishment” can be reconciled with ”death is the wages of sin?” Like @Wick Stick, I believe in Annihiliism.



What verse says that? You’ve obviously invested heavily in doctrine that the Bible doesn’t teach.

You’re an open heretic, when the Church clearly condemned Annihilism at the 5th ecumenical council.

You couldn’t even answer which God Moses was talking to through the burning bush. Total coward

 

[Wrangler]

A movement becomes a 'sect' when a minor splinter faction breaks away from an established parent body to form a separate group, which is exactly why the category completely fails when applied to Christianity.

Wrong. It totally applies to Christianity. No religion is more a sect of another than Christianity is to Judaism.

 

[Rhetro]

I’ll be there in spirit brother!

Romans 1:16 it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who has faith, to the Jew first and also for the Greek.

I think our new friends, @Rhetro,etc forgot that with the possible exception of Luke, every book of the Bible was written by the Jews.

Those books were written by faithful Israelites who believed the Prophets and followed Jesus Christ.

You’re the textbook definition of a politically subverted, talk-radio boomer whose entire theological worldview was manufactured on a 20th-century political assembly line. You’re completely blind to church history because your brain has been systematically trained to value partisan tribalism over historic Christianity

 

[Rhetro]

Wrong. It totally applies to Christianity. No religion is more a sect of another than Christianity is to Judaism.

You cannot explain how a fulfillment is a sect of its own foundation

You do know Tel Aviv is the LGBT capital of the Middle East right? You said you stand with Israel on political and religious grounds. Countless rabbis have talked about how gentiles are cattle created for the Jew. You’re the perfect example of one

Your daddy Trump’s daughter Ivanka left Christianity for Judaism. You’re completely lost

 

[Wrangler]

Your George Washington analogy completely backfires on you because the United States is NOT a 'derivative subset' or a minor sect of British Common Law,

Have you ever answered what would be derivative?

 

[Wrangler]

You’re an open heretic, when the Church clearly condemned Annihilism at the 5th ecumenical council.

I'm OK with that. Every sect and denomination s a heretic of all the others.

You couldn’t even answer which God Moses was talking to through the burning bush. Total coward

No. Just not falling for your attempts to hijack this thread. Feel free to start another thread on that topic - they're free - and I'll be sure to ignore it.

 

[Rhetro]

I'm OK with that. Every sect and denomination s a heretic of all the others.



No. Just not falling for your attempts to hijack this thread. Feel free to start another thread on that topic and I'll be sure to ignore it.

You have zero critical thinking skills. Just because every denomination is a heretic according to the others, does NOT mean they are all heretics. By your logic, every religion must be wrong because they’re all a heretic of the others

According to Islam AND Judaism, Christianity is false. Are you ok with that as well?

You deflected to a lame excuse of “hijacking” because you couldn’t answer a basic question about which God Moses was talking to through the burning bush.

You’re not even Christian, you’re a Zionist puppet and a traitor to America, which is why you couldn’t even say you stand with America.

 

[Rhetro]

@Wrangler

This rabbi says you need to be worshipping all Jews, not just Jesus. You said you stand with Israel on political and religious grounds. You got duped

 

[Rhetro]

@Wrangler

You stand with Israel on political and religious grounds right?

 

[Wrangler]

You have zero critical thinking skills.

More Ad Hominem. What a surprise. That's all you got.

You said you stand with Israel on political and religious grounds.

Yes, I stand with Israel on racial, political and religious grounds knowing my faith is derived from their faith.

I don't know or care what that one guy said in the vid you posted. You seem to think the rock of our faith is a wave that is unsteady and changes with every new utterance. Do you acknowledge that every book in the Bible was written by Jews? (Except possibly Luke)

 

[Wrangler]

@Wrangler

You stand with Israel on political and religious grounds right?

Yes. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and the only Jewish State in the world. I don't have to agree with every sect and cultural development to remain a friend of Israel.

I find it revealing how much you project, totally lacking critical thinking skills, constantly confusing the political with the religious.

 

[Rhetro]

More Ad Hominem. What a surprise. That's all you got.


Yes, I stand with Israel on racial, political and religious grounds knowing my faith is derived from their faith.

I don't know or care what that one guy said in the vid you posted. You seem to think the rock of our faith is a wave that is unsteady and changes with every new utterance. Do you acknowledge that every book in the Bible was written by Jews? (Except possibly Luke)

Not an ad hominem, but an accurate assessment. You said you don’t care if you’re an open heretic because every denomination is a heretic of the others. Might as well be Mormon at this point by that dumb logic

Modern Israel has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity, it is not the Israel of the Bible. Moses was already talking to the pre-Incarnate Christ through the bush. You’re Zionist propaganda is kaput

 

[Rhetro]

Yes. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and the only Jewish State in the world. I don't have to agree with every sect and cultural development to remain a friend of Israel.

I find it revealing how much you project, totally lacking critical thinking skills, constantly confusing the political with the religious.

Shouting about 'democracy' is a self-own: a country cannot be a true democracy when it denies voting rights to 5.5 million stateless people living under its permanent military control, has no constitution, and passed a Nation-State Basic Law that restricts self-determination to a single ethnic group. Your 20-year-old Neocon cable-news script completely ignores real-world governance statistics, put the talk-radio down, you are officially out of ammo

You boomers are thinning out, thank God for lifespans

 

[Lambano]

@Wrangler

You stand with Israel on political and religious grounds right?

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Aaaaannnnddd this thread has officially jumped the shark.
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[Rhetro]

Aaaaannnnddd this thread has officially jumped the shark.
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Instead of moving to Israel to be with his wall kissers, he wants to stay in America and have our tax dollars go to Israel while our people die fighting for a country that thinks America would be doomed without. You can’t separate geopolitics from religion, it’s all intertwined.

While the left is openly homosexual and secretly Jewish, the right is in the closet and openly Jewish.