Your hatred of me has been obvious.
You kept the doctrine of man, but I chose to ask God for the deep things of God. 1 Cor. 2:9-10
Question: I don't recall us ever talking about the second coming. Are you pre-trib, post-trib. or pre-wrath?
Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?
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Question: I don't recall us ever talking about the second coming. Are you pre-trib, post-trib. or pre-wrath?
I already answered this same question by you. Did you not understand plain English?
To come to salvation you must be put on the narrow path. Your version is the wide-highway of false-doctrines for itching ears.
"By their beliefs you shall know them?
Not everyone who says to Me Lord Lord shall enter the kingdom of heaven but only those who believe they are forgiven?
Wow, that is the best example of license to sin I've ever heard. Good luck with that!
No its not. Your hatred at times has been so intense, I've put you on ignore for a while to cool off. What is funny is you hate ad hominems against you, but you dish them out to others, including me. Isn't that a bit hypocritical?
Taken
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Seems you stated a precise Time and ONLY Once Saved…
But yet you imply OSAS… is a fallacy.
Why?
Saying someone is wrong without providing any explanation of what you're talking about is worthless.
I think what is hypocritical is to put all this onto me. If you react to my posts with your own anger that's your choice. And if you think you are being hated that does not mean you are. If you actually think that. Personally I question whether you are sincere. I wonder that you are jus offering an alternate reason that I'd write the things I do, other than that I simply believe these things to be true.
I'm not into these "wars of the personalities", you must know that by now. I'm not interested in giving you some personal defense as that would be to go along with your deflections, so enough of that!
The more I post Scriptures which refute your assertions, and the more I point to the inner inconsistencies in your assertions, the more you respond in this way, instead of addressing the issues.
So there it is.
Being forgiven for your sin through Jesus' sacrifice is license to sin? How did you come up with that?Wow, that is the best example of license to sin I've ever heard. Good luck with that!
Your works cannot justify you. So how are you able to be justified? You have no Jesus fulfilling the law of priest and sacrifice in your theology. Your Jesus does not fulfill the law, the thing he says he came to do.
You are by definition an unbeliever. You do not believe in God's lawful requirement for substitutionary blood for expiation (the forgiveness of sin) and for propitiation (the turning away of God's wrath for sin) through Jesus. Good luck with that. Your righteousness is not going to save you on the day of wrath. Your unrighteousness will prevent that. Because it is not forgiven through faith in Christ's blood.
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We know who believes in and has received the forgiveness of God in Christ by how they love."By their beliefs you shall know them?
Luke 7:47
47...her many sins have been forgiven, for she has loved much. But he who has been forgiven little loves little.”
You won't enter the kingdom of heaven if you have not believed in and received Jesus' substitutionary sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin and the turning away of God's wrath. Jesus came to fulfill the law of sacrifice, not cast it down, as your 'gospel' does. There is no fulfillment of the law in your gospel.Not everyone who says to Me Lord Lord shall enter the kingdom of heaven but only those who believe they are forgiven?
There is no High Priest, Jesus, in your gospel. That's how we know that your gospel is false. And by your seething hatred and lack of love for the church, the children of God.
1 John 5:1
1Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father also loves those born of Him.a
Jesus said, those who endure to the end will be saved. What does endure encompass? You see I KNOW what Jesus did when He TOOK AWAY our sin, because I experienced it when it happened to me. The DESIRE to sin was gone, and I even felt a heaviness leave my body. I was no longer a slave to adultery as I had been for over a year, though I tried and tried in my own strength to break things off because of the knowledge that it was wrong in God's eyes, but I was a trapped sinner. Now I simply walk in the Spirit and never let go of His power.
Many in the Church just believe in the blood of Jesus, but all they have is a little knowledge of what to do, and what words to repeat. Taken, its not enough. I did that for 30 years BEFORE Jesus took away my sin. But those sinners just believe the sins they commit and keep on committing are "forgiven," past, present and future! That is a false doctrine. You will not find those three words together in the New Covenant. Only "old sins."
Read these from Judge. Do you believe his doctrine too? He's reformed. I don't yet know what denomination, if any, you belong to. I have no denomination. I have Jesus inside me and His mind. Judge obviously uses his idea of OSAS to keep sinning with immunity. Sick. The words "took away" are not even in his vocabulary.
Actually, I'm not.
Calvinism/Reformed theology is too broad of a label to categorize what I believe. I agree with some of it's beliefs, not all.
You have a different Jesus inside of you. A false Jesus.
Matthew 5:17
17Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.
Your Jesus is false because your Jesus does not fulfill the law of priesthood and sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin and the turning away of God's wrath.
You believe in forgiveness of continual sinning though don't you? That is what you've said, and I believe you. You have no idea what John meant in 1 John 3:5. When Jesus takes away all desire for willful sinning against God's commandments, and fills you with the power of God, that doesn't even register with you does it?
Sounds just like you and I when we were babies growing up in our families long, long ago - little knowledge of what to do, repeating the words of the others. Did our immaturity mean we weren't really part of the the family? No, of course not.
Taken
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Yes… which Applies to those “NON-COMMITTED Believers…”
It does NOT apply to “the Already Sav-ED.”
Keep believing (“by their own power”) until their bodily Death.
And that means Already Sav-ED…
And can never Again “Not Believe”…
Because it IS “the Power OF God”, within a saved man, that Keeps the man Sav-ED…Forever.
Ie OSAS.
Power of man is weak… thus the warning to ENDURE.
The Power of God in a man is Supreme…
Thus once saved, that man can NOT fail.
Sin….IS Against God, not men.
Sin…IS unbelief in God.
Trespasses is men Against men.
Rejecting Once Saved… Always Saved… is simply Rejecting Gods Power in you to Keep you Saved… while trying to Convince me… you believe the power of God in you has kept you Saved, when your own power (beforehand) failed.
Nonsensical.
Jesus's never-ending intercessory ministry and sacrifice before the Father in heaven that I believe and trust in forgives all the sins I commit in my progress toward the image and stature of Jesus. That doesn't even register with you, does it? You seem to have a profound lack of knowledge of the book of Hebrews.
It means the same thing there as it does in the book of Hebrews. The power and stain of sin is removed in the ministry and sacrifice of Christ. That doesn't mean you are unable to sin. It means the power and guilt of sin that could not be removed through the Levitical priesthood and sacrifice is removed in Christ's Priesthood and Sacrifice.
I know what it is to no longer want to sin in the depth of my inner man, but still be tempted by sin in the outer man, the flesh. And I know the power of God to drive temptation away. What I do not know is the believer, like you, who is neither tempted by sin, and who does not sin because they can't sin (according to your definition of 'can't sin'). The believer you describe does not exist in scripture. You are living a delusion.
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