The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

[The Light]

o Jesus noted there will be tribulation (John 16:33).
o Jesus will take up believers before the *great* tribulation (Matthew 24:21).
o Jesus will first descend to a cloud, then take up (Revelation 14:14-16).

The coming of Jesus in Revelation 14 occurs at the 6th seal immediately after the great tribulation and before the 7th seal wrath of God.

When you are reading Revelation 13 and 14 you are back in the 1st 6 seals.

 

[ewq1938]

The coming of Jesus in Revelation 14 occurs at the 6th seal immediately after the great tribulation and before the 7th seal wrath of God.

When you are reading Revelation 13 and 14 you are back in the 1st 6 seals.

Those chapters are in the trumpets not the seals. The trumps are when various prophetic events actually happen while the seals show what is to come.

 

[The Light]

Those c are in the trumpets not the seals. The trumps are when various prophetic events actually happen while the seals show what is to come.

No. The trumpets are over at the 7th trumpet. The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord. Armageddon is over at the 7th trumpet. The mystery of God is over at the 7th trumpet. The wrath of God is over at the 7th trumpet.

The events of the Rev 13 and 14 take place is the 1st six seals..

You don't understand what you are reading and use a sledgehammer to beat everything into place. Just use common sense if you are unable to understand. what is written.

 

[ewq1938]

No. The trumpets are over at the 7th trumpet.

Everyone knows that.

The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord. Armageddon is over at the 7th trumpet. The mystery of God is over at the 7th trumpet. The wrath of God is over at the 7th trumpet.

The bible says it's the start of the wrath not the end.

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Does it say the wrath has ended or has come?

The events of the Rev 13 and 14 take place is the 1st six seals..

Nope.

You don't understand what you are reading and use a sledgehammer to beat everything into place. Just use common sense if you are unable to understand. what is written.

I think you need to heed those words: You don't understand what you are reading and use a sledgehammer to beat everything into place. Just use common sense if you are unable to understand. what is written.