Catholics

[BreadOfLife]

No. If I show/tell you the truth, it will be my terms, not yours. You can ask...nicely.

Translation: "I can't explain it because I don''t know what to say."

Ask "nicely"?? I already DID.
This is how I asked you:
If you disagree with me - then please share YOUR exegesis of these passages - then show me the Early Church support for your position . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

No, He is in charge.. He and The Holy Spirit are one. If The Holy Spirit had truly written the Bible, there would have NEVER been any confusion.Even in the Bible itself it states that :" He is NOT the author of confusion." I think you are the one who needs to read exactly what you wrote here. I met Jesus 6 years before I ever read a Bible, and boy oh boy can that ever get confusing, particularly if we only listen to those who read it, and think they understand. Your last line is quoting Jesus as saying:" I will come to you." Well whether you believe it or not, that is exactly what He did for me, and I am sure He has done likewise to anyone else calling out to Him with all of their heart. He made it abundantly clear that He has no favorites............Pia

Did you actually read what you just wrote??
There is nothing MORE confusing than tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering Protestant sects ALL teaching different doctrines and ALL claiming that this is what was "revealed" to them by God.

Correct - God is NOT the author of confusion - and Protestantism is a shining example of this . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

You may not quite grasp this, but you are actually calling Jesus a liar, as I have ONLY shared what I have HEARD Him say to me. I do not claim to know ANYTHING apart from Him, and I have learned to wait on Him for my answers, we humans simply aren't smart enough to understand the deep things of The Divine. I for one am more than happy not to KNOW something until he makes it clear.

Whatever you claim to have "heard" from Him - can you explain to me how tens of thousands of other humans have "heard" from Him and started their own sects - teaching different doctrines??

A "burning in the bosom" is what the Mormons claim to be the truth.
If what YOU believe to have heard doesn't match what the others claim - WHO is right and WHO is wrong - especially if those beliefs directly conflict with one another as is the case in Protestantism??

 

[BreadOfLife]

Wow, you truly have it bad, don't you. Well neither I or anyone else can help you, only Jesus can, IF you are willing?

Jesus already HAS helped me.
That's how I can tell when you guys are lying . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Look guys - I have asked a few open questions here - and so far, all I've gotten are dodges.
I will ask them again because YOU guys keep bringing them up:

a. Can you define what a "Roman Catholic" is??
b. Can you define what the "RCC" is??
c. Can you show me documented evidence of the Pope "embracing" evolution and "denying" the Creation story - as has been alleged??

You guys are full of accusations and false charges - but you're not big on answers.
I wonder why . . .

 

[aspen]

A. Roman Catholics are Christians who are fully in communion with the Bishop of Rome.

B. The RCC is and acronym for the Roman Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic Church is the largest Christian Church in the world, which is headed up by the Bishop of Rome and consists of all churches in full communion with the Bishop of Rome. Some of the important teachings of the church include the Jesus's life and death and plan for the salvation of humanity, the Primacy of Peter, Transubstatiation, and looks to the Bible and Sacred Tradition as authority for dogma.

C. Quote from Pope Francis: “God is not a demigod or a magician, but the Creator who brought everything to life,” the pope said. “Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.” The pope was addressing the plenary assembly of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, which gathered at the Vatican to discuss “Evolving Concepts of Nature.”

 

[BreadOfLife]

A. Roman Catholics are Christians who are fully in communion with the Bishop of Rome.

WRONG.
Try again . . .

B. The RCC is and acronym for the Roman Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic Church is the largest Christian Church in the world, which is headed up by the Bishop of Rome and consists of all churches in full communion with the Bishop of Rome. Some of the important teachings of the church include the Jesus's life and death and plan for the salvation of humanity, the Primacy of Peter, Transubstatiation, and looks to the Bible and Sacred Tradition as authority for dogma.

I know what the acronym means.
I asked if somebody could define what "Roman Catholic Church" means.

C. Quote from Pope Francis: “God is not a demigod or a magician, but the Creator who brought everything to life,” the pope said. “Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.” The pope was addressing the plenary assembly of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, which gathered at the Vatican to discuss “Evolving Concepts of Nature.”

This was already addressed - and the Pope never rejected the Creation story by "embracing" evolution.
As I explained earlier, human evolution is NOT what was being spoken of but partial evolution of some non-human flora and fauna.

Can somebody show me where the Pope rejected the Creation story by embracing evolution - as michaelvpardo falsely and dishonestly asserted?

 

[mjrhealth]

You can't be that dense mjr.
R*E*A*D my last post:
"No - Jesus isn't a liar and doesn't approve of the either."

In other words - He doesn't approve of YOUR lies.

As I said once before all this is going to bite you in the butt. Cant even talk without shouting everyone down, there was this man called Saul????

 

[mjrhealth]

The Roman Catholic Church is the largest Christian Church in the world

Actually that is a lie, it is the largest church with the most 'catholics" in the world just as the SDA just has the most SDSAs. Beingh in "church" has nothing to do with being in Christ., and many wil find that out when its too late to do anything.

 

[pia]

Did you actually read what you just wrote??
There is nothing MORE confusing than tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering Protestant sects ALL teaching different doctrines and ALL claiming that this is what was "revealed" to them by God.

Correct - God is NOT the author of confusion - and Protestantism is a shining example of this . . .

I am not a protestant, Catholic, Jehovas Witness, mORMON OR sEVENT DAY aDVENTIST, I'm sure there are more, you can insert them yourself.......sorry capitals went on by mistake. As I have mentioned quite a few times, I was a non anything to do with faith or religion when I met Him face to face, and He set me straight.

 

[pia]

Whatever you claim to have "heard" from Him - can you explain to me how tens of thousands of other humans have "heard" from Him and started their own sects - teaching different doctrines??

A "burning in the bosom" is what the Mormons claim to be the truth.
If what YOU believe to have heard doesn't match what the others claim - WHO is right and WHO is wrong - especially if those beliefs directly conflict with one another as is the case in Protestantism??

That's their mistake. I am still to this day gob smacked that He would have even bothered about someone like me. I tried to join in a few different 'churches' after, and left pretty quick each time. I would NEVER presume to start anything, unless specifically asked, and the only thing He has specifically asked me to do, was to go to those the world call ' the dregs ' and invite them as it's time for the last of His invitations to be given out. he covered others by saying:" And yet there are those who need to reacquaint themselves with me, and together with the rest, all must get ready and dressed for the wedding.". Like the rest you can take it or leave it, all up to you yourself. It certainly isn't glamorous in any way, going to some people others would pass on the other side of the road to avoid, and I only ever see them that once. All the rest is up to them and The Lord.

 

[pia]

WRONG.
Try again . . .

I know what the acronym means.
I asked if somebody could define what "Roman Catholic Church" means.

This was already addressed - and the Pope never rejected the Creation story by "embracing" evolution.
As I explained earlier, human evolution is NOT what was being spoken of but partial evolution of some non-human flora and fauna.

Can somebody show me where the Pope rejected the Creation story by embracing evolution - as michaelvpardo falsely and dishonestly asserted?

I just caught onto something. When true worshipers of The Lord in Spirit and in Truth commune, it brings joy, peace and love in abundance. That I HAVE experienced, with a small group of believers a few times, and you know what? These posts do anything, but that. So since it doesn't add to love, it can only take away from love, which makes it like poison to a believer. So I shall not be trying to commune with you again. I sincerely hope for a bright future for you and all the best......Pia

 

[BreadOfLife]

I just caught onto something. When true worshipers of The Lord in Spirit and in Truth commune, it brings joy, peace and love in abundance. That I HAVE experienced, with a small group of believers a few times, and you know what? These posts do anything, but that. So since it doesn't add to love, it can only take away from love, which makes it like poison to a believer. So I shall not be trying to commune with you again. I sincerely hope for a bright future for you and all the best......Pia

Wrong, Pia.
You cannot commune in the Lord while embracing lies. God does not tolerate lies or liars. There is no "joy, peace and love" in lies because Satan himself is the father of lies (John 8:44).

Instead of condemning the person who is pointing out these lies - and proving them to be lies - you should be focusing your attention on condemning the lies and rebuking the liars here. It is nothing but hypocrisy for you to do anything else.

 

[BreadOfLife]

That's their mistake. I am still to this day gob smacked that He would have even bothered about someone like me. I tried to join in a few different 'churches' after, and left pretty quick each time. I would NEVER presume to start anything, unless specifically asked, and the only thing He has specifically asked me to do, was to go to those the world call ' the dregs ' and invite them as it's time for the last of His invitations to be given out. he covered others by saying:" And yet there are those who need to reacquaint themselves with me, and together with the rest, all must get ready and dressed for the wedding.". Like the rest you can take it or leave it, all up to you yourself. It certainly isn't glamorous in any way, going to some people others would pass on the other side of the road to avoid, and I only ever see them that once. All the rest is up to them and The Lord.

Unfortunately, Pia - the Bible does not endorse the "Lone Ranger" Christianity that you are speaking of. In fact - it condemns it (1 Cor. 12:12-31, Heb. 10:25).

I am not a protestant, Catholic, Jehovas Witness, mORMON OR sEVENT DAY aDVENTIST, I'm sure there are more, you can insert them yourself.......sorry capitals went on by mistake. As I have mentioned quite a few times, I was a non anything to do with faith or religion when I met Him face to face, and He set me straight.

You ARE a Protestant by definition, Pia.
However, while MOST Protestants belong to a body of believers - you don't even do that because you have forsaken the assembly (Heb. 10:25).

Jesus built ONE Church - and if you are not a part of His Body, which you admittedly aren't - then you're not part of His Church.
You mat believe in Him - but you're not obeying Him . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

As I said once before all this is going to bite you in the butt. Cant even talk without shouting everyone down, there was this man called Saul????

There is also this guy names Satan, who is the Father of lies (John 8:44).
Unfortunately - YOU have chosen to follow him.

Now THAT'S gonna bite you . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Actually that is a lie, it is the largest church with the most 'catholics" in the world just as the SDA just has the most SDSAs. Beingh in "church" has nothing to do with being in Christ., and many wil find that out when its too late to do anything.

First of all - I will correct Aspen's statement by saying that the Catholic Church is the largest Christian body in the world.
There is only ONE Church - there are not Christian "churches". Jesus only built ONE (Matt. 16:18).

Secondly - you have shown your beliefs to be contrary to His Church - and you have rejected that Church.
I suggest you read very carefully what Jesus says about His Church, because YOU are the "whoever" . . .

Luke 10:16
Whoever listens to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME."

 

[ScottA]

Scott - are you really this dense - or are you just putting on an act so you can hide your lie??
R*E*A*D the second part of the question, which I highlighted for you in RED.

This has been the point all along since michaelvpardo first posted this filthy lie about the Pope.
He said that the Pope denied the Creation story and embraced evolution. You don't get it??

1. I offered a quote you asked for.
2. You denied asking for a "quote."
3. I quoted you asking for a "quote."
4. Still you deny it.
5. Now you change the subject and refer to me as "dense."

Father, In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I pray that you deliver this one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. Amen.

 

[ScottA]

Translation: "I can't explain it because I don''t know what to say."

Ask "nicely"?? I already DID.
This is how I asked you:
If you disagree with me - then please share YOUR exegesis of these passages - then show me the Early Church support for your position . . .

The door of opportunity has been closed.

 

[BreadOfLife]

1. I offered a quote you asked for.
2. You denied asking for a "quote."
3. I quoted you asking for a "quote."
4. Still you deny it.
5. Now you change the subject and refer to me as "dense."

Father, In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I pray that you deliver this one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. Amen.

Nice dodge, Scott.

I DID ask for a quote - but you didn't give me one.
I asked for a quote of the Pope REJECTING the Creation story in FAVOR of Evolution as was alleged.
The quote YOU presented was not only out of context - it didn't show the Pope rejecting the Creation story in favor of evolution.

You're angry because you guys made a ridiculous claim and NONE of you can back it up.
This should be a lesson to ALL of you that lying is NOT the way of the Lord.

PS - I never said that you were "dense". I asked you IF you were.
Truth has become a rare commodity with you anti-Catholics . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

The door of opportunity has been closed.

No - you just have no way of answering the questions.
Just be honest about it.