PTL!!! USA has God's Man for these Last days=President Trump!!!==

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Did people say that about the disciples/apostles ?
as a matter of fact i guess they did, but i am not talking about saying "wrong" to someone who is asking about material things, but rather to someone who has a spiritual position that they believe in, might be a better way to put it. Trying to assimilate

"he who says he knows anything does not yet know as he ought" iow. What is your take on that?

And no, not making a crack lol--i lived for like 30 years as a "Christian" putting myself in the place of God, standing in the Holy of Holies, at least spiritually speaking.
 

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You may be right there, but I have always assumed that the antichrist had to be Israeli, as they are the ones who allow him to take up a position of declaring himself to be God, which is when they realize that he is not the Messiah. If that man was a foreigner to Israel, surely he wouldn't even get one foot in the door with them ? Mind you I am not saying that I am right, but that I had always assumed it, from what I read in the Bible. But, yeah Trump does seem a lot that way, doesn't he?

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For decades I have always seen "the beast" the anti-christ, and all the other things a 'systems", never just "one man"...
The One World system ( elite controllers) fits it well..
Gen 11 “And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name.."

 
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as a matter of fact i guess they did, but i am not talking about saying "wrong" to someone who is asking about material things, but rather to someone who has a spiritual position that they believe in, might be a better way to put it. Trying to assimilate

"he who says he knows anything does not yet know as he ought" iow. What is your take on that?

And no, not making a crack lol--i lived for like 30 years as a "Christian" putting myself in the place of God, standing in the Holy of Holies, at least spiritually speaking.
Sorry, sometimes I'm just not that sure, I didn't mean a bad crack, just a fun one . You are so right, as Jesus showed me and told me more than 30 years ago, that I could virtually take everything I thought I knew and swap it around 180 degrees, so I have had to re learn almost everything I had ever learned, and not surprisingly, the more He has taught me, the more aware I have become of just how little I and people in general actually KNOW....Our intellect, flesh and the worldly teachings we've all been under ( not just churches ) have given us a lot of worldly knowledge, which is useless when it comes to spiritual things from above. No one knows as they ought, but we should be humble enough to be teachable. What's your thought on this?
 
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Hi there
For decades I have always seen "the beast" the anti-christ, and all the other things a 'systems", never just "one man"...
The One World system ( elite controllers) fits it well..
Gen 11 “And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name.."

It is something which we may have to wait to see....I had thought that the world system was the beast. And I'm not joking here, for years I asked the Lord to teach me and show me the truth of the book of Revelation, and EVERY time I did that, He would tell me to go back to the start of Genesis. He has spent at least 10 years ( on and off at various times ) showing me just how much there is to discover in just the first couple of chapters in Genesis, and I must say, I would not have believed it, if it hadn't been Him who showed me. What an amazing amount of truth is told to us from those few pages, and something about, that I wouldn't understand 'the end' unless I first understood 'the beginning'.
 
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ya, the minute you think you are done learning all there is to know on a matter, your mind becomes closed to new information, and you are dead to God imo
For sure. Let us all become pliable in His hands and let Him do the work in us.....:)
 
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all i have ever heard from him is open defiance, and outright rejection of God, several times. "I don't need to apologize to anyone, including God"

"I don't need to apologize to anyone, including God" - Google Search

don't miss the video, 4th link below "more images."
Oh, don't misunderstand me, I am not saying he is good or saved, just nice and respectful and he has surrounded himself with those who love the Lord. In the contrast that I gave between Pharaoh and Joshua both being used by God, he may in fact be more Pharaoh than he is Joshua...but God is close to Him and has placed helpers in his life (which he welcomes). Either way, he is the man for the hour. I am just glad that he's a nice guy and surrounded by Christians.
 
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Oh, don't misunderstand me, I am not saying he is good or saved, just nice and respectful and he has surrounded himself with those who love the Lord. In the contrast that I gave between Pharaoh and Joshua both being used by God, he may in fact be more Pharaoh than he is Joshua...but God is close to Him and has placed helpers in his life (which he welcomes). Either way, he is the man for the hour. I am just glad that he's a nice guy and surrounded by Christians.

Excellent Scott...yes agree... He is pro-family, anti-abortion, and as you say "he has surrounded himself with those who love the Lord"

I think Trump is God's man, even if maybe he is 'God's wreaking ball', which he may well be. In all of our countries the system is corrupt.
It's time for a change of Order...maybe the Order of Melchizedek! :)
 
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Excellent Scott...yes agree... He is pro-family, anti-abortion, and as you say "he has surrounded himself with those who love the Lord"

I think Trump is God's man, even if maybe he is 'God's wreaking ball', which he may well be. In all of our countries the system is corrupt.
It's time for a change of Order...maybe the Order of Melchizedek! :)
Yeah, maybe God's junkyard dog. :)
 
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What does Trump offer the world?

A focus of complaint

Priceless.....
 

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God bless and protect President Trump.
PTL!!! USA has God's Man for these Last days=President Trump!!!==No one will be able to stand against you, for the LORD your God will cause the people to fear and dread you, as he promised, wherever you go in the whole land.
Deuteronomy 11:25
 

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No, God did not anoint Trump to nuke North Korea | Commentary | Dallas News



Also, seems to me that violence and murder and war and all human misery is supposed to spark empathy and unconditional love from Christ's followers, not cheering and bloodlust and calls for the slaughter of end time speculation....
God bless you for having a heart for peace. Your reward shall be great.

But it is not for love of war that many love justice, nor was it unjust or hatred that caused David to stand up to Goliath. No, war is not the first choice of the just, wherein we are even accompanied by God himself who allows Satan, and Christ whom has left us with a sword, even though we do not live by it.

Would we rather Christ came with ten thousands of his angels? Yes. Meanwhile, if God is with him, we will cheer for the least of our brothers if it is His will.
 
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God bless you for having a heart for peace. Your reward shall be great.

But it is not for love of war that many love justice, nor was it unjust or hatred that caused David to stand up to Goliath. No, war is not the first choice of the just, wherein we are even accompanied by God himself who allows Satan, and Christ whom has left us with a sword, even though we do not live by it.

Would we rather Christ came with ten thousands of his angels? Yes. Meanwhile, if God is with him, we will cheer for the least of our brothers if it is His will.

If His will is love and our commandment is to love one another, it would seem to follow that God would be interested in His children's reaction towards his Justice. As for me, I cry mercy for the sinner
 
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God bless and protect President Trump.
PTL!!! USA has God's Man for these Last days=President Trump!!!==No one will be able to stand against you, for the LORD your God will cause the people to fear and dread you, as he promised, wherever you go in the whole land.
Deuteronomy 11:25
my mom does this robotic, mindless, windup-toy stuff too; drives me nuts lol.

meaning it is my problem, not yours, ok, you may certainly engage in worldly affairs and comment upon them all you like
 
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If His will is love and our commandment is to love one another, it would seem to follow that God would be interested in His children's reaction towards his Justice. As for me, I cry mercy for the sinner
"Live by the sword, die by the sword" i guess.

I sure can't find any passages about Christ intentionally striking fear into enemies lol, seems pretty twisted to me
 
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"Live by the sword, die by the sword" i guess.

I sure can't find any passages about Christ intentionally striking fear into enemies lol, seems pretty twisted to me
If His will is love and our commandment is to love one another, it would seem to follow that God would be interested in His children's reaction towards his Justice. As for me, I cry mercy for the sinner
Again, bless you for having your heart in the right place. But what I am trying to explain, is that rather than "It is finished" coming the moment Christ spoke the words...is that He has allotted us this time and this tribulation. Nonetheless, we should make good choices, and know that He is with us until the end.
 
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Again, bless you for having your heart in the right place. But what I am trying to explain, is that rather than "It is finished" coming the moment Christ spoke the words...is that He has allotted us this time and this tribulation. Nonetheless, we should make good choices, and know that He is with us until the end.

I think we are in agreement.
 
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