Why water into wine?

[pia]

And, by the same token - I challenge YOU to find one single verse of Scripture that supports YOU and your anti-Catholic cronies here to LIE. I can't seem to find a shred of Scriptural support for that. If you can produce it - then please present it.

Chapter and verse, please.

PS - People who engage in lying and spewing falsehoods do NOT have the Lord in them.

You first !!!

 

[BreadOfLife]

You first !!!

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[Marymog]

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I know...I'm trying to figure it out also

She wants YOU to find a verse of Scripture that supports YOU and your anti-Catholic cronies????

Confused Mary

 

[pia]

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Wow for such an 'intellectual' ????? You answer my questions first !

 

[BreadOfLife]

Wow for such an 'intellectual' ????? You answer my questions first !

Ummmmm, you never asked one.

I have answered EVERY question thrown at me by every one of you anti-Catholics.
Unfortunately, I seem to have stumped all of you guys because you never seem to be able to answer them . . .

 

[epostle1]

Have you ever wondered why Jesus changed water into wine as His first miracle?

When you think of it, the majority of the people at the wedding didn’t even know he did it. The servants knew and perhaps His disciples did, but certainly the festive crowd didn’t. So what was the reason for that? Why not heel 10 lepers? That would have been spectacular. Or, what about delivering a demonized individual? That could have been more sensational. Better still, Jesus could have raised a dead person. Now that’s what I call dramatic.

Nope, Jesus changed water into wine. Hmm! Is there maybe more to that than meets the eye. Let’s have a look.

When the wine ran out, Jesus told the servant to fill 6 waterpots with water. We are told that these pots were made of stone. In this command we can glean four pieces of information.

The number 6,
The Waterpots, which were made of
Stone, and then
The Water

Numbers in scripture are significant. They are there for a reason. In our story, the number 6 symbolizes MAN who was created on the 6 day. It is also found elsewhere in scripture. Such as in (Revelation 13:18|) when identifying the MAN of sin with 666.

Waterpots = Containers or vessels. These also relate to MAN who often is identified as a vessel. See (1Thess. 4:4, 1Peter 3:7)

Stone – Note that the scriptures do not characterize the waterpots as made of clay which was the most common at the time. These waterpots are specifically made of stone which, for us, should remind us of the heart of MAN, a heart of stone that changes to a heart of flesh at the touch of the Master. (2Cor. 3:3)

Finally, the water signifies the life of MAN as explained by Jesus to Nicodemus. People must be born of water and of Spirit. (John 3:5)

So what we are seeing in this miracle is an allegory of what the ministry of Jesus is all about. He came to transform these vessels of stone and water into vessel of flesh and fill them with the presence of His Spirit, which in this case is depicted as the New Wine. This can be done through Hid death and resurrection which by the way was on the third day. Did you notice, in verse 1, when this wedding celebration occurred?

Yes, He could have He could have healed ten lepers showing His power over sickness and pain, he could have rebuke a demon showing His power over evil and His enemy or He could have raised the dead proving He was greater than death, the destiny of sinners. However, Jesus came for a higher purpose. That purpose was redemption which eventually would cover all kinds of miracles. So He changed water into wine.

The final noteworthy item in this story is the servants conduct. These servants are likened unto us, who in faith and obedience, follow through at the words of Jesus and received the miracle of changed water into wine. However, we are also called to take that new wine of the Spirit and pour it into the lives of others. We are to become the Bordeaux of benevolence, the Merlots of mercy and the Rosées of reconciliation.

The first of Jesus' miracles is to turn water into wine, just as the first miracle of Moses was to turn water into blood, so Jesus turns it into the blood of the grape as it is called in Genesis 49. Here we have, I believe, something that is fraught with all kinds of rich literary and theological symbolism. In John 1, "Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world," says John the Baptist. In John 2, the Lamb goes up to a wedding feast. Now does that sound familiar? A wedding feast where a lamb attends? That's how John is going to climax his book of Revelation, by inviting all of us to the wedding supper of the Lamb. And then along with the wedding banquet of the Lamb, we are also going to be introduced to a Virgin Mother Queen's city, the new Jerusalem, which is both virginally pure but maternally fruitful.
Scott Hahn on the Blessed Virgin Mary | Catholic-Pages.com

 

[pia]

Ummmmm, you never asked one.

I have answered EVERY question thrown at me by every one of you anti-Catholics.
Unfortunately, I seem to have stumped all of you guys because you never seem to be able to answer them . . .

No, I asked you 11 questions I believe.......

 

[BreadOfLife]

No, I asked you 11 questions I believe.......

If you asked me something that I didn't answer, please post it again and I will answer it.
Then, you can answer MY question that you ignored.

 

[pia]

If you asked me something that I didn't answer, please post it again and I will answer it.
Then, you can answer MY question that you ignored.

If I asked you something???? I am certain you are quite capable of scrolling up to have a look at my post to you, thus eliminating the necessity of me having to write it out again, and just so you know.....They are questions, NOT statements to you, as I really would like to understand, and if, IF you do actually give me a proper reply, I shall endevour to do likewise.

 

[BreadOfLife]

If I asked you something???? I am certain you are quite capable of scrolling up to have a look at my post to you, thus eliminating the necessity of me having to write it out again, and just so you know.....They are questions, NOT statements to you, as I really would like to understand, and if, IF you do actually give me a proper reply, I shall endevour to do likewise.

Translation:
"I never ask you anything - but I'm not going to let you humiliate me by proving me wrong publicly."

That's what I thought . . .

 

[Pisteuo]

Translation:
"I never ask you anything - but I'm not going to let you humiliate me by proving me wrong publicly."

That's what I thought . . .

So your goal is to humiliate her? Goodness. I guess that has its rewards.

 

[BreadOfLife]

So your goal is to humiliate her? Goodness. I guess that has its rewards.

No - it's simply a consequence of making false claims.

 

[Pisteuo]

No.

Good.

 

[aspen]

Nobody is fooled by this troll any longer. He is like an insult machine. It's like Don Rickles and Triumph the insult dog had pups....

It's only funny cause it's true

 

[epostle1]

Nobody is fooled by this troll any longer. He is like an insult machine. It's like Don Ricklea and Triumph the insult dog had pups....

It's only funny cause it's true

"TRANSLATION" keeps the meaning of a post and re-words it too show its futility. It's a form of sarcasm or absurdum nauseum. I use it myself sometimes. When my 4 boys were small they would fight and/or argue. It's disturbing for parents. All good Christian families never have arguments and are stress free, dontcha know?
Ad hominums attack the PERSON and is against the rules; its open season on the STATEMENT. I've been in forums where even the moderators can't tell the difference.

 

[pia]

Translation:
"I never ask you anything - but I'm not going to let you humiliate me by proving me wrong publicly."

That's what I thought . . .

Humiliate away Sir, it just goes to prove what I have been trying to point out to you.....So you DO refuse to reply to what I thought were some extremely valid questions to ask of a Christian ? I had actually thought that at least you would try so you could rope me into some scripture debate, guess I was WRONG on that account...See, it's not that hard......I was WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.... Nothing to it !

 

[aspen]

"TRANSLATION" keeps the meaning of a post and re-words it too show its futility. It's a form of sarcasm or absurdum nauseum. I use it myself sometimes. When my 4 boys were small they would fight and/or argue. It's disturbing for parents. All good Christian families never have arguments and are stress free, dontcha know?
Ad hominums attack the PERSON and is against the rules; its open season on the STATEMENT. I've been in forums where even the moderators can't tell the difference.

No rewording here - all original. I am surprised that you can recognize ad hominem, Kepha - you've seem to have overlooked it in every single post by BoL.

 

[bbyrd009]

and you better phrase it just right if you wanna play their game, or they run to report you too lol

 

[aspen]

It is weird how narcissists are so dependent......first to cry victim - first to project victimhood

 

[BreadOfLife]

Humiliate away Sir, it just goes to prove what I have been trying to point out to you.....So you DO refuse to reply to what I thought were some extremely valid questions to ask of a Christian ? I had actually thought that at least you would try so you could rope me into some scripture debate, guess I was WRONG on that account...See, it's not that hard......I was WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.... Nothing to it !

And I have stated that I will answer anything you ask.
Your refusal to present these "previously asked" questions speaks VOLUMES about dishonesty . . .