Jesus is a human being but not the one true God

[GodsGrace]

if you identify with your biological family and do not leave them to become one though (either by marriage or the...less socially accepted route), you will likely love your family in the way that hate your family is addressing.

but this is not for you i guess
you are Italian

You know, TV has kind of made everyone the same.
When I used to come here in the 60's I felt like I was in Italy.
No ketchup.
No potatoe chips.

NOW, I don't know WHAT COUNTRY I'm in!

We mostly leave our family and then start a new one.
But, I know what you mean, it's all messed up.
THIS IS WHY it's important to follow God's rules.
But who cares anymore??

 

[GodsGrace]

ya

i can sure witness that Italians' biological family life reflects those spiritual analogs much better than having family flung all over the country and prolly even the world like we seem to do now

note 4 separate replies to one (long) post here, and see how highlight/reply allows me to effectively break in to your post to reply to a point, which is what you want to do anyway right

Yeah.
BUT ALL IN ONE POST!!!!!
You could write under my paragraph using a different color.

you could use quotes.

It's DOABLE!!

 

[GodsGrace]

i agree, but imo Rhema should first be consumed, without even trying to understand too hard even, just getting it in, and then letting hearing come by Word, iow recognizing IRL when you are watching a verse that you read come to life

The above is how I got saved.
Except for IRL In Real Life
It could also work V V

 

[bbyrd009]

Very few are able to get past that because it creates such doubt.
Everything negative is brought out.
How Genesis is incorrect.
How there are discrepancies.
etc.
The bible is actually ridiculed.

the eye is the lamp of the body

 

[bbyrd009]

I'm Amurrican too!

yes, but Latins are the exceptions to the american family rule there

 

[bbyrd009]

It's DOABLE!!

but it is bypassing the software in a way, when you will often find yourself needing to autoscroll back a previous post or two anyway, to recall the gist. For short posts just hitting reply is fine, but it breaks down for long posts, hence highlight/snip

BUT ALL IN ONE POST!

ya, you can do that too, but it's more of a pain i guess

 

[twinc]

Christ is the one true God that has been seen and heard whereas most people have Gods whose form has not been seen or whose voice has not been and cannot be heard[Jn 5:37 & 6:46] - twinc

 

[bbyrd009]

Christ is the one true God that has been seen and heard whereas most people have Gods whose form has not been seen or whose voice has not been and cannot be heard[Jn 5:37 & 6:46] - twinc

and also God cannot be known, but only known of in a sense, the Unknown God, and the dangers of conflating the Son and the Father are only to well documented. google Jesus Cult

37b...You have never heard his voice nor seen his form
and
46No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God

are at least as much confirmation that God cannot be knowledged by us as recognition of the Office of Messiah

 

[OzSpen]

then wrap that around you like a warm blanket, Oz, if that is what you think, then that is what you are. I find them all in there myself; which doesn't mean yours are invalidated or anything either

If they are ALL in Scripture, then please tell us where they are found. Please refer back to your additions to my post.

Oz

 

[GodsGrace]

the eye is the lamp of the body

You like to say that.
This is a de ja vue.

And I said:
Was it light or was it dark?

 

[amadeus]

"you will not finish going through all the towns before I return"

Hmmm? Now that one has me stumped for the moment. Maybe it will come to me later.

If you mean that I will not die physically before you [bbyrd009]. I cannot say. I am in relative good physical health, but I am closing on 74 which means my time is probably than half way finished.

Then again perhaps I haven't directly responded to your words at all...

 

[pia]

You say that you speak to Jesus and you know all about Him

I will be absolutely fine without you writing to me, as I recall some of your responses from the start till the other day....Now in relation to what I highlighted above from your post, I will literally send you $100 if you can show me ANYWHERE where I have claimed to know everything about Him!!! As a matter of fact I have mentioned many many times, just how little I know, but that there are at least are a couple of things I can say with absolute certainty is the Truth, because I heard it from Him. Why don't you just draw near to hear from Him yourself ?????? There is no monopoly on Him, we all have the same ability to do so and the same Spirit ( if you are Spirit filled?) So you have done a little selective reading and missed the point, now joining the accusers and saying things about me, which is simply not true.
If I had believed that you were actually interested in anything I would have written to you about what Jesus died for to give us, I most certainly would have, but quite a few of your previous posts made me think otherwise.

 

[amadeus]

No, it is you who used the word 'inspiration' to refer to the same inspiration that God used with the writers of Scripture. See your post #410. And I commented on it.

You are wanting now to contrast believers who learn by the Spirit and those who learn through the Scriptures. And of course those who learn by the 'spirit' are so much more 'spiritual'. It is ridiculous. Those who are spiritually mature learn through both the written Word and the Spirit.

Stranger

Your response reminds me of the double-minded mentioned by James. Really everyone is double minded when they come to God, but at the start their carnal portion is expected to be quite heavy. As the inner man increases and the old man decreases, then it is possible to see more of the Living Epistle by those with "eyes to see".

 

[pia]

ha funny you mention that, as His own family sought to have Him committed lo

Hey 'bbyrd'.........I have met a few people like that also....I actually heard of one woman who was so over joyed when she discovered who she was/is in Christ, and no joke, she really was put into a mental institution for a while, because the Judge who agreed ( with her family ) to send her there, termed her as a person with excessive joy !.....I kid you not lol

 

[pia]

course those who learn by the 'spirit' are so much more 'spiritual'. It is ridiculous.

Please don't you start that rubbish as well, it's nonsense ! I will say though, that having discovered that we CAN learn by/through The Holy Spirit or Jesus Himself, it makes one want to help others to seek Him , so they too can be helped to overcome the various differences within various fellowships, who can't seem to agree on much. At least when one gets it through The Holy Spirit, who Jesus sent back to us to do exactly that, they can be completely assured that it is the Truth.
Not all of us are the way you and a couple of others are, toward anyone who have found the Way.
Can't help but wonder what our precious Father thinks about all this, although He must have obviously known from the beginning it was going to go down like this.....
Do you have ANY desire whatsoever to have meaningful fellowship with those who believe? Or are you on this forum to tell all of us why we are either wrong or deluded or whatever else you think? You certainly do your fair share of putting people down, not really an attractive quality for a believer.....

 

[pia]

That's fine.

Stranger

Are you then perhaps able to answer that post I wrote to you about that? Please 'Stranger' can we get past the misunderstandings?

 

[pia]

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That's experientialism.

Oz

Have zero clue what that means. I was not brought up in an English speaking country ( prior to moving to Australia ). could you perhaps elaborate? although i do perceive that the 'tone' of what you wrote is just another 'accusation' or 'attack'....if I am wrong on this, please set me straight.....

 

[pia]

I stay on this site because of the few good, uplifting, and encouraging people who post on the deeper things of God , and aren't here to just pull down and and stomp upon what other people say,

What a great post once again and of course you are totally right.....I too only stay for the same reason you just wrote. It sure is no wonder that Christianity has taken such a 'beating' over the years, and that people run away from those who try to share Christ with them.
I too, as you know, have written how marvelous it would be, if we could come together in unity in The Love of God, as in the Bible Jesus is quoted as saying that us having love for one another and others, was going to be what would convince people that He is REAL.....It hurts deep within my spirit, when people who say they are believers, refuse to believe that Jesus is as able to do what He did back in the days when the disciples were still around, as if He somehow lost His 'touch' which in my opinion is ludicrous .
Great post once again

 

[pia]

With knowledge comes a big ego and with the knowledge you can choose to use it by proving others wrong but no one really cares what you know, except you.

This is not addressed to anyone in particular.

Couldn't agree more.....But once you get to KNOW, there is simply no room for an ego, as the one thing you get to realize super quickly, is that without Him we are nothing, and without Him, we cannot say that we KNOW something, only that we have knowledge of something, and as He showed me, we can take virtually everything we THINK we know, and turn it 180 degrees.......It strikes me a little like those people who think themselves as 'knowing' a movie star or something like that, because of what they have read in the trash magazines...Before you jump down my throat, I am NOT comparing the Bible to trash magazines, merely that following something written about someone, does not make one KNOW them....

 

[ScottA]

Couldn't agree more.....But once you get to KNOW, there is simply no room for an ego, as the one thing you get to realize super quickly, is that without Him we are nothing, and without Him, we cannot say that we KNOW something, only that we have knowledge of something, and as He showed me, we can take virtually everything we THINK we know, and turn it 180 degrees.......It strikes me a little like those people who think themselves as 'knowing' a movie star or something like that, because of what they have read in the trash magazines...Before you jump down my throat, I am NOT comparing the Bible to trash magazines, merely that following something written about someone, does not make one KNOW them....

Sounds like the problem with Brown Belts. Having all the skill they are dangerous. The difference between that and Black Belt is mostly humility.