Jesus and Commands

[101G]

People need to understand, it's your belief in his work that SAVE us, not nothing we did or can do. out of Love for ooe anther we should do these thing to one another, but not for our salvation, but for the LOVE of God and our brethren. if ye love me, Love ye one another as I have loved you. your brother is the you. for you will asked you feed me when I was hungry, clothed me when I was naked.... you asked, WHEN? answer, when you did it to the least of my brethren, you did it unto me.

see, our salvation is not based on works, but hope, or belief in Christ Jesus. well one might say is it not FAITH. well what is FAITH. let's have a look see. Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen". there's your "hope". for faith in salvation is FAITH. understand, Romans 8:24 & 25 "For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it". this is what is meant, "the just must live by faith", and not by works to be save.

hope this helps

 

[bbyrd009]

otoh "many will cry 'Lord, Lord,' and 'Your works will be judged.' "

hope this helps too

 

[KBCid]

Do you understand what laws are for??? And do you know what happens when you break them??? And I assume you know that Jesus died the only one who kept the law perfectly,?? So i assume that you know by trying to keep them you condemn yourself, because simply put, you cant....

yes I know what happens. you sin against God.
Jesus certainly did keep the commandments as the father intended them to be kept.
1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

I do not know that by striving to be perfect I would condemn myself
Matt 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

 

[KBCid]

I wonder how many on these sites even realize that there was no concept as accepting Jesus to be saved as is prevalent today. This idea didn't even exist until recently.
I fear for where we're headed --- a washed-down Christianity no longer recognizable.

Pls. go on with the subject. I would hear more of what is in your mind.

 

[Webers_Home]

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Jesus told the Apostles to teach others the commandments Jesus gave to
the Apostles. I fail to understand how this sentence could be read without
asking... What Commandments?

Click the link below and I'll show you what commandments.

LINK

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[Stranger]

P.S.
I don't understand why you're asking about God keeping the law.
Jesus kept the law perfectly.
God created the law and IS the law.

Yes, Jesus kept the Law as He was under the law and came to fulfill all the law.

Yes, God gave the Law.

But, does God keep the Law?

Stranger

 

[Dcopymope]

Yes, Jesus kept the Law as He was under the law and came to fulfill all the law.

Yes, God gave the Law.

But, does God keep the Law?

Stranger

Yes, because God is the law.

 

[Stranger]

Yes, because God is the law.

How is God the law?

Stranger

 

[mjrhealth]

Do you think Jesus meant to literally be perfect?
How quickly you give up!

Give up, wouldnt be here if I had would I??

Do you think Jesus meant to literally be perfect?

And you are perfect because you did what?? We are perfected by Him and what He has done, it is not our doing, and it is why so many wont be ready for the wedding, as they wont have the garment he has given us to put on in preparation.

How do we practice our right standing with God??

Simple we be ourselves and like the world see what God is doing in us, instead of putting on our plastic pretend faces and trying to to be what we are not.

Our world is full of plasitc people whos faces change to suit the need of the day.

 

[KBCid]

Yes, Jesus kept the Law as He was under the law and came to fulfill all the law.
Yes, God gave the Law. But, does God keep the Law? Stranger

Ok here is your test question;
Show me where it states in the OT that the 10 commandments could be fulfilled. This should be good.

 

[mjrhealth]

The New Covenant provides us with the POWER to keep the commandments to the best of our ability.

Actually is does not, it was given because we are imperfect, we where given His best but still men chose the old, the law and the flesh, which is all about you doing something, that is where the boasting comes in. Can you do better than Him,??? you know that free gift that you are busy tring to earn.... thats the boasting.

 

[mjrhealth]

yes I know what happens. you sin against God.
Jesus certainly did keep the commandments as the father intended them to be kept.
1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

I do not know that by striving to be perfect I would condemn myself
Matt 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

And you know why?? So you would not have too, because simply you cant..

Act_13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Rom_8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

And so you remain in your flesh as so many do.

 

[Dcopymope]

How is God the law?

Stranger

Because he is "the word".

 

[bbyrd009]

Ok here is your test question;
Show me where it states in the OT that the 10 commandments could be fulfilled. This should be good.

1There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job; and that man was blameless, upright, fearing God and turning away from evil.

 

[KBCid]

And you know why?? So you would not have too, because simply you cant...

So which of the 10 commandments are we absolutely unable to keep?

Act_13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Rom_8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: And so you remain in your flesh as so many do.

Which of the 10 commandments were used to justify in the Jews minds? Take care to make sure you know this answer.

 

[KBCid]

1There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job; and that man was blameless, upright, fearing God and turning away from evil.

indeed Job was doing in the OT just as we are told to do in the NT.

Romans 13:8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law.9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

Yet no where in the commandments does it imply that they can be fulfilled by Christ. Only the sacrificial laws were fulfilled in Christ.

So which of these do you feel absolute comfort in not obeying?
“You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”

 

[mjrhealth]

So which of the 10 commandments are we absolutely unable to keep?

Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
Mat 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
Mat 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Most of them you break one you break them all,

Which of the 10 commandments were used to justify in the Jews minds? Take care to make sure you know this answer.

None of them, keeping teh law justified no man, it only condemned them, Guilt is all it produces. What are you going to do, stand before Jesus and say, 'hey look Jesus I am as good as you, I did as you did, perfect". What foolishness.

 

[KBCid]

None of them, keeping teh law justified no man, it only condemned them, Guilt is all it produces. What are you going to do, stand before Jesus and say, 'hey look Jesus I am as good as you, I did as you did, perfect". What foolishness.

Note: you are denying the command to be perfect by asserting it can't be done. Christ showed us it was possible and once a person has the spirit to guide them it gets a lot easier to do but not striving for perfection means you don't desire to be like Christ or the Father.

Keeping the law used to justify the Jews. Do you know which of them they were?

 

[GodsGrace]

Yes, Jesus kept the Law as He was under the law and came to fulfill all the law.

Yes, God gave the Law.

But, does God keep the Law?

Stranger

I agree with @Dcopymope .

The question is wrong.
That's like asking:
Do you keep being human?

Of course we do. We ARE human.
God IS law. You cannot separate God from who He is.
God is moral. God is morality. God is the law.
Asking if He keeps the law is a sign of misunderstanding the nature of God. You can't separate a person from their nature.

 

[mjrhealth]

Note: you are denying the command to be perfect by asserting it can't be done. Christ showed us it was possible and once a person has the spirit to guide them it gets a lot easier to do but not striving for perfection means you don't desire to be like Christ or the Father.

No i am not, it is He that will perfect us, you are trying to perfect your flesh, it cant be done,

Keeping the law used to justify the Jews. Do you know which of them they were?

Well seems i am ignorant... please explain.