Did God Create Evil?

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Who would want to think or say that Almighty God creates evil?? We see who creates evil every day and it is little sin loving men!!
 

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Who would want to think or say that Almighty God creates evil?? We see who creates evil every day and it is little sin loving men!!
Gismys, have you read the very first post in this thread? I wrote it back in 2011. Isa 45:7 isn't the only verse that suggests God created evil.
 
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Gismys, have you read the very first post in this thread? I wrote it back in 2011. Isa 45:7 isn't the only verse that suggests God created evil.

Painful, isnt it? lol

Perhaps we have been here too long FHII.......

Disagreement with my pov is fine; dismissing it without reading it? Ugh
 
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Painful, isnt it? lol

Perhaps we have been here too long FHII.......

Disagreement with my pov is fine; dismissing it without reading it? Ugh
Fully agree. Its not an easy topic. I could actually argue against myself on this one... But I would at least appreciate knowing and a demonstration od acknowledgement that they heard the arguement.
 
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so there's one validation imo, lol

i don't conflate presenting us with a choice with God not being love or all-good though; darkness is separated from light.
So i would have to hear how that analogy is made first.

ha well we are not in a position to judge though--how do you know that we are not just calling neutral bad? What is evil exactly, anyway, iow? Define evil, and its subjective nature will be seen in the definition. Then we can answer "why evil?" and the answer is going to more or less be "because it is you who gets to define 'evil' there, differently than God defines it."
I thought of this post all evening.
Neutral is the bad.
Interesting.
The bad is when God does NOT intervene.
There was darkness first, God made the light.
Let there be light.
Still thinking on it.
Fasting --- Can't do for different reasons. Wish I could.

But wouldn't that make the "bad" the existing force?(or neutral).
And God had to change it. That would go toward dualism...
 

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so there's one validation imo, lol

i don't conflate presenting us with a choice with God not being love or all-good though; darkness is separated from light.
So i would have to hear how that analogy is made first.

ha well we are not in a position to judge though--how do you know that we are not just calling neutral bad? What is evil exactly, anyway, iow? Define evil, and its subjective nature will be seen in the definition. Then we can answer "why evil?" and the answer is going to more or less be "because it is you who gets to define 'evil' there, differently than God defines it."
How does God define evil??

Here's how I understand evil.
There's a real good force, it's called God.
There's a real evil force, it's called satan.
All bad things are caused by the evil force, or by satan.
Everything is infested with evil, us, others, nature.
It exists throughout the entire universe. It's in everything.
We need to know God to diminish the evil in us --- it never leaves us completely -- the sin nature and all that.

That's all I know.
I do know that evil existed BEFORE Eve took that first bite or she never would have. She just put it into our consciousness, as I've heard you say.
 

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"there's a glitch in the system."
Fasting --- Can't do for different reasons. Wish I could.
ha well, you are a mom, right, i'm sure the "denying self" lesson is different for a woman anyway

i'd talk more about people who cannot even fast anymore, but i would just upset people i guess; suffice it to say that there are paths out of diabetes, if one seeks hard enough, the "Stop Pre-Diabetes Now" guy, a couple others.
 
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Neutral is the bad.
Interesting.
ha, not sure how far i would go with that--the point there is maybe that we are told not to be too bad, or too good!
how could someone be "too good?"
The bad is when God does NOT intervene.
or perhaps when you do not intervene, because i'm pretty sure God is not going to intervene; "it is finished."
Or BAM, insert "it is finished" where you like, ok, but
 

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There's no answer in Job 42 or anywhere else...
(at least, I don't find it there)
fwiw you might look for questions in there, and let them guide you, and leave the answers for people who know. For instance in 42, you might ask what Job is rebounding from (repenting of)

“I am angry with you and your two friends, because you have not spoken the truth about me, as my servant Job has."