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Did God Create Evil?

Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by FHII, Dec 3, 2011.

  1. GISMYS_7

    GISMYS_7 Well-Known Member

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    Who would want to think or say that Almighty God creates evil?? We see who creates evil every day and it is little sin loving men!!
     
  2. FHII

    FHII Well-Known Member

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    Gismys, have you read the very first post in this thread? I wrote it back in 2011. Isa 45:7 isn't the only verse that suggests God created evil.
     
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  3. aspen

    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    Painful, isnt it? lol

    Perhaps we have been here too long FHII.......

    Disagreement with my pov is fine; dismissing it without reading it? Ugh
     
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    FHII Well-Known Member

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    Fully agree. Its not an easy topic. I could actually argue against myself on this one... But I would at least appreciate knowing and a demonstration od acknowledgement that they heard the arguement.
     
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  5. GISMYS_7

    GISMYS_7 Well-Known Member

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    LOL!!! Why not make your argument if you have one?? Why waste time??
     
  6. GodsGrace

    GodsGrace Well-Known Member

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    I thought of this post all evening.
    Neutral is the bad.
    Interesting.
    The bad is when God does NOT intervene.
    There was darkness first, God made the light.
    Let there be light.
    Still thinking on it.
    Fasting --- Can't do for different reasons. Wish I could.

    But wouldn't that make the "bad" the existing force?(or neutral).
    And God had to change it. That would go toward dualism...
     
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    How does God define evil??

    Here's how I understand evil.
    There's a real good force, it's called God.
    There's a real evil force, it's called satan.
    All bad things are caused by the evil force, or by satan.
    Everything is infested with evil, us, others, nature.
    It exists throughout the entire universe. It's in everything.
    We need to know God to diminish the evil in us --- it never leaves us completely -- the sin nature and all that.

    That's all I know.
    I do know that evil existed BEFORE Eve took that first bite or she never would have. She just put it into our consciousness, as I've heard you say.
     
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    GodsGrace Well-Known Member

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    There's no answer in Job 42 or anywhere else...
    (at least, I don't find it there)
     
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    GodsGrace Well-Known Member

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    Easily said.
    So where did satan come from?
     
  10. bbyrd009

    bbyrd009 Groper

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    "there's a glitch in the system."
    ha well, you are a mom, right, i'm sure the "denying self" lesson is different for a woman anyway

    i'd talk more about people who cannot even fast anymore, but i would just upset people i guess; suffice it to say that there are paths out of diabetes, if one seeks hard enough, the "Stop Pre-Diabetes Now" guy, a couple others.
     
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    ha, not sure how far i would go with that--the point there is maybe that we are told not to be too bad, or too good!
    how could someone be "too good?"
    or perhaps when you do not intervene, because i'm pretty sure God is not going to intervene; "it is finished."
    Or BAM, insert "it is finished" where you like, ok, but
     
  12. GISMYS_7

    GISMYS_7 Well-Known Member

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    Really!!! you don't know???
     
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    hmm, must have been in another context; i don't perceive the Fall as "evil" anymore, as strange as that prolly sounds.
     
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    well, i know it defines you (one), wherever you put it.
     
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    ha well it is cryptic, sorry, should have quoted it i guess

    6Therefore I despise myself

    and repent in dust and ashes.”
     
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    fwiw you might look for questions in there, and let them guide you, and leave the answers for people who know. For instance in 42, you might ask what Job is rebounding from (repenting of)

    “I am angry with you and your two friends, because you have not spoken the truth about me, as my servant Job has."
     
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