Jun2u
Well-Known Member
Whew!
OK.
These days when two don't agree, one is told to take it up with God.
Problem is that YOU are in the minority.
Mostly all (I said mostly) theologians agree that there is a place called hell -- whatever that may be.
If there is a God, there must be a satan.
If there is a heaven, there must be a hell -- someplace where God is NOT present.
You can't really go by the O.T. since they understood death and hell to be different. As you must know, there's more than one word for hell in Hebrew.
It would be interesting to have your take on Luke 16, the Rich Man and Lazarus...
But never mind.
You said:
These days when two don't agree, one is told to take it up with God.
Problem is that YOU are in the minority.
Really? I guess you have not read about the 450 Baal worshipers against Elijah in 1 King 18:17-46. Sorry, but consensus does NOT make a thing right! But then again, in a sense, I must admit you are correct: for there are more unsaved people in the world than saved.
You said:
Mostly all (I said mostly) theologians agree that there is a place called hell -- whatever that may be.
Theologians are not God. Their commentaries might be a help, but they are not authoritative.
You said:
You can't really go by the O.T. since they understood death and hell to be different. As you must know, there's more than one word for hell in Hebrew.
The Bible is one cohesive whole. It has only one message from Genesis to Revelation! Death and hell may have many different words in Hebrew but the end result is still the same.
You said:
It would be interesting to have your take on Luke 16, the Rich Man and Lazarus...
The story of Lazarus and the Rich Man in Luke 16 is a parable, and therefore, must be discerned spiritually. It is a type or figure, or a shadow of something real to come.
God here is teaching that Lazarus, who represented all believers and who had nothing, was in the highest bliss in the bosom of Abraham, representing God Himself (believers are safe in the arms of God). While in contrast, the rich man who had everything in life, now is in hell.
Remember, the above is a parable. If we want to learn about hell and damnation, and death we have go to another part of the Bible, and Isaiah 16:24 is the best passage to read that describes hell. Hell is a state of condition not a place!
To God Be The Glory