Can you even imagine the huge load guilt and shame ??

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Can you even imagine the huge load guilt and shame ??

I knew a "guy" in HS. he later went to a bible school and married a christian girl they had four kids and he became a church pastor but when he was in his mid 40"s he told his loving wife ,"I want a divorse as I want to live as a homosexual" his wife was devastated the oldest child is in therapy for deep depression the youngest child fired a bullet through the bedroom wall while thinking about suicide, another kid is now huge overweight the other kid is living with her boyfriend and says, "who can I trust"?? not my father who is also my pastor. Lives ruined in shame and guilt all for what??? the sick minded abomination of demon inspired burning lust of sexual perversion.==Sad!! and still the pervert asks Who does my choice to live in sin hurt??? Beware! Those that choose to live in sick minded abomination of sexual perversion will not inherit the kingdom of God!!

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in heir own persons the due penalty of their error.
28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them. Romans :24-32
 
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What’s your point?

What are you, about 12?

You have zero insight into what you are trying to talk about.

Instead of looking to your own business, you are showcasing the one sin you are not tempted by. How cowardly can you get?
 
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The thief knows stealing is wrong and will not deny it. the murderer knows murder is wrong and will not try to deny it but most of those living in the sick minded demon inspired abomination of sexual perversion try to say their sin is not sin!!
Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in heir own persons the due penalty of their error.
28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,
 

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The thief knows stealing is wrong and will not deny it. the murderer knows murder is wrong and will not try to deny it but most of those living in the sick minded demon inspired abomination of sexual perversion try to say their sin is not sin!!
Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in heir own persons the due penalty of their error.
28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,

Then straight people must be more holy by design..........good thing you are around to molest the goats on their way to hell
 

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The poor choice to live in the sick minded abomination of sexual perversion is a demon inspired choice and no one can try to blame God for the results of their very poor choice!
 

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The poor choice to live in the sick minded abomination of sexual perversion is a demon inspired choice and no one can try to blame God for the results of their very poor choice!

Do you know any homosexuals on the planet, who do not know that most conservative Christian people believe they are damned?

I don’t

So why not focus your judgment on sin that affects all of us, like lying? The President’s consistent lying affects more people than any homosexual person trying to live out an imperfect existence, just like the rest of us.

Open your eyes for a second and realize the only two reasons you are able to perceive personal sin in others is to increase your own empathy and root out your own sin within yourself. Your judgment towards others is a misuse of empathy and therefore a sin - stop inhibiting your spiritual growth!
 
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Who cares what little men think ??? Almighty God's Word says==


1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (NKJV)

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,a nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
 

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Who cares what little men think ??? Almighty God's Word says==

There’s that love for neighbor, masquerading as love for doctrine at the expense of people......

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (NKJV)

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,a nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

Yes, humanity is destined for Hell. Thankfully, Christ died for the unrighteous - mark 2:17
 
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Yes, much of humanity is destined for Hell. Thankfully, Christ died for the unrighteous who will choose to believe, confess and repent and accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior!- mark 2:17

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (NKJV)

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,a nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
 

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What is your point?
 

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1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (NKJV)

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,a nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

MY point is the sick minded person living in the abomination of sexual perversion can choose to believe God's Word , confess, repent and accept Jesus as his Lord and Savior and be washed clean, sanctified, forgiven.
 

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That is all most unfortunate. I by no means wish that on anyone, and yes.... Homosexuality is a sin.

Here's the problem: there are homosexuals in my Church that have problems, but not like that. They have human problems like you and I do. Some of them have wacky problems... And some of them have their life together pretty tightly.

But they all have one thing in common: they love the Lord and they love the brethren.

Their homosexuality is covered by grace. Its a sin of the flesh, not of the spirit.

What you have done is pulled up one terrible incident. What happens when a homosexual couple succeeds and a heterosexual couple fails? Would you have the same outrage?

James, Paul and Jesus all agree on one thing, if not many.... If you are guilty of one point of the law, thenyou are guilty as a lawbreaker. Whether you eat shrimp or are a homosexual.

You have documented a terroble situation, and its true... The sin led to such trageties. But what will you say when homosexuality isn't to blame?
 

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Real believers believe God's Word and God's Word says==Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,a nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
 

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That is all most unfortunate. I by no means wish that on anyone, and yes.... Homosexuality is a sin.

Here's the problem: there are homosexuals in my Church that have problems, but not like that. They have human problems like you and I do. Some of them have wacky problems... And some of them have their life together pretty tightly.

But they all have one thing in common: they love the Lord and they love the brethren.

Their homosexuality is covered by grace. Its a sin of the flesh, not of the spirit.

What you have done is pulled up one terrible incident. What happens when a homosexual couple succeeds and a heterosexual couple fails? Would you have the same outrage?

James, Paul and Jesus all agree on one thing, if not many.... If you are guilty of one point of the law, thenyou are guilty as a lawbreaker. Whether you eat shrimp or are a homosexual.

You have documented a terroble situation, and its true... The sin led to such trageties. But what will you say when homosexuality isn't to blame?

Wow...what an excellent post. It blessed me... ✟
 
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That was definitely one of your better posts FHII and you posted quite a bit of insightful things lately
 
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@FHII Impressed. What most christians seem to over look, is that we are living in a fallen world, We have all kinds of sickness and disease, cancer. heart conditions, in my family is is hereditary, my dad has cronic heart failure, my younger brother , 5 years younger is up for heart bypass, no fault of his own, we have co joined twins children born without limbs, lung disease, and all sorts of hormone issues in both men and woman, is it any of there fault, are the guilty of sin because they are sick?? Bit like this

Joh 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
Joh 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

So easy for those who are born normal to condemn those who are not, that thing about the log in ones eye. When we are as Christ is, than we will be able to judge, because our judgement will be from God not our own pathetic reasoning.

Untill one can look at a man and know why he is the way he is, by Gods spirit, he has no right to judge.

Joh 8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
Joh 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

Joh 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

Luk 12:57 Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?
 
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That is all most unfortunate. I by no means wish that on anyone, and yes.... Homosexuality is a sin.

Here's the problem: there are homosexuals in my Church that have problems, but not like that. They have human problems like you and I do. Some of them have wacky problems... And some of them have their life together pretty tightly.

But they all have one thing in common: they love the Lord and they love the brethren.

Their homosexuality is covered by grace. Its a sin of the flesh, not of the spirit.

What you have done is pulled up one terrible incident. What happens when a homosexual couple succeeds and a heterosexual couple fails? Would you have the same outrage?

James, Paul and Jesus all agree on one thing, if not many.... If you are guilty of one point of the law, thenyou are guilty as a lawbreaker. Whether you eat shrimp or are a homosexual.

You have documented a terroble situation, and its true... The sin led to such trageties. But what will you say when homosexuality isn't to blame?

The problem with the homosexuals in your church is that they are homosexuals. A bigger problem is your church allowing homosexuals to be part of your body and maintaining their homosexuality. Just because we are all sinners does not mean you allow those who practice a perverted lifestyle, a lifestyle totally opposed to God, to be accepted in the church. The root of homosexuality is knowing the truth of God yet rejecting that truth and God, and God thus turns them over to homosexuality. (Rom. 1:19-32)

If a man and wife join your church and you find out later that she is a whore and the husband sells her as a whore to make money, what do you do? During the week she prostitutes herself out and then on Sunday they come to church. Neither believe that what they do is wrong. It is just an old profession. And they make good money as she is a beautiful women, so now is the time to make it. Should they be allowed to partake of the Lords Supper? Should they be allowed to serve in any way in the Church?

How could you in light of these verses? (1 Cor. 5:1) (1Cor. 5:3-5) (1 Cor. 5:9-13)

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The problem with the homosexuals in your church is that they are homosexuals.
And you know how they are the way they are ?? How??? we see christians calling themselves christians but they show no evidence of it. Liars adulterers just like the rest of the world, but dont you dare me a homosexual, because christians will condemn you. God forbid we remove all the sinners from teh church, there would be no one in them. Oh but we are not like all these other sinners, no because you are worse because you should know better to judge any man, as Jesus put it,

Joh 8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
Joh 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

I wonder if you can look at there biology and see if there genes are perfect like yours. Its nice being perfect, gives you allowance to convict those that are not.
 
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And you know how they are the way they are ?? How??? we see christians calling themselves christians but they show no evidence of it. Liars adulterers just like the rest of the world, but dont you dare me a homosexual, because christians will condemn you. God forbid we remove all the sinners from teh church, there would be no one in them. Oh but we are not like all these other sinners, no because you are worse because you should know better to judge any man, as Jesus put it,

Joh 8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
Joh 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

I wonder if you can look at there biology and see if there genes are perfect like yours. Its nice being perfect, gives you allowance to convict those that are not.

Why do you ask me stupid questions when I gave the verses that address what you are asking? Oh, that's right, the Scriptures are only for your use. They only are beneficial if you use them. Oxymoronic.

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Why do you ask me stupid questions when I gave the verses that address what you are asking? Oh, that's right, the Scriptures are only for your use. They only are beneficial if you use them. Oxymoronic.

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Hmm maybe you really need to get to Know Jesus instead of getting to know the bible. You will find HE isnt the Bstd that so many make Him out to be.
 
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