Dcopymope
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= allowing/permitting/cooperating more so than assisting = be it done unto me according to thy word - imho - we are called to do likewise - twinc
Well since you put it this way, I can give an analogy about our place in the order of things. In an airplane, you have the captain, the first officer, and the flight attendants. Lets say the Father is the captain, and Jesus Christ is the first officer, or second in command. As a flight attendant, or an assistant, as you call it, are you equal with the captain and first officer, or does the captain and F.O have full authority over the crew? If its the former, then yes, we are co-redeemers, but if it is the latter, then we sure as hell are not, and are in fact Gods assistants in the mission of "making disciples of many nations". Think hard on this, because to call yourself "co-redeemer" makes you equal with the captain and F.O, or with Jesus Christ and the Father. Are you equal with Jesus Christ? How about the Holy Spirit, are you equal with it?
well I'm glad that's opinion, because Lazarus must have agreed with him to raise him, I guess it was his, Lazarus, faith in cooperation with the Lord Jesus, as well as Jairus daughter, and the Nain widow son.
Peace in Christ Yeshua.
These are all cases of resurrections, which is not surprising being that God has the power over life and death. But what about other feats such as the exercising of a demon? In this scripture for instance, why did Jesus Christ even bother asking the sons father if he believed before he exercised the demon if no faith was required on his or the sons part? Are all things possible with faith or without faith? Jesus Christ clearly states the former to be the case.
(Mark 9:20-27) "And they brought him unto him: and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tare him; and he fell on the ground, and wallowed foaming. {21} And he asked his father, How long is it ago since this came unto him? And he said, Of a child. {22} And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us. {23} Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth. {24} And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief. {25} When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him. {26} And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead. {27} But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose."
As for Jairus, he clearly believed seeing he begged Jesus to heal his daughter, which would be sufficient enough in of itself to Jesus Christ as was also clearly the case here with the boys father.
(Mark 5:21-23) "And when Jesus was passed over again by ship unto the other side, much people gathered unto him: and he was nigh unto the sea. {22} And, behold, there cometh one of the rulers of the synagogue, Jairus by name; and when he saw him, he fell at his feet, {23} And besought him greatly, saying, My little daughter lieth at the point of death: I pray thee, come and lay thy hands on her, that she may be healed; and she shall live............
(Mark 5:35-36) "While he yet spake, there came from the ruler of the synagogue’s house certain which said, Thy daughter is dead: why troublest thou the Master any further? {36} As soon as Jesus heard the word that was spoken, he saith unto the ruler of the synagogue, Be not afraid, only believe."
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