Co- Redemptrix

[bbyrd009]

Sometimes i do wish you would speak english....

sorry, i am invoking works meet for repentance there, a virtual litmus test for salvation, if confession is made unto salvation, yes? Works meet for rebound (repentance) is a recognized standard. Of course now it is interpreted as a religious thing, but really it is just an acknowledgement that confession and rebound ("i'm sorry, my fault, i was wrong, what can i do to make it right") = salvation, not any religious worshipping or ritual posturing
works meet for repentance

 

[BreadOfLife]

Amen

good luck with it BOL .. really I seriously do mean it... Saul though he knew Jesus church, boy was he wrong...

No, he wasn't.
What Bible are YOU reading??

Saul knew exactly who the Church was - and he persecuted it.
What he didn't know was that the Church was Christ Himself.

That's YOUR folly as well.
aggressivechristianity.net is NOT Christ's Church, son. It's an online cult that was hatched in 1980 - and YOU are one of its adherents.

 

[michaelvpardo]

And if you reject His Church - you reject HIM (Luke 10:16).

In Acts 9:4-5, Jesus equates his Body – the Church - with his very self:

He fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?" He said, "Who are you, sir?" The reply came, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting.

Notice that Jesus DOESN’T say, “Why are you persecuting the Church?” (which is EXACTLY what Paul was doing). Jesus chose to equate His Church with Himself.

So, whine all you want about "bad hermeneutics" and "nonsense" - but you're only arguing with the LORD - not me . . .

You keep quoting Luke 10:16 which has nothing to do with the church. The church didn't even exist prior to the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Stop pretending and stop telling lies.

 

[Marymog]

You keep quoting Luke 10:16 which has nothing to do with the church. The church didn't even exist prior to the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Stop pretending and stop telling lies.

Hi Mr. Pardo,

If you don't mind...I want to get you opinion on my thoughts on Luke 10.

Luke 10 talks about Jesus sending out the 72 to preach and when they did the demons submitted to THEM in HIS name.

Who were the 72? Were they not The Church? Are not people who preach and teach His word, converting people to Him and driving out demons in His name The Church? Jesus even told them "your names are written in heaven.”? Wouldn't that make them The Church?

If THEY weren't the Church then what were they? What does that make us????

IHS....Mary

 

[mjrhealth]

That's YOUR folly as well.
aggressivechristianity.net is NOT Christ's Church, son. It's an online cult that was hatched in 1980 - and YOU are one of its adherents.

Christ is not a religion, nor a website, why do you have so great a difficulty with Him.....

Joh_7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

and so is religion...

 

[michaelvpardo]

Hi Mr. Pardo,

If you don't mind...I want to get you opinion on my thoughts on Luke 10.

Luke 10 talks about Jesus sending out the 72 to preach and when they did the demons submitted to THEM in HIS name.

Who were the 72? Were they not The Church? Are not people who preach and teach His word, converting people to Him and driving out demons in His name The Church? Jesus even told them "your names are written in heaven.”? Wouldn't that make them The Church?

If THEY weren't the Church then what were they? What does that make us????

IHS....Mary

They couldn't be the church, because the church didn't exist until after the resurrection. Its like theology 101. If you read the Old Testament, you'll find examples of other saints that also were empowered by the Holy Spirit to do wonders and signs. That doesn't make them part of what theologians acknowledge as the church or those under the great commission. e.g. Samson, Elijah, and Elisha. Bread of Lies just uses an impoverished and corrupted hermeneutic when he (and I mean he) interprets scripture.

 

[Marymog]

They couldn't be the church, because the church didn't exist until after the resurrection. Its like theology 101. If you read the Old Testament, you'll find examples of other saints that also were empowered by the Holy Spirit to do wonders and signs. That doesn't make them part of what theologians acknowledge as the church or those under the great commission. e.g. Samson, Elijah, and Elisha. Bread of Lies just uses an impoverished and corrupted hermeneutic when he (and I mean he) interprets scripture.

Thank you Mr. Pardo,

I understand what you believe and why you believe it. You have articulated it well.

However, I want to know if THEY weren't the Church then what were they?

Or maybe to put it better: The aforementioned 72 were what BEFORE the resurrection? Saints?

Respectfully, Mary

 

[twinc]

sorry, i am invoking works meet for repentance there, a virtual litmus test for salvation, if confession is made unto salvation, yes? Works meet for rebound (repentance) is a recognized standard. Of course now it is interpreted as a religious thing, but really it is just an acknowledgement that confession and rebound ("i'm sorry, my fault, i was wrong, what can i do to make it right") = salvation, not any religious worshipping or ritual posturing
works meet for repentance

no, no, no = do nothing = it is done/it is finished = be a Mary and not a Martha - twinc

 

[BreadOfLife]

You keep quoting Luke 10:16 which has nothing to do with the church. The church didn't even exist prior to the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Stop pretending and stop telling lies.

Time for another Bible lesson . . .

The "Seventy-two" that Jesus sent out in Luke 10:16 are listed in Church history as Bishops of the Early Church by the historian Hippolytus. Among them is Ananias, Bishop of Damascus, who baptized Paul in Acts 9.

Here's a little hermeneutical rule you might want to make a note of:
- When Jesus instructed His inner circle - he was instructing the leaders of His Church.
- When He instructed the crowds - He was teaching ALL of us.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Christ is not a religion, nor a website, why do you have so great a difficulty with Him.....

Joh_7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.
and so is religion...

That's NOT what the Bible says:

James 1:27
RELIGION that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Keep studying. You'll get there . . .

And if Christ is not a website - why do YOU adhere to the online teachings of your little cult over at aggressivechristianity.net??

 

[bbyrd009]

thréskeia: religion
Original Word: θρησκεία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: thréskeia
Phonetic Spelling: (thrace-ki'-ah)
Short Definition: ritual worship, religion
Definition: (underlying sense: reverence or worship of the gods)

yup, seems legit alright

no, no, no = do nothing = it is done/it is finished = be a Mary and not a Martha - twinc

c'mon tc, you gotta be kidding me there right?
"it is finished" means "works meet for repentance" is nullified?

 

[mjrhealth]

That's NOT what the Bible says:

James 1:27
RELIGION that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Keep studying. You'll get there . . .

And if Christ is not a website - why do YOU adhere to the online teachings of your little cult over at aggressivechristianity.net??

Just like Saul a man fill of knowledge yet no wisdom and knows nothing about the things of God, a pharisee of pharisees he said he was till he found Christ...

 

[twinc]

thréskeia: religion
Original Word: θρησκεία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: thréskeia
Phonetic Spelling: (thrace-ki'-ah)
Short Definition: ritual worship, religion
Definition: (underlying sense: reverence or worship of the gods)

yup, seems legit alright
c'mon tc, you gotta be kidding me there right?
"it is finished" means "works meet for repentance" is nullified?

 

[twinc]

no, no, no - it is finished means it is finished imho - twinc

 

[bbyrd009]

no, no, no - it is finished means it is finished imho - twinc

then why were you apparently disputing works meet for repentance back there, again? sorry, not getting you i guess

 

[BreadOfLife]

Just like Saul a man fill of knowledge yet no wisdom and knows nothing about the things of God, a pharisee of pharisees he said he was till he found Christ...

YOU keep following your little "generals" over at your online cult, aggressivechristianity.net:

As for me and my house - we will follow the Lord (Josh. 24:15) . . .

 

[bbyrd009]

 

[twinc]

 

[twinc]

why depict them as wolves in wolves clothing and not as angels of light who destroy the body and the soul - twinc

 

[mjrhealth]

sorry, i am invoking works meet for repentance there, a virtual litmus test for salvation, if confession is made unto salvation, yes? Works meet for rebound (repentance) is a recognized standard. Of course now it is interpreted as a religious thing, but really it is just an acknowledgement that confession and rebound ("i'm sorry, my fault, i was wrong, what can i do to make it right") = salvation, not any religious worshipping or ritual posturing
works meet for repentance

Hmm humour4 now. this lot musnt of though it so funny..

Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

but go, do your own thing, most of christianity does just that.