"Christians" Attacking and Slandering Christians What is more Pathetic??

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Triumph1300

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Is this the friendly thread?

Things always turn very friendly when Marymog shows up.
Usually on thursday and friday.
 
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Is this the friendly thread?
Well, sadly I have come to realize that *Stranger* probably, and possibly quite honestly, would not understand listening to and hearing, what a person doesn't say.... as opposed to only hearing the words they use to hide their true emotions.
 
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Well, sadly I have come to realize that *Stranger* probably, and possibly quite honestly, would not understand listening to and hearing, what a person doesn't say.... as opposed to only hearing the words they use to hide their true emotions.

Hang on. It is pretty deep. Takes awhile. Don't want to get any on the clutch pedal.

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I'll actually take that as a reasonable and serious answer. Did you mean it to be? Were you actually trying to understand something?

There wasn't much there to understand. Which is why my boots are so soiled. Just so much ...you know. I can't say it...your friend iforest and aspen gets offended and deletes my posts.

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There wasn't much there to understand. Which is why my boots are so soiled. Just so much ...you know. I can't say it...your friend iforest and aspen gets offended and deletes my posts.

Stranger

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You are talking about a baby moving in the womb. Muscles being moved.

I am talking about life; when the soul enters the body. (God) breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and it was then that the man became a living being." "The spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life."

Can you not see how you are totally off base???

Who gave you authority over me to suggest I have to repent??? Repent for what??? Because I don't accept YOUR INTERPETATION of Scripture?What happens to me if I don't repent???


The Holy Spirit guides me when I read scripture. Who guides you??

Mary


I'll bite. :)

Hi Mary,

I am not going to judge you. I see you have a point. But let's look at this from a different perspective.

Does a fetus have a heartbeat? Yes.

Is a fetus alive? Yes

Has it drawn breath yet? No.

I liken this to spiritual life. A person who is regenerated by the Spirit is alive spiritually...yet perhaps still walks in the darkness of the flesh. Paul says we should "put on Christ"....and this to converted believers.

Is a person who is made alive in Christ yet has not yet put on Christ still a Christian?

I believe the answer is yes!

So then it comes down to how hard we want to judge something.

Is a person who is not yet baptized in the Spirit still a Christian?

I say yes! We can be carnal Christians who have not yet come into the full light of the provision of Christ which is the fulness of grace. We are to increase in grace. Does that mean a person that is not increased in grace is not in life at all? Of course not. A fully dead person has no chance for more grace.

So a fetus has no more chance for more life if it (he or she) is aborted. Therefore the unborn are ALIVE. Just as a person who is born again (yet not yet walking in the kingdom life) is spiritually alive.

I'm bringing this issue back to it's spiritual side because..well...I just can't help always relating everything to spiritual life! :)
 

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Have you ever been bitter about someone or something? Bitterness blows out the candle of joy and leaves the soul in darkness, keeping the people of God from having the power and holiness of God needed in their hearts and lives.
ADMIT YOUR SIN: Sin separates us from God. The Bible says, "All have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." (Romans
3:23
) The only way back to God is through His Son, Jesus Christ.

ABANDON SELF-EFFORT: If we could save ourselves, Jesus didn't have to die! Salvation is by God's grace alone. "For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is a gift of God; not of works, lest any man should boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9)

ACKNOWLEDGE CHRIST'S PAYMENT: Jesus Christ, the Son of God, died for your sins. "But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5:8) Jesus died in your place and your sin debt has been paid for by, "The blood of Jesus Christ." (1John 1:7)

ACCEPT CHRIST AS SAVIOR: Put your faith in Jesus Christ and Him alone for your salvation. Receive Him by faith. The Bible says, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved." (Acts
16:31
) Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father but by Me." (John 14:6)

OFFER THIS PRAY TO GOD TODAY: Heavenly Father, I'm a sinner, I'm lost and I need to be saved. I know I can't save myself. I trust You to save me. Come into heart, forgive my sin and save me. I give you my life, I don't look for a sign or ask for a feeling; I trust only in You to save me. Begin now to make me the person You want me to be. Help me never to be ashamed of You. Thank You for saving me, Jesus. In Your name I pray, Amen.
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