I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

[brakelite]

Excerpt from The Great Controversy Ellen White 1888
The papal church will never relinquish her claim to infallibility. All that she has done in her persecution of those who reject her dogmas she holds to be right; and would she not repeat the same acts, should the opportunity be presented? Let the restraints now imposed by secular governments be removed and Rome be reinstated in her former power, and there would speedily be a revival of her tyranny and persecution.
A well-known writer speaks thus of the attitude of the papal hierarchy as regards freedom of conscience, and of the perils which especially threaten the United States from the success of her policy:
“There are many who are disposed to attribute any fear of Roman Catholicism in the United States to bigotry or childishness. Such see nothing in the character and attitude of Romanism that is hostile to our free institutions, or find nothing portentous in its growth. Let us, then, first compare some of the fundamental principles of our government with those of the Catholic Church.
“The Constitution of the United States guarantees liberty of conscience. Nothing is dearer or more fundamental. Pope Pius IX, in his Encyclical Letter of August 15, 1854, said: `The absurd and erroneous doctrines or ravings in defense of liberty of conscience are a most pestilential error—a pest, of all others, most to be dreaded in a state.’ The same pope, in his Encyclical Letter of December 8, 1864, anathematized `those who assert the liberty of conscience and of religious worship,’ also ‘all such as maintain that the church may not employ force.’
“The pacific tone of Rome in the United States does not imply a change of heart. She is tolerant where she is helpless. Says Bishop O'Connor: ‘Religious liberty is merely endured until the opposite can be carried into effect without peril to the Catholic world.’... The archbishop of St. Louis once said: ‘Heresy and unbelief are crimes; and in Christian countries, as in Italy and Spain, for instance, where all the people are Catholics, and where the Catholic religion is an essential part of the law of the land, they are punished as other crimes.’...
The correct reference for the first citation is Pope Gregory XVI's encyclical letter of August 15, 1832. The relevant paragraph is here quoted in full:
Liberty of Conscience
“This shameful font of indifferentism gives rise to that absurd and erroneous proposition which claims that liberty of conscience must be maintained for everyone. It spreads ruin in sacred and civil affairs, though some repeat over and over again with the greatest impudence that some advantage accrues to religion from it. ‘But the death of the soul is worse than freedom of error,’ as Augustine was wont to say. When all restraints are removed by which men are kept on the narrow path of truth, their nature, which is already inclined to evil, propels them to ruin. Then truly ‘the bottomless pit’ is opened from which John saw smoke ascending which obscured the sun, and out of which locusts flew forth to devastate the earth. Thence comes transformation of minds, corruption of youths, contempt of sacred things and holy laws—in other words, a pestilence more deadly to the state than any other. Experience shows, even from earliest times, that cities renowned for wealth, dominion, and glory perished as a result of this single evil, namely immoderate freedom of opinion, license of free speech, and desire for novelty.”—As printed in Claudia Carlen, IHM, The Papal Encyclicals, 1740-1878 (Ann Arbor, Michigan: The Pierian Press, 1990) 1:238.
The second citation should be credited to Pope Pius IX's Syllabus of Errors, which accompanied his encyclical letter of December 8, 1864. Included among the 80 errors anathematized are:
“24. The church has not the power of using force, nor has she any temporal power, direct or indirect.—Apostolic Letter ‘Ad Apostolicae,’ August 22, 1851.”
“78. Hence it has been wisely decided by law, in some Catholic countries, that persons coming to reside therein shall enjoy the public exercise of their own peculiar worship.
—Allocution ‘acerbissimum,’ September 27, 1852.
“79. Moreover, it is false that the civil liberty of every form of worship, and the full power, given to all, of overtly and publicly manifesting any opinions whatsoever and thoughts, conduce more easily to corrupt the morals and minds of the people, and to propagate the pest of indifferentism.—Allocution ‘Nunquam Fore,’ December 15, 1856.”—As printed in Anne Fremantle, ed., The Papal Encyclicals in their Historical Context (New York: G. P. Putnam's Sons, 1956), 146, 152.

 

[brakelite]

Does anyone here prep?

Yes, absolutely. Remember the story of Hezekiah in the OT? Surrounded by the Assyrians yet survived. We know what happened, but do you know how Hezekiah prepared?
2 Chronicles 29:1-3 ¶ Hezekiah began to reign when he was five and twenty years old, and he reigned nine and twenty years in Jerusalem. And his mother’s name was Abijah, the daughter of Zechariah. And he did that which was right in the sight of the LORD, according to all that David his father had done. He in the first year of his reign, in the first month, opened the doors of the house of the LORD, and repaired them.....17 Now they began on the first day of the first month to sanctify, and on the eighth day of the month came they to the porch of the LORD: so they sanctified the house of the LORD in eight days; and in the sixteenth day of the first month they made an end.
So how did Hezekiah do this? What did this entail?

2 Kings 18:1-7 ¶ Now it came to pass in the third year of Hoshea son of Elah king of Israel, that Hezekiah the son of Ahaz king of Judah began to reign. Twenty and five years old was he when he began to reign; and he reigned twenty and nine years in Jerusalem. His mother’s name also was Abi, the daughter of Zachariah. And he did that which was right in the sight of the LORD, according to all that David his father did. He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan. He trusted in the LORD God of Israel; so that after him was none like him among all the kings of Judah, nor any that were before him. For he clave to the LORD, and departed not from following him, but kept his commandments, which the LORD commanded Moses. And the LORD was with him; and he prospered whithersoever he went forth: and he rebelled against the king of Assyria, and served him not.

Hezekiah began a reformation in the land, one never before so all encompassing, and so deep.

8 He smote the Philistines, even unto Gaza, and the borders thereof, from the tower of the watchmen to the fenced city.

Philistia was an Assyrian province. By attacking Philistia Hezekiah was in effect rebelling against Assyria, and helped the local nationalists of the Philistines to regain their own independence from Assyria. Hezekiah over the ensuing years gained much influence around the area, and his reign in Jerusalem became more and more powerful, wealthy, and blessed. Many foreign dignitaries brought gifts and sought his counsel and friendship, much like they did in the beginning of Solomon’s reign, only Hezekiah remained faithful to his God. Because of his rebellion against Assyria, and his growing influence among the surrounding nations, the kings of Assyria decided to take action. The first action came fairly early in Hezekiah’s reign when Shalmaneser laid siege to the capital of Israel, Samaria.

9-12 ¶ And it came to pass in the fourth year of king Hezekiah, which was the seventh year of Hoshea son of Elah king of Israel, that Shalmaneser king of Assyria came up against Samaria, and besieged it. And at the end of three years they took it: even in the sixth year of Hezekiah, that is the ninth year of Hoshea king of Israel, Samaria was taken. And the king of Assyria did carry away Israel unto Assyria, and put them in Halah and in Habor by the river of Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes: Because they obeyed not the voice of the LORD their God, but transgressed his covenant, and all that Moses the servant of the LORD commanded, and would not hear them, nor do them.

It wasn’t Shalmaneser however that concluded that siege, for that honour went to his son, Sargon II.

Like his father Asa, there was an occasion when Hezekiah paid tribute to the Assyrian king in order to preserve the peace. It would appear however that this arrangement did not satisfy Assyrian demands. According to Assyrian tablets from that time Hezekiah only paid a portion of the amount demanded of him, and in addition refused to turn over to the Assyrians the Ekronite king who had sought refuge in Jerusalem.

So Sennacherib decided to pay Hezekiah a visit and deal with this problem in his realm.

13-21 Now in the fourteenth year of king Hezekiah did Sennacherib king of Assyria come up against all the fenced cities of Judah, and took them And Hezekiah king of Judah sent to the king of Assyria to Lachish, saying, I have offended; return from me: that which thou puttest on me will I bear. And the king of Assyria appointed unto Hezekiah king of Judah three hundred talents of silver and thirty talents of gold. And Hezekiah gave him all the silver that was found in the house of the LORD, and in the treasures of the king’s house. At that time did Hezekiah cut off the gold from the doors of the temple of the LORD, and from the pillars which Hezekiah king of Judah had overlaid, and gave it to the king of Assyria. ¶ And the king of Assyria sent Tartan and Rabsaris and Rabshakeh from Lachish to king Hezekiah with a great host against Jerusalem. And they went up and came to Jerusalem. And when they were come up, they came and stood by the conduit of the upper pool, which is in the highway of the fuller’s field. And when they had called to the king, there came out to them Eliakim the son of Hilkiah, which was over the household, and Shebna the scribe, and Joah the son of Asaph the recorder.

And Rabshakeh said unto them, Speak ye now to Hezekiah, Thus saith the great king, the king of Assyria, What confidence is this wherein thou trustest? Thou sayest, (but they are but vain words,) I have counsel and strength for the war. Now on whom dost thou trust, that thou rebellest against me? Now, behold, thou trustest upon the staff of this bruised reed, even upon Egypt, on which if a man lean, it will go into his hand, and pierce it: so is Pharaoh king of Egypt unto all that trust on him.

There is coming a time just as Revelation 16:13 informs us that the church of God will be surrounded by an enemy far outnumbering and by far outweighing anything the church may put up against them. At present we are freely able to rebel against the spiritual rulers of this world, just as Hezekiah rebelled against the rulers in his day. By our faithfulness to truth, and through our preaching of the true gospel, the three angels’ messages of Revelation 14, we testify to the lies and deceitfulness of Satan. He is not taking this lying down however. He is even now forming that coalition which he will use against the remnant people of God, and if possible, to finally destroy them.

Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

1 Cor. 3:16, 17 ¶ Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

This is our only way to ensure our ultimate preparation for the coming crisis. Free ourselves from the false idols...the dependence upon the institutions and riches of the world...by living holy lives in accordance to God's commandments. Note the text above...the dragon isn't interested in those people who profess faith in Christ but don't obey Him. His focus is on commandment keepers. Those who believe that righteoiusness comes by faith, and such faith bears the fruit of a holy life. Therein is your preparation.

 

[Soverign Grace]

Paradigm SG, means the way you see things ie, interpret them, your reality. For example, when a farmer looks at his cow he knows what breed it is, what gender it is, whether it is an animal raised for its flesh or for producing milk year after year. He can tell its condition and its age and so on, yet when a city person sees the same cow the best they can probably determine is its gender (maybe). The farmer sees with different eyes, eyes that pick detail accurately. That is a part of his paradigm.

It is no different with scripture. On an extreme level using the same analogy, there are those that might look at the cow and think it is a horse. Some folk look at scripture assuming that from their own understanding and endeavours they can plumb its mysteries. This is conceit and takes folks down all sorts of dead end warrens which their pride attempts to justify and embellish.

How does one learn to see and interpret accurately? Familiarity is important. One must be familiar with what one is looking at and a wiling and openness to learn. In the case of scripture, dealing with God inspired writings requires that one comes to God with an attitude that is teachable. God will guide you, that's a given. He will enable you to see what is required to be seen and build understanding upon understanding. It is not magical, it is the same as Mary sitting at Jesus feet and absorbing what he taught as opposed to Martha running around like a blue arsed fly.

That's a good explanation. It's likely important to have a teachable attitude. I seek God every day but I'm waiting on some big answers to prayer. I know all the promises and therein lies my struggle: I'm not seeing the answers. I have seen some prayers answered over the course of being a believer, that were unmistakably the Hand of God. I just had a legal case where I went up against the top law firm in our area and won and I'm not a lawyer. I knew it was God - He gave me an honest judge. The lawyer was also a liar and I'm not which is why God let me win. Yet other times God has left me to very harsh struggles. There are great needs in my family - for them and me - that I've been waiting and waiting on. Sometimes it gets a little maddening when you know God hears and you sense Him close yet there are no results. How would you handle that?

I keep feeling like I'm close - as if God is face to face but another day goes by and I'm not seeing the answers. I know I'm not as regular in my bible study as I should be - I wondered if that was it. I was for years - I studied every morning until a lot of trials hit and I was thrown off course. Are you saying you think that's it? One of our pastors used to say "pray until you touch the throne" and I've done that. It's hard because I don't get out as much as I'd like to go to church and bible study - it's hit or miss now and that disadvantages me. There is something in my spirit that's amiss. I've been searching for a long time how to put my finger on what it is. Maybe no one has ever experienced this but it's what I'm experiencing.

Does anyone listen to a solid bible teacher online?

 

[Soverign Grace]

I could recommend a book of hers, The Great Controversy it is freely available online in pdf format. Just skip to the last 5 chapters for the future, but what she says there is nothing more than what is outlined in scripture. Here is my version....
ARE YOU READY FOR THIS?

Ellen White was one of the Christian writers I first read when I came to God. I don't often hear her name. It was a small booklet I had at one time.

 

[Soverign Grace]

As I stated elsewhere, Soverign Grace, I have been watching these things for more than 25 years now. I'm well aware of all this stuff. I'm giving you a perspective that goes beyond it.

Btw, the point about Hispanics not being "natural conservatives" is indeed correct. Spiritually they are strongly Christian. Politically, however, most are strongly Democratic, because they view the Republican platform as racist against them. Not that it is, but they view it that way.


The threat is Islam.

I have only begun to see all this - God has opened my eyes up but what I see happening concerns me. Most of the doctors around are foreign and they are not Christians. *Be careful because they found foreigners posing as doctors to get into the U.S. using fake medical degrees. They've estimated there are about 10,000 of them "practicing" illegally. One operated on a man in FL and he's now in a wheelchair. They caught one near us that one of my children worked for. I only use American doctors now. Those from the Islands such as Haiti practice Santeria, and the Muslims practice Islam. A lot of the Indians are Hindu. I actually like the Hispanics because they aren't trying to build a Caliphate and many are likable people like the young men I worked with. But the way they're populating the country they're likely to change our political landscape to one of Socialism and that concerns me, and I don't want my family working to support the children they all have. A few of my children won't have any kids because they can't afford it - they're struggling to survive and pay their bills. So how are these numerous people from Mexico, Guatemala and such having so many babies? The old statement rings true: Sooner or later you run out of other people's money. I think it's unfair that my children aren't having babies yet are forced to work and pay taxes for the cultures that are having babies. I think this is one of the biggest reasons why Americans are so angry - I read through the comments under articles to get a feel for how people are thinking and people are angry at having to work while immigrants flock here for entitlements. The Sun Sentinel really opened my eyes when they interviewed the immigrants and they said they come to America for "El Ayuda" - the gifts. It's not just and God is a just God.

I hope everyone does speak up to their legislators about birth citizenship. It's unfair that a woman who is pregnant times her birth so that the child is born here. It's called "birth tourism" and once the children are born here they are made American citizens and then they're entitled to all the free things compliments of the taxpayers. That is not just. That's theft. One of my kids has to care for illegals and said it was disheartening that so much was taken out of paychecks and then see all the foreigners flocking here getting free medical care we have to pay for. They're coming here with TB and other things - many running up huge hospital bills in the hospital for 3+ months and they've had patients not care whether they infect anyone and leave the hospital with TB and go back into the public. That is so dangerous that I'm waiting to hear of a pandemic. So this mass migration is causing a lot of problems in many many ways. And as long as we're made to feel guilty and "racist" for not wanting all these dangers, we're allowing ourselves to be manipulated. I can like immigrants but still be against wanting to work to carry them, and not want them changing my country into Socialism, and not wanting their religion to swallow my Christianity.

And maybe if we had lived in an era where Protestantism was discriminated against we would have more concern over the Catholicism that they're bringing in and I'm going to keep that in mind since the Pope is straight illuminati - serving the devil. The last Pope was seen throwing the devil's hand signs. It would be a nightmare if the Pope was forced on us. I was raised Catholic however and when I searched for God I didn't find Him in the Catholic church. That could just be my experience however but I was thankful for the Protestant church and don't want them getting overwhelmed. God led us to a Baptist church and I feel comfortable there. My husband took me to the ER and I was in a bad way and all the immigrants were piled in there getting free health care and I was told it would be a 5 hour wait. So that was when I first saw how dangerous immigration had gotten. My husband waited in the hospital and let me go lay down in the car. I was rolling around in agony in the car and some guard came up rapping on the door ordering me to move. It was a nightmare.

I think the Hispanics, like the blacks have been convinced the Democrat party is for them and that isn't true. The Democrat party actually was behind the KKK Dennis Prager said. Although the Democrat party is for socialism and so are many Hispanics so that should concern all of us. Look at what happened in Venezuela. I'm just really beginning to look into all this.

 

[Soverign Grace]

I just read this and it made me even more on the fence with Trump. He may be legitimate - we don't know. He does have a lot against him if he is legitimate and I don't want to add to any opposition. I'm just stepping carefully.

Changes that are coming – The Final Wakeup Call

 

[Hidden In Him]

Most of the doctors around are foreign and they are not Christians. *Be careful because they found foreigners posing as doctors to get into the U.S. using fake medical degrees. They've estimated there are about 10,000 of them "practicing" illegally. One operated on a man in FL and he's now in a wheelchair. They caught one near us that one of my children worked for. I only use American doctors now.

Well, let me remind you again that you should keep praying for the Lord to help you eventually master being able to trust HIM for your health and your financial welfare, regardless of what doctors are around. Unbelievers are unbelievers, and He can and will use them to minister health to you if you are praying to Him every day to do so, and believing Him that He will because you are His and He is yours.

But the way they're populating the country they're likely to change our political landscape to one of Socialism and that concerns me, and I don't want my family working to support the children they all have. A few of my children won't have any kids because they can't afford it - they're struggling to survive and pay their bills. So how are these numerous people from Mexico, Guatemala and such having so many babies?

LoL. We already are turning Socialist. Obama's Presidency made great strides in that direction. But again, you need to be trusting in God, not in the direction this country is taking politically. The reason Hispanics are having so many kids still is because they are not as tied to the same standard of lifestyle we've grown accustomed to as native Americans. They just have different priorities. But about standard of living, the scripture does still teach that "having food and clothing, let us therewith be content." But so few people actually read that anymore or hear it preached on that they forget it's in the Bible, and then they grow discontent when they see their standard of living coming down. One good trip to a Third World country like some of the ones the Hispanics are coming from, where families are living in huts made out of tree branches, and many would have a new appreciation for the lifestyle we still enjoy in this country.

The Sun Sentinel really opened my eyes when they interviewed the immigrants and they said they come to America for "El Ayuda" - the gifts.... I can like immigrants but still be against wanting to work to carry them, and not want them changing my country into Socialism, and not wanting their religion to swallow my Christianity.

Keep in mind that it's our "leaders" who are making these things possible. I don't blame Hispanics. They're simply trying to better themselves. Several of those I associate with own very successful businesses. I rejoiced the day John McCain died. He was a traitor like many of our politicians. Maybe if we prayed more then more of them would die of ill-health, or preferably simply be removed from office.

And maybe if we had lived in an era where Protestantism was discriminated against we would have more concern over the Catholicism that they're bringing in and I'm going to keep that in mind since the Pope is straight illuminati - serving the devil. The last Pope was seen throwing the devil's hand signs. It would be a nightmare if the Pope was forced on us. I was raised Catholic however and when I searched for God I didn't find Him in the Catholic church. That could just be my experience however but I was thankful for the Protestant church and don't want them getting overwhelmed. God led us to a Baptist church and I feel comfortable there.

Again dear, you have your eyes on what the enemy is doing instead of what God is. You are never going to have peace under ANY circumstances until you learn to change this.

I keep feeling like I'm close - as if God is face to face but another day goes by and I'm not seeing the answers. I know I'm not as regular in my bible study as I should be - I wondered if that was it. I was for years - I studied every morning until a lot of trials hit and I was thrown off course. Are you saying you think that's it? One of our pastors used to say "pray until you touch the throne" and I've done that. It's hard because I don't get out as much as I'd like to go to church and bible study - it's hit or miss now and that disadvantages me. There is something in my spirit that's amiss. I've been searching for a long time how to put my finger on what it is. Maybe no one has ever experienced this but it's what I'm experiencing.

Does anyone listen to a solid bible teacher online?

Here is your biggest problem right here. Instead of praying to "touch the throne," He could be reaching you on a daily basis through you getting back to reading your Bible and asking Him to communicate to you. That's what's "amiss" that you are feeling. You are too caught up in all this globalist stuff and worries about immigration, and it is consuming your mind to the extent that you are not devoting yourself to hearing from God. There are New Testament commandments that strictly FORBID doing this, and give warnings about what will happen to those who do.

Forgot online for now. Return to spending time with Him yourself.

 

[quietthinker]

Sometimes it gets a little maddening when you know God hears and you sense Him close yet there are no results. How would you handle that?

There are always results, it's just that they are not what you expect and when and how you expect them. What does trust exclude when it comes to God? Trust will be tested. If we expect or demand a soft ride and complain when it isn't we have still a lot to learn.
Adversity is Gods honing tool. I don't like it any more than Job did. We need to encourage each other to be patient and obedient.

Prayer and study is for our own edification not so that God is impressed. The later is the 'religious' attitude that attempts to manipulate God by it's works. Israel fell into this error again and again and again. They thought that if they sacrificed more animals God would be pleased. At times they slaughtered hundreds and hundreds in the vain belief that they were pleasing God.

There is something in my spirit that's amiss.

To recognise this is a blessing. To acknowledge this is the precursor to an answer if we come clean before God.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I have only begun to see all this - God has opened my eyes up but what I see happening concerns me. Most of the doctors around are foreign and they are not Christians. *Be careful because they found foreigners posing as doctors to get into the U.S. using fake medical degrees. They've estimated there are about 10,000 of them "practicing" illegally. One operated on a man in FL and he's now in a wheelchair. They caught one near us that one of my children worked for. I only use American doctors now. Those from the Islands such as Haiti practice Santeria, and the Muslims practice Islam. A lot of the Indians are Hindu. I actually like the Hispanics because they aren't trying to build a Caliphate and many are likable people like the young men I worked with. But the way they're populating the country they're likely to change our political landscape to one of Socialism and that concerns me, and I don't want my family working to support the children they all have. A few of my children won't have any kids because they can't afford it - they're struggling to survive and pay their bills. So how are these numerous people from Mexico, Guatemala and such having so many babies? The old statement rings true: Sooner or later you run out of other people's money. I think it's unfair that my children aren't having babies yet are forced to work and pay taxes for the cultures that are having babies. I think this is one of the biggest reasons why Americans are so angry - I read through the comments under articles to get a feel for how people are thinking and people are angry at having to work while immigrants flock here for entitlements. The Sun Sentinel really opened my eyes when they interviewed the immigrants and they said they come to America for "El Ayuda" - the gifts. It's not just and God is a just God.

I hope everyone does speak up to their legislators about birth citizenship. It's unfair that a woman who is pregnant times her birth so that the child is born here. It's called "birth tourism" and once the children are born here they are made American citizens and then they're entitled to all the free things compliments of the taxpayers. That is not just. That's theft. One of my kids has to care for illegals and said it was disheartening that so much was taken out of paychecks and then see all the foreigners flocking here getting free medical care we have to pay for. They're coming here with TB and other things - many running up huge hospital bills in the hospital for 3+ months and they've had patients not care whether they infect anyone and leave the hospital with TB and go back into the public. That is so dangerous that I'm waiting to hear of a pandemic. So this mass migration is causing a lot of problems in many many ways. And as long as we're made to feel guilty and "racist" for not wanting all these dangers, we're allowing ourselves to be manipulated. I can like immigrants but still be against wanting to work to carry them, and not want them changing my country into Socialism, and not wanting their religion to swallow my Christianity.

And maybe if we had lived in an era where Protestantism was discriminated against we would have more concern over the Catholicism that they're bringing in and I'm going to keep that in mind since the Pope is straight illuminati - serving the devil. The last Pope was seen throwing the devil's hand signs. It would be a nightmare if the Pope was forced on us. I was raised Catholic however and when I searched for God I didn't find Him in the Catholic church. That could just be my experience however but I was thankful for the Protestant church and don't want them getting overwhelmed. God led us to a Baptist church and I feel comfortable there. My husband took me to the ER and I was in a bad way and all the immigrants were piled in there getting free health care and I was told it would be a 5 hour wait. So that was when I first saw how dangerous immigration had gotten. My husband waited in the hospital and let me go lay down in the car. I was rolling around in agony in the car and some guard came up rapping on the door ordering me to move. It was a nightmare.

I think the Hispanics, like the blacks have been convinced the Democrat party is for them and that isn't true. The Democrat party actually was behind the KKK Dennis Prager said. Although the Democrat party is for socialism and so are many Hispanics so that should concern all of us. Look at what happened in Venezuela. I'm just really beginning to look into all this.

Many from 3rd worlds want to come to Australia, when you talk to them they say they are coming to get the red carpet treatment, it's like winning the Lotto for them.
I had a old Slavic work mate who escaped from the Communist 1950's, he and his brother had seen movies showing how rich people lived and they jumped in a dinge and nearly died as they took no water, but his brother went to USA and him here, he got a rude shock that he had to work here, there was no free ride red carpet back then. red carpet was only rolled out for the Queen.

We live in a bludgers paradise and many of the people who work are screwed over no end, I know many people who have never worked in there lives they are better off than many who work mainly Aboriginals some of the half cast who can manage there money do well but the rest just squander it all or can barely count and then there are the drop kick whites who sponge off the system as well, we have generations of them now, it started in 1972 when the left Party tried to destroy Australia and that PM got the sack for being a total fool, he had destroyed so many Company's and it's been the same with every left Party from then on, will full wanton destruction is there game on every point you care to look at, sure they play the game well and empower all the dregs.

I have come across total bludgers who claim strongly that it's there right to have as many children as they want, they see it as there right and admit they have more drinking money that way, but when I say hey I would of liked to of had as many Children as they had but I could not afford such and to do such would be totally irresponsible on my part, but on there part who cares the government will pick up the tab.
Now we have x amount of people who say to me, We are a rich Nation don't you know !
They are convinced that noting matters, she will be right mate attitude. well living the life of Rely must be bliss. But what happens when reality kicks in ? and the dole cheques don't turn up, such people rant and carry on like morons saying my "pay cheque" is not on time !!! disaster !
What about if you work for yourself and your not payed on time or they go bankrupt on you etc etc no one gives a cracker and this goes on and on.
I say that all people who do a job well should get payed regardless and it could be done but it would cost a bit more to do it that way, so it gets rejected by the far right and left, no they want to cause great hardships on keeping everyone bogged down in the mud, they take delight in it and there is a reason, because they are of Satan, they have to kick you down because they are degenerates and degenerates are just like Pigs swilling in there own filth.

If one knows the history of Israel, they never looked up to pigs, they cast them out, such were Banished because they were a curse to the health of the Nation, and such destroyed the Tribe in the end.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

As I stated elsewhere, Soverign Grace, I have been watching these things for more than 25 years now. I'm well aware of all this stuff. I'm giving you a perspective that goes beyond it.

Btw, the point about Hispanics not being "natural conservatives" is indeed correct. Spiritually they are strongly Christian. Politically, however, most are strongly Democratic, because they view the Republican platform as racist against them. Not that it is, but they view it that way.


The threat is Islam.

The threat is Political Correctness and it is the door way that is open to all.

If we get rid of Political Correctness the Islamic threat is gone, as is all the other satanic clap trap.
Most people do not understand the foundations of Political Correctness at all and it is just so sad to see that people are just so uneducated on the History of such and it's cunning deceptions, millions of people went to war against this cancer in WW2 but they are totally oblivious to the fact that Communist and Hitler's mob used this tool to brainwash the people and to empower themselves over all.

I can go back 30 years and Islam did not have a hope of empowering it's self in Australia as the people would not tolerate it, they seen it for what it truly is and openly warned people about such madness.
W Churchill said of Islam was like rabies in a dog.
Our leader of the RSL pointed out the history of such .

 

[Hidden In Him]

W Churchill said of Islam was like rabies in a dog.

LoL. That's not very flattering. I tend to like Muslims as people. I just don't like their god. He has a lot of otherwise decent people misled.

Yes, political correctness is the globalist's way of making sure no one reacts to what is going on by downplaying the situation, and it's insidious.

 

[brakelite]

Muslims don't fight against their own evil perpetrators of terror for the same reason people like BoL won't fight against the same in his church. To do so is to court opposition and charges of heresy from your own church. That is more terrifying to people whose church is their god than inferences of collaboration with the terrorists and perverts who run those churches.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

LoL. That's not very flattering. I tend to like Muslims as people. I just don't like their god. He has a lot of otherwise decent people misled.

Yes, political correctness is the globalist's way of making sure no one reacts to what is going on by downplaying the situation, and it's insidious.

He was saying from his experience what he had seen of them back in the day and it's true, if you know the history.
Churchill is not talking about individuals.
Everyone knows the history that they are the most horrible murders and total bastards to women and just total pigs.
People nowadays are sheltered from the truth by the media no end as to what such bastards do, the media did not show you what Sadam did to his neighbours, did they because if they did people would total freak out to see that, most people could not stomach that sort of total depravity.

I know many Semitic people who are Islamic who have come to me explaining what goes on over their, they lived they seen it all. many have said that they want the media to come to them so they can warn others of what truly goes on, but the media shoves them out of the way and do not want to know them.

I see people as people but evil is evil and it should be truly recognised as such and not hidden from us, just like all the child molesters were in the churches and many other things, it gets on my goat to see people living in ignorance and evil out of control.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Excerpt from The Great Controversy Ellen White 1888
The papal church will never relinquish her claim to infallibility. All that she has done in her persecution of those who reject her dogmas she holds to be right; and would she not repeat the same acts, should the opportunity be presented? Let the restraints now imposed by secular governments be removed and Rome be reinstated in her former power, and there would speedily be a revival of her tyranny and persecution.
A well-known writer speaks thus of the attitude of the papal hierarchy as regards freedom of conscience, and of the perils which especially threaten the United States from the success of her policy:
“There are many who are disposed to attribute any fear of Roman Catholicism in the United States to bigotry or childishness. Such see nothing in the character and attitude of Romanism that is hostile to our free institutions, or find nothing portentous in its growth. Let us, then, first compare some of the fundamental principles of our government with those of the Catholic Church.
“The Constitution of the United States guarantees liberty of conscience. Nothing is dearer or more fundamental. Pope Pius IX, in his Encyclical Letter of August 15, 1854, said: `The absurd and erroneous doctrines or ravings in defense of liberty of conscience are a most pestilential error—a pest, of all others, most to be dreaded in a state.’ The same pope, in his Encyclical Letter of December 8, 1864, anathematized `those who assert the liberty of conscience and of religious worship,’ also ‘all such as maintain that the church may not employ force.’
“The pacific tone of Rome in the United States does not imply a change of heart. She is tolerant where she is helpless. Says Bishop O'Connor: ‘Religious liberty is merely endured until the opposite can be carried into effect without peril to the Catholic world.’... The archbishop of St. Louis once said: ‘Heresy and unbelief are crimes; and in Christian countries, as in Italy and Spain, for instance, where all the people are Catholics, and where the Catholic religion is an essential part of the law of the land, they are punished as other crimes.’...
The correct reference for the first citation is Pope Gregory XVI's encyclical letter of August 15, 1832. The relevant paragraph is here quoted in full:
Liberty of Conscience
“This shameful font of indifferentism gives rise to that absurd and erroneous proposition which claims that liberty of conscience must be maintained for everyone. It spreads ruin in sacred and civil affairs, though some repeat over and over again with the greatest impudence that some advantage accrues to religion from it. ‘But the death of the soul is worse than freedom of error,’ as Augustine was wont to say. When all restraints are removed by which men are kept on the narrow path of truth, their nature, which is already inclined to evil, propels them to ruin. Then truly ‘the bottomless pit’ is opened from which John saw smoke ascending which obscured the sun, and out of which locusts flew forth to devastate the earth. Thence comes transformation of minds, corruption of youths, contempt of sacred things and holy laws—in other words, a pestilence more deadly to the state than any other. Experience shows, even from earliest times, that cities renowned for wealth, dominion, and glory perished as a result of this single evil, namely immoderate freedom of opinion, license of free speech, and desire for novelty.”—As printed in Claudia Carlen, IHM, The Papal Encyclicals, 1740-1878 (Ann Arbor, Michigan: The Pierian Press, 1990) 1:238.
The second citation should be credited to Pope Pius IX's Syllabus of Errors, which accompanied his encyclical letter of December 8, 1864. Included among the 80 errors anathematized are:
“24. The church has not the power of using force, nor has she any temporal power, direct or indirect.—Apostolic Letter ‘Ad Apostolicae,’ August 22, 1851.”
“78. Hence it has been wisely decided by law, in some Catholic countries, that persons coming to reside therein shall enjoy the public exercise of their own peculiar worship.
—Allocution ‘acerbissimum,’ September 27, 1852.
“79. Moreover, it is false that the civil liberty of every form of worship, and the full power, given to all, of overtly and publicly manifesting any opinions whatsoever and thoughts, conduce more easily to corrupt the morals and minds of the people, and to propagate the pest of indifferentism.—Allocution ‘Nunquam Fore,’ December 15, 1856.”—As printed in Anne Fremantle, ed., The Papal Encyclicals in their Historical Context (New York: G. P. Putnam's Sons, 1956), 146, 152.

That is all out of context.

 

[brakelite]

That is all out of context.

Perhaps you could put it into context for us then, giving consideration to the fact that she isn't the only author to have stated this. Great historians for centuries have said the same, based not just on experience, but from the Papacy's own writings.

 

[Heart2Soul]

I just read this and it made me even more on the fence with Trump. He may be legitimate - we don't know. He does have a lot against him if he is legitimate and I don't want to add to any opposition. I'm just stepping carefully.

Changes that are coming – The Final Wakeup Call

The person that wrote that article is biased and opinionated in his article. Yes there will be an economic collapse....but it wasn't Trump who said it was God's Word that prophesied it. I rejoice in seeing His Prophetic Word coming to pass as it said it would because it continues to confirm His Word as the Truly Inspired Word of God....and it cannot be changed, taken away from or added to. Not one dot or tittle shall in no way fail to come to pass but every single line of it will be fulfilled.
Furthermore....it's not the U.S. that you should be keeping a guarded eye on it is Israel and the Middle East....The Sorrows of Jacob....the Gog and Magog...the rebuilding of the Temple to completion....IMO. That's what the Holy Spirit spoke to me anyways....He said keep your eyes on Israel and the Middle East.....
That makes a lot of since to me because from these countries came the fulfillment of prophesy of Jesus and of the rise of the antichrist....I am persuaded the antichrist will come from the middle east.

 

[Soverign Grace]

I think that once the final events start to unfold, they will progress very rapidly. Various time frames in Revelation indicate a quick culmination to the controversy. I don't mean the 1260 days (we Adventists, and others, see this as 1260 years, ...an equal time to the 42 months and times, time, and half a time, based on year/day principle found elsewhere...that time period has been and gone; 538-1798.) The time periods I am thinking of are two: the one hour the kings of the earth give their sovereignty to the beast, and the one day in Revelation 18:8 which prophetically works out to about 2 weeks. Now I am not drawing a line in the sand here. But I think that once the US repudiates the first amendment, giving power to the church under the leadership of the pope, (see a video previously offered by The holy book ends on Trump and the Papacy) enforcing the mark of the beast, time will be short. Leading up to that time...who knows, Could be many years, could be a month. One major catastrophe could be all it takes. Whether by nature...man-made...or a collapse in international finance...or maybe a combination of all of the above.
I don't believe any horror story or apocalyptic movie from Hollywood or our worst nightmares can envision what is coming, or prepare adequately to cope. Our only hope will lie in our steadfast faith in the person of Jesus. What I do see is the coming together of various non-Christian and Christian faiths, including spiritualists and apostate protestants, joining together with Rome to form a global union. This is happening now. And when you consider the current political moves toward a NWO through the UN, such a scenario as I have described above is effectually ready to roll anytime. The mechanism is in place. All it takes is the convincing.
BTW The Great Controversy is a great book. I do recommend it.
"And all the world wondered after the Beast,"

Brakelite - do you have any ideas or thoughts on what that "convincing" might be? I'm concerned about a nuclear war. I watched a documentary and a former security expert said that the threat of nuclear war has grown worse, not better.

I've been wary of Rick Warren because I read that he's on the Council of Foreign Relations and mixed Christianity with Islam. I read some other things about him that are concerning - and we had bought one of his books a few years ago.

It's a little scary when you see how many people are deluded by the Pope. Once you're wise to him you can recognize when he's pushing followers into accepting the dictates of the NWO under the guise of one thing or another.

 

[Soverign Grace]

The person that wrote that article is biased and opinionated in his article. Yes there will be an economic collapse....but it wasn't Trump who said it was God's Word that prophesied it. I rejoice in seeing His Prophetic Word coming to pass as it said it would because it continues to confirm His Word as the Truly Inspired Word of God....and it cannot be changed, taken away from or added to. Not one dot or tittle shall in no way fail to come to pass but every single line of it will be fulfilled.
Furthermore....it's not the U.S. that you should be keeping a guarded eye on it is Israel and the Middle East....The Sorrows of Jacob....the Gog and Magog...the rebuilding of the Temple to completion....IMO. That's what the Holy Spirit spoke to me anyways....He said keep your eyes on Israel and the Middle East.....
That makes a lot of since to me because from these countries came the fulfillment of prophesy of Jesus and of the rise of the antichrist....I am persuaded the antichrist will come from the middle east.

I've wondered if we should take any action or if we should step back and accept that the world is going to unfold the way Scripture states. This is how a friend sees it, but I wonder if we should get involved in organizations to try to oppose any of what is happening.

What concerned me in the referenced article was the author stating that this would happen within a 3-week period. Stocks did drop and we know from Scripture how this is going to ultimately play out.

 

[Heart2Soul]

I've wondered if we should take any action or if we should step back and accept that the world is going to unfold the way Scripture states. This is how a friend sees it, but I wonder if we should get involved in organizations to try to oppose any of what is happening.

What concerned me in the referenced article was the author stating that this would happen within a 3-week period. Stocks did drop and we know from Scripture how this is going to ultimately play out.

The actions God wants us to take is to stand firm in our faith....do not be easily tossed to and fro by different doctrines....to evangelize the message of the Gospel of Salvation to others....to study His Word and be wise as serpents and gentle as doves....and to do all that His Word commands us to do....and tons of other things but....oh pray without ceasing....until we all come together in the unity of faith....and He specifically said give no thought for the things of tomorrow...let today be sufficient for itself. Love, Hope and Faith will be our greatest weapons against the upcoming worldly battles.

 

[Soverign Grace]

Excerpt from The Great Controversy Ellen White 1888
The papal church will never relinquish her claim to infallibility. All that she has done in her persecution of those who reject her dogmas she holds to be right; and would she not repeat the same acts, should the opportunity be presented? Let the restraints now imposed by secular governments be removed and Rome be reinstated in her former power, and there would speedily be a revival of her tyranny and persecution.
A well-known writer speaks thus of the attitude of the papal hierarchy as regards freedom of conscience, and of the perils which especially threaten the United States from the success of her policy:
“There are many who are disposed to attribute any fear of Roman Catholicism in the United States to bigotry or childishness. Such see nothing in the character and attitude of Romanism that is hostile to our free institutions, or find nothing portentous in its growth. Let us, then, first compare some of the fundamental principles of our government with those of the Catholic Church.
“The Constitution of the United States guarantees liberty of conscience. Nothing is dearer or more fundamental. Pope Pius IX, in his Encyclical Letter of August 15, 1854, said: `The absurd and erroneous doctrines or ravings in defense of liberty of conscience are a most pestilential error—a pest, of all others, most to be dreaded in a state.’ The same pope, in his Encyclical Letter of December 8, 1864, anathematized `those who assert the liberty of conscience and of religious worship,’ also ‘all such as maintain that the church may not employ force.’
“The pacific tone of Rome in the United States does not imply a change of heart. She is tolerant where she is helpless. Says Bishop O'Connor: ‘Religious liberty is merely endured until the opposite can be carried into effect without peril to the Catholic world.’... The archbishop of St. Louis once said: ‘Heresy and unbelief are crimes; and in Christian countries, as in Italy and Spain, for instance, where all the people are Catholics, and where the Catholic religion is an essential part of the law of the land, they are punished as other crimes.’...
The correct reference for the first citation is Pope Gregory XVI's encyclical letter of August 15, 1832. The relevant paragraph is here quoted in full:
Liberty of Conscience
“This shameful font of indifferentism gives rise to that absurd and erroneous proposition which claims that liberty of conscience must be maintained for everyone. It spreads ruin in sacred and civil affairs, though some repeat over and over again with the greatest impudence that some advantage accrues to religion from it. ‘But the death of the soul is worse than freedom of error,’ as Augustine was wont to say. When all restraints are removed by which men are kept on the narrow path of truth, their nature, which is already inclined to evil, propels them to ruin. Then truly ‘the bottomless pit’ is opened from which John saw smoke ascending which obscured the sun, and out of which locusts flew forth to devastate the earth. Thence comes transformation of minds, corruption of youths, contempt of sacred things and holy laws—in other words, a pestilence more deadly to the state than any other. Experience shows, even from earliest times, that cities renowned for wealth, dominion, and glory perished as a result of this single evil, namely immoderate freedom of opinion, license of free speech, and desire for novelty.”—As printed in Claudia Carlen, IHM, The Papal Encyclicals, 1740-1878 (Ann Arbor, Michigan: The Pierian Press, 1990) 1:238.
The second citation should be credited to Pope Pius IX's Syllabus of Errors, which accompanied his encyclical letter of December 8, 1864. Included among the 80 errors anathematized are:
“24. The church has not the power of using force, nor has she any temporal power, direct or indirect.—Apostolic Letter ‘Ad Apostolicae,’ August 22, 1851.”
“78. Hence it has been wisely decided by law, in some Catholic countries, that persons coming to reside therein shall enjoy the public exercise of their own peculiar worship.
—Allocution ‘acerbissimum,’ September 27, 1852.
“79. Moreover, it is false that the civil liberty of every form of worship, and the full power, given to all, of overtly and publicly manifesting any opinions whatsoever and thoughts, conduce more easily to corrupt the morals and minds of the people, and to propagate the pest of indifferentism.—Allocution ‘Nunquam Fore,’ December 15, 1856.”—As printed in Anne Fremantle, ed., The Papal Encyclicals in their Historical Context (New York: G. P. Putnam's Sons, 1956), 146, 152.

The point that may be the most important is that the Catholic church is tolerant when she is helpless. Who hasn't know a situation where someone or something was held in check until such a time as restraints were removed from that person or thing and then such turned into a monster of sorts. We can see this in nature, when an ecological balance is disturbed, and a specific algae grows out of control. Or an individual who previously hadn't held power, who then attained some power and then became a wolf.