justbyfaith
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Prove it.Righteousness is not salvation. No OT was born again into the resurrection.
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Prove it.Righteousness is not salvation. No OT was born again into the resurrection.
Revelation 22:17 invites believers, not unbelievers who cannot hear the call.'The "elect" are the "whosoever-will," and the 'non-elect" are the "whosoever-wonts"' (Sam P Jones).
Revelation 22:17 (NIRV) confirms this: 'The Holy Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And the person who hears should say, “Come!” Anyone who is thirsty should come. Anyone who wants to take the free gift of the water of life should do so'
Well, let's see. Hitler walked in the light he had. As do abortionists, and thugs......The gazillions are without excuse when they stand before God. What have they done with the light given to them?
Aren't we doing the same avoiding my claim that free will changes the gospel into law? Hummmmm?You avoid the issues I raise regarding God's salvation and human free will, so you can spin off into what you want to talk about.
I don't buy into your tactics.
Paul says were were dead in trespasses and sins.Poor illustration!
All men = Jews and Gentiles alike. Not just Jews as in the old days.I'm missing no such thing. You are missing the content of Titus 2:11 (ESV), 'For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people'.
logabe,
Since when did 'draw' mean 'drag'?
Leading Greek exegete of the 20th century, Dr A. T. Robertson wrote of John 12:32:
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Will draw all men unto myself (panta elkusw pro emauton). Future active of elkuw, late form of elkw, to draw, to attract. Jesus had already used this verb of the Father's drawing power ( Luke 6:44 ). The magnetism of the Cross is now known of all men, however little they understand the mystery of the Cross. By "all men" (panta) Jesus does not mean every individual man, for some, as Simeon said ( Luke 2:34 ) are repelled by Christ, but this is the way that Greeks (verse Jo 12:22) can and will come to Christ, by the way of the Cross, the only way to the Father (14:6) [Bible Study Tools].
"Abraham believed in the LORD, and it was counted to him for righteousness."
Little children, do not be deceivedRighteousness is not salvation.
Anyone who is thirsty should come. Anyone who wants to take the free gift of the water of life should do soRevelation 22:17 invites believers, not unbelievers who cannot hear the call.
People love sin more than God, unless born again. So it applies only to these and condemns the rest, wadr.Anyone who is thirsty should come. Anyone who wants to take the free gift of the water of life should do so
imo your Hegelian distinction of "believers" is going to betray you Dave
nope,Aren't we doing the same avoiding my claim that free will changes the gospel into law
^You have refused to answer my questions and comments from #194 & #236.
you are adroit and dancing around bushes Dave, but all you have done here is avoid my Q too ok, no offense.People love sin more than God, unless born again. So it applies only to these and condemns the rest, wadr.
Well, let's see. Hitler walked in the light he had.
That sounds like the New Testament... Romans 10:10 says,
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
So in order to be saved we must become Abrahams seed.
Isn't light knowledge?Hitler walked in darkness in spite of the light that was given to him.
isn't ignoring posts that you can't address darkness?Isn't light knowledge?
Please give an example wadr......isn't ignoring posts that you can't address darkness?
what, you mean again, Dave?
I see only empty claims against me with no substance.isn't ignoring posts that you can't address darkness?