Jesus Christ Prophesied He Will Not Return Until This Happens - Matthew 23:39

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Jesus Christ Prophesied He Will Not Return Until This Happens

Matthew 23:39
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed [is] he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

The first fold of sheep (Christians / believers) must say as the Lord prophesied before He will return. Of course there are other prophesies regarding the Lord's return, which are not the subject of this thread.

The second fold of sheep are the gentile Christians / believers. The two folds make one flock, and the Lord Jesus is the Shepherd, or Good Shepherd.

John 10:16
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice: and they shall become one flock, one shepherd.
Matthew 23:39 was spoken to the people of Jerusalem. What He meant was that the first fold would not see Him except in spirit, for they were born under the first Adam and were "the dead in Christ", to whom He first came: "the house of Israel." For which He also said, "hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven”, which is to say, "in spirit."

The second fold, are "the living in Christ", those born [again] of the spirit of God.
 

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You cannot support your position from scripture because you shredded most of it.
Scriptural support is what shredded it, as you called it. And, you can't support your position because there is no truth in it and you haven't supported it in the least. In the Bible I'm now using, 27 pages are written ABOUT you and I. The other 1791 pages are NOT written ABOUT you or I. That are all written FOR our learning, though

Differences:

During Acts
1- Calling - New Jerusalem
2- Hope - Rapture at 2nd Coming - Parousia
3- Church - 100% Israel - Jews plus Gentiles that were part of Israel, since they were grafted into Israel
4- Dispensation - Dispensation of Promise
5- Source - Moses and the prophets - Acts 26:22
6- Relative Position - Israel the head, Gentiles the tail
7- Salvation - Only Israel has salvation Jn 4:22
8- Always Jew first
9- Healing
10- Definite difference between Jews and Gentiles
11- The Bride
12- Blessings - Partook of a few of Israel's Blessing

After Acts
1- Calling - the Highest Heaven
2- Hope - Appearing - Epiphaneia
3- Church - 100% Gentiles - All Jews are Gentiles
4- Dispensation - Dispensation of the Mystery
5- Source - God, who kept it hidden from since the world began, until Christ revealed it to Paul after Acts. Eph3:3
6- Relative Position - Gentiles the head, There is no Israel
7- Only Gentiles have Salvation - Acts 28:28
8- Always whoever first
9- NO healing -
10- NO difference between Jews and Gentiles
11- The Body of the bridegroom
12- Has EVERY Possible Blessing in the Highest Heaven, Eph 1:3

Similarities
Jesus Christ and that's ALL


During Acts vs After Acts = Apples and Oranges
 
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Matthew 23:39 was spoken to the people of Jerusalem. What He meant was that the first fold would not see Him except in spirit, for they were born under the first Adam and were "the dead in Christ", to whom He first came: "the house of Israel." For which He also said, "hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven”, which is to say, "in spirit."

The second fold, are "the living in Christ", those born [again] of the spirit of God.
100% private interpretation - Zero Biblical proof of anything you just said
 

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I repea

That was a goofy retort

100% private interpretation - Zero Biblical proof of anything you just said
For which you shall receive double.
 

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The thing is that all have to get on the same page, it's Jesus Christ who is the answer and it always will be, you can not bring in another Jesus, Jesus does not come down again in the flesh you know (this is Biblical) and if you think that he does you are lost as to who Jesus Christ is in fact.
You need the Holy Spirit and then you will know him.
The problem with most in the church today is that they do not know Jesus Christ in fact and that's why they are looking for him in vain because they have not him in there lives.

The people who are into this façade of looking to the so called Jews for their salvation or some sort of hope are totally deceived and do not even know anything much about the Jews in reality and are to stupid to bother to find out and just peddling in blind faith. not to mention rejecting Jesus Christ in fact, how stupid can one be.

Truly If they think that over the 2000 years that the Christians did not get the message, they are condemning all Christians who have gone before them to hell, not to mention reject Jesus Christ.

The Talmud Jews are not Jews at all but a Whore of Satan and the Zionist are Satanist in fact, just look at the stupid flag that they have and that Satanic Star ! you know what St Stephen said about it, only a moron would reject what St Stephen said about such, even Saul woke up to the reality when he was Born Again.
 
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Scriptural support is what shredded it, as you called it. And, you can't support your position because there is no truth in it and you haven't supported it in the least. In the Bible I'm now using, 27 pages are written ABOUT you and I. The other 1791 pages are NOT written ABOUT you or I. That are all written FOR our learning, though

Differences:

During Acts
1- Calling - New Jerusalem
2- Hope - Rapture at 2nd Coming - Parousia
3- Church - 100% Israel - Jews plus Gentiles that were part of Israel, since they were grafted into Israel
4- Dispensation - Dispensation of Promise
5- Source - Moses and the prophets - Acts 26:22
6- Relative Position - Israel the head, Gentiles the tail
7- Salvation - Only Israel has salvation Jn 4:22
8- Always Jew first
9- Healing
10- Definite difference between Jews and Gentiles
11- The Bride
12- Blessings - Partook of a few of Israel's Blessing

After Acts
1- Calling - the Highest Heaven
2- Hope - Appearing - Epiphaneia
3- Church - 100% Gentiles - All Jews are Gentiles
4- Dispensation - Dispensation of the Mystery
5- Source - God, who kept it hidden from since the world began, until Christ revealed it to Paul after Acts. Eph3:3
6- Relative Position - Gentiles the head, There is no Israel
7- Only Gentiles have Salvation - Acts 28:28
8- Always whoever first
9- NO healing -
10- NO difference between Jews and Gentiles
11- The Body of the bridegroom
12- Has EVERY Possible Blessing in the Highest Heaven, Eph 1:3

Similarities
Jesus Christ and that's ALL


During Acts vs After Acts = Apples and Oranges
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Coming to a Church near you! "the Texas Chainsaw Bible Massacre" Directed and produced by AC28 R: includes graphic dismembering of the scriptures; brutality; blasphemy; not suitable for Children (of God).
Your ridicule of God's truth will bite you one of these days
 
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Your ridicule of God's truth will bite you one of these days

“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.” (2 Peter 2:1) (KJV 1900)

You rip Jesus' words right from scripture and throw them away.................
 
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“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.” (2 Peter 2:1) (KJV 1900)

You rip Jesus' words right from scripture and throw them away.................

Dave do not be to quick to make that judgement of others lest you be judged to the same standard and found wanting.
 

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“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.” (2 Peter 2:1) (KJV 1900)

You rip Jesus' words right from scripture and throw them away.................

No I don't. I love every word He said. I just know His ministry was ONLY to Israel and I'm a Gentile and so are you
Mt 15:24 "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

That's a very plain statement that many like you treat as though it doesn't exist, and there are several more like it. Christ's statements are what rips it from us Gentiles. He chose Paul and trained him to be the sole apostle, teacher, and preacher to us Gentiles. When you hear Paul, you are hearing Christ.

There are 4 types of truth: Doctrinal, Practical, Prophetical, and Dispensational. For the first 3, there are many truths in the Gospels that are FOR our learning, walk, etc. Dispensational truths are different. They are truths, in every dispensation, that apply only to those in the particular dispensation where they are administered. For example, probably 90% of Christ's teaching in His ministry pertained to the 100% Israel, promised earthly Kingdom. Nothing about that Kingdom has anything to do with us since no Gentiles are invited. The Sermon on the Mount is part of that earthy Kingdom. It starts with the meek inheriting the earth and NO Gentile will ever have an inheritance on the Earth or the New Jerusalem, which will be an appendage of the earth, a city where each tribe has it's own gate. There are no Gentile gates. Our inheritance is in the Highest Heaven, a place where no Jew will set foot in, unless they believe Christ died for their sins, was buried, and resurrected after 3 days and are given the eyes to SEE His Hope in Paul's 7 post-Acts epistles
 
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And here we go again using such as the King James version whose archaic English is very difficult to understand for many.

Christ came for Israel but they rejected him so he turned to the Gentiles.

Israel was covenant but unfaithful. So the Bible compares it to the divorce.

He established the church to the Gentiles and believing Jews.

Church will be removed in the rapture at the opening of the tribulation.

Israel will finally accept Jesus at the second coming. They will again be the wife of God.

Israel and Judah will be reunited and live once again in Israel under the new covenant to the houses of Judah and Israel.

The body of Christ has the church and Israel as coheirs.

Israel is not church and the church is not Israel, in covenant terms.

Israel is one flocked and church another.

There are also those that never heard the gospel that are under different terms for salvation. But for the purposes of this topic we are dealing with Israel and church as two flocked.
 

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No I don't. I love every word He said. I just know His ministry was ONLY to Israel and I'm a Gentile and so are you
Mt 15:24 "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

That's a very plain statement that many like you treat as though it doesn't exist, and there are several more like it. Christ's statements are what rips it from us Gentiles. He chose Paul and trained him to be the sole apostle, teacher, and preacher to us Gentiles. When you hear Paul, you are hearing Christ.

There are 4 types of truth: Doctrinal, Practical, Prophetical, and Dispensational. For the first 3, there are many truths in the Gospels that are FOR our learning, walk, etc. Dispensational truths are different. They are truths, in every dispensation, that apply only to those in the particular dispensation where they are administered. For example, probably 90% of Christ's teaching in His ministry pertained to the 100% Israel, promised earthly Kingdom. Nothing about that Kingdom has anything to do with us since no Gentiles are invited. The Sermon on the Mount is part of that earthy Kingdom. It starts with the meek inheriting the earth and NO Gentile will ever have an inheritance on the Earth or the New Jerusalem, which will be an appendage of the earth, a city where each tribe has it's own gate. There are no Gentile gates. Our inheritance is in the Highest Heaven, a place where no Jew will set foot in, unless they believe Christ died for their sins, was buried, and resurrected after 3 days and are given the eyes to SEE His Hope in Paul's 7 post-Acts epistles
It's, I was not sent but unto the lost sheep of the House of the Servants of God. (Israel)

There is no Jewish race and there never was such a race ever, it's a Spiritual House that you become, or your out side of such and lost and anyone who has the Holy Spirit knows that is a fact.
If you do not have the Holy Spirit you are Lost, such was always the case from the beginning.

There is nether Jew or Greek when one becomes truly a Christian, Born Again as a Servant of God.

This concept of two peoples under God is Blasphemy, a working of Antichrist.
 
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And here we go again using such as the King James version whose archaic English is very difficult to understand for many.

Christ came for Israel but they rejected him so he turned to the Gentiles.

Israel was covenant but unfaithful. So the Bible compares it to the divorce.

He established the church to the Gentiles and believing Jews.

Church will be removed in the rapture at the opening of the tribulation.

Israel will finally accept Jesus at the second coming. They will again be the wife of God.

Israel and Judah will be reunited and live once again in Israel under the new covenant to the houses of Judah and Israel.

The body of Christ has the church and Israel as coheirs.

Israel is not church and the church is not Israel, in covenant terms.

Israel is one flocked and church another.

There are also those that never heard the gospel that are under different terms for salvation. But for the purposes of this topic we are dealing with Israel and church as two flocked.
Jesus came for the Servants of God and we see that Jesus meets a true Israelite called Nathaniel and says so and Nathaniel knows who Jesus is directly, so the fact remains that no true Servant of God would reject Jesus ever and never has or will in fact.
All the Jews were Lost, there was no hope in them at all in fact, they needed a Saviour !

All who are Born Again are in the Kingdom of God and that's how the second coming works, Jesus comes into your Heart and Soul.
 
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No I don't. I love every word He said. I just know His ministry was ONLY to Israel and I'm a Gentile and so are you
Mt 15:24 "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

That's a very plain statement that many like you treat as though it doesn't exist, and there are several more like it. Christ's statements are what rips it from us Gentiles. He chose Paul and trained him to be the sole apostle, teacher, and preacher to us Gentiles. When you hear Paul, you are hearing Christ.

There are 4 types of truth: Doctrinal, Practical, Prophetical, and Dispensational. For the first 3, there are many truths in the Gospels that are FOR our learning, walk, etc. Dispensational truths are different. They are truths, in every dispensation, that apply only to those in the particular dispensation where they are administered. For example, probably 90% of Christ's teaching in His ministry pertained to the 100% Israel, promised earthly Kingdom. Nothing about that Kingdom has anything to do with us since no Gentiles are invited. The Sermon on the Mount is part of that earthy Kingdom. It starts with the meek inheriting the earth and NO Gentile will ever have an inheritance on the Earth or the New Jerusalem, which will be an appendage of the earth, a city where each tribe has it's own gate. There are no Gentile gates. Our inheritance is in the Highest Heaven, a place where no Jew will set foot in, unless they believe Christ died for their sins, was buried, and resurrected after 3 days and are given the eyes to SEE His Hope in Paul's 7 post-Acts epistles
You are robbing people of the central message of the New Covenant. The Sermon on the Mount is the backbone of all Christian ethics. And John says if you do not have that, you are not saved.
 
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Dave do not be to quick to make that judgement of others lest you be judged to the same standard and found wanting.
Scripture condemns those who do not have the Sermon on the Mount. And this is just one of the serious errors we notice in the form of dispensationalism.