Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.
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"All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out."
1Ch 16:11, Seek the LORD and his strength, seek his face continually.
2Ch 7:14, If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
Psa 24:6, This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah.
Psa 27:8, When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek.
Psa 105:4, Seek the LORD, and his strength: seek his face evermore.
Calvinism denies John 6:37, by teaching that if you are not of his elect, you can come to Him and yet still not be saved.
Well, there is such a prevalence of 'sign the dotted line / raise your hand / come to the front of the auditorium to talk to a counsellor' sort of 'evangelism' that the essential work of the Holy Spirit in drawing sinners to Christ is often overlooked, in fact if not in theory.
I don't think I follow whatever your definition of Calvinism is; in any case, good to stick with the plain statements of Scripture.
Again, in contradiction to scripture, since we are saved by grace through faith.
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...which begs the question. Where does the faith come from? from the flesh?
grace precedes faith. Faith is the evidence God saves a person. Human flesh faith cannot save or provide this assurance.
In this, salvation would be in receiving the key from the Lord's hand.
However, salvation is not really apprehended until you use the key to enter through the door into the room we call grace.
If you save yourself, you steal God's glory and wear it with pride.
There is a prevenient grace that is given in that Jesus hands you the key to the door.
But having the key precedes the saving grace of having entered in through the door.
You are the last link in the chain. And it's your response (works) that save you according to all you say about the matter.
Well, I think I am done here. If you didn't get it by now, maybe you never will. And Jesus did say to let the blind be leaders of the blind.
Jesus gives me the key, so He is the Saviour in this matter. He is also the door by which I enter.
Human faith cannot save. Only Holy Spirit faith provides proof to the Christian of their salvation.
Works indeed follow faith; are a proof of faith. (Ephesians 2.10)
But works do not create faith. (Ephesians 2.9). We need the Holy Spirit for the faith.
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