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Featured Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by GISMYS_7, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. GISMYS_7

    GISMYS_7 Well-Known Member

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    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say. He must start by choosing to believe!
    Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13

    God says==That """if""" thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,

    and ""shalt believe"" in your heart that God hath raised him

    from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man

    believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth ""confession

    is made unto Salvation"". For whosoever shall ""call ""upon the

    name of the Lord "shall" be Saved..........
     
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  2. Dave L

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    This is salvation by works. And hypocrisy because you think people must act like Christians to become one. If you must "choose to believe" it is only because you don't believe.
     
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    GISMYS_7 Well-Known Member

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    It is a characteristic of those whom God saves. Not a hoop for the self-righteous to jump through and save themselves. Stealing part of God's glory in salvation in the process.
     
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    GISMYS_7 Well-Known Member

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    What is hard to understand when you read this scripture???

    Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13

    God says==That """if""" thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,

    and ""shalt believe"" in your heart that God hath raised him

    from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man

    believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth ""confession

    is made unto Salvation"". For whosoever shall ""call ""upon the

    name of the Lord "shall" be Saved..........
     
  6. Dave L

    Dave L Guest

    You think it says "act like a Christian and do these things that genuine believers do by nature of the new birth, and you can save yourself. But that is salvation by works.

    Jesus said whoever believes has eternal life. Why? because eternal life is the new birth and those who are born again believe and do all the things real Christians do. They repent, become baptized, live holy lives, and worship God.
     
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    GISMYS_7 Well-Known Member

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    LOL!!! You tell us what does this scripture say to you???
    What is hard to understand when you read this scripture???

    Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13

    God says==That """if""" thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,

    and ""shalt believe"" in your heart that God hath raised him

    from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man

    believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth ""confession

    is made unto Salvation"". For whosoever shall ""call ""upon the

    name of the Lord "shall" be Saved..........
     
  8. Dave L

    Dave L Guest

    This is salvation by works. Those saved by grace naturally do these things.
     
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    GISMYS_7 Well-Known Member

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    So do you really want to say Romans 10:9-13 is teaching " salvation by works"???
     
  10. Dave L

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    No, you are reading it that way. Paul is reassuring believers, not offering a way for the self-righteous to glory in their own salvation, falsely assumed.
     
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    GISMYS_7 Well-Known Member

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    One last time!!! I WILL WASTE NO MORE OF MY TIME!
    Read very slowly and understand what God's Word is saying===Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13

    God says==That """if""" thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,

    and ""shalt believe"" in your heart that God hath raised him

    from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man

    believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth ""confession

    is made unto Salvation"". For whosoever shall ""call ""upon the

    name of the Lord "shall" be Saved...
     
  12. Dave L

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    But, you turn grace into law for the self-righteous to keep in an effort to save themselves. Your faith is in yourself and what you did, not in God and what he did for you.
     
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    I JUST BELIEVE GOD'S WORD!!!AND YOU??
    Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13

    God says==That """if""" thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,

    and ""shalt believe"" in your heart that God hath raised him

    from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man

    believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth ""confession

    is made unto Salvation"". For whosoever shall ""call ""upon the

    name of the Lord "shall" be Saved...
     
  14. Dave L

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    But you think you save yourself going through this little ritual. And you trust in yourself for having gone through it, instead of God.
     
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    I JUST BELIEVE GOD'S WORD!!!AND YOU??
    Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13

    God says==That """if""" thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,

    and ""shalt believe"" in your heart that God hath raised him

    from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man

    believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth ""confession

    is made unto Salvation"". For whosoever shall ""call ""upon the

    name of the Lord "shall" be Saved...
     
  16. Dave L

    Dave L Guest

    The Catholics have similar rituals they trust in too.
     
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    Believing the Word of God is NO " ritual"
     
  18. Dave L

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    You are not talking about believing the Word. You are turning the word into a ritual you can recite to save yourself. Believers are those who hear the good news about their salvation and believe it. And then do all the things believers do because they believe.
     
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    GISMYS_7 Well-Known Member

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    Feeling vanquished by Truth?? Stop digging deeper!!
    Romans 10:9-21 IS God's Word and I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE IT!!!And you???
    Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13

    God says==That """if""" thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,

    and ""shalt believe"" in your heart that God hath raised him

    from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man

    believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth ""confession

    is made unto Salvation"". For whosoever shall ""call ""upon the

    name of the Lord "shall" be Saved...
     
  20. Dave L

    Dave L Guest

    Saved people do this. But it is not the gospel. You are using it to promote a false gospel.
     
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