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It doesn't make sense to assume there is more than one ultimately perfect decree in God.That's a false presumption to how things work as well as my intentions.
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It doesn't make sense to assume there is more than one ultimately perfect decree in God.That's a false presumption to how things work as well as my intentions.
well I guess not if God is an old white guy with a long beard, noBut that doesn't answer the OP.
Where we are concerned I guess I would agree, although I'm not sure how or why that would matter to us if we cannot hear or grasp God's will anyway; it will often appear as if God is maybe going against His will, as Christ revealed?But any change wold be from perfection to imperfection. = God's will is perfect and not free to change.
All that we see is perfect and cannot get any better since it stems from God's eternal decree. We see confusion and misery, God saw that all he created was good (according to his purpose).Where we are concerned I guess I would agree, although I'm not sure how or why that would matter to us if we cannot hear or grasp God's will anyway; it will often appear as if God is maybe going against His will, as Christ revealed?
The question is in error.That is, does God arbitrarily will his nature? Or does his nature determine his will?
Are you a artifact hunterGod's will is "bound" by his nature or who he is. He is not constrained by any external force. If you ponder this in the content of God is love (1 John 4:8). Even in the Calvinist usage you may sometimes see, God would still be understood to be able to operate within a certain set of parameters, otherwise we enter the Cartesian notion of a deceiver god.
I am enjoying the exchange between you and @Episkopos. It is a good thing to contemplate. Thanks!But any change wold be from perfection to imperfection. = God's will is perfect and not free to change.
BINGO!It doesn't make sense to assume there is more than one ultimately perfect decree in God.
Nothing in his statement implies any of the above.The question is in error.
God is ("I am"), "the same yesterday, today, and forever." Yet the question infers a will for the future that is different tomorrow than today.
Yes, and that is the error.Nothing in his statement implies any of the above.
Sorry, but as usual your posts don't make sense. Trying to get you to elaborate is futile because it becomes even more senseless.Yes, and that is the error.
How so? Please elaborate. That is, if you can stop with your derogatory criticisms.Sorry, but as usual your posts don't make sense. Trying to get you to elaborate is futile because it becomes even more senseless.
My point stands, you made a false implication and assertion against his post.
How so? Please elaborate. That is, if you can stop with your derogatory criticisms.
Otherwise, butt out, go back to school and learn a little more about what you are being critical of. And by the way, my comment was clear and concise.
That's not biblical. Fruit. Kinda tells the whole tale.Saying your posts are senseless is regarding your posts, not your person.
That is, does God arbitrarily will his nature? Or does his nature determine his will?
The problem is, you cannot trust God if his will is not bound by his nature. He could arbitrarily send everyone in heaven to hell, just to prove he can do it. We have faith in God because He is all that his attributes are.I am enjoying the exchange between you and @Episkopos. It is a good thing to contemplate. Thanks!
But here you suggest that freedom is a limitation on our Unlimited God, making "freedom" the wrong term. Choosing perfection exclusively is in itself perfection. However, the mystery of God, is that He alone has the ability to "lower" Himself and remain unscathed in His perfection, adding perfection to perfection, i.e., expanding His tent.
There can be no more or less perfection with God, but He has accomplished to add or make more [of] what is perfect, "just as He is perfect."
However, the mystery of God, is that He alone has the ability to "lower" Himself and remain unscathed in His perfection, adding perfection to perfection, i.e., expanding His tent.
There can be no more or less perfection with God, but He has accomplished to add or make more [of] what is perfect, "just as He is perfect."
That again, assumes change in whom there is no change.The problem is, you cannot trust God if his will is not bound by his nature. He could arbitrarily send everyone in heaven to hell, just to prove he can do it. We have faith in God because He is all that his attributes are.