Why Was Cain’s Sacrifice Rejected by God?

[Nancy]

But it doesn't say that.

No, it doesn't and, good point about the "skins".

 

[CoreIssue]

I got the point, I just don't agree with it.

I don't see how you can dismiss it, but you have every right to if you wish.

 

[CoreIssue]

No, it doesn't and, good point about the "skins".

I already made my argument in a different direction. So I will just ask you question. Why would God just create skin?

The skin of animals has always been used for clothing and other purposes.

 

[Phoneman777]

I understand that fat was separated... Still, the context of Gen 4 suggests as I said. Abel chose the fat (best) of his flock. The verse isn't talking about separating the fat frothe lean.

How do you know it is not talking about that?

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

No. Born again cleanses the spirit, not the heart.

The Holy Spirit did not indwell and cleanse anyone until after the resurrection. That requires requires blood of Christ.

I think the born-again experience rebirths our dead spirits.

 

[Nancy]

I already made my argument in a different direction. So I will just ask you question. Why would God just create skin?

The skin of animals has always been used for clothing and other purposes.

Well, the bible just does not say that God killed an animal although, that is what I tend to think. But then, who can know Him? lol

 

[FHII]

How do you know it is not talking about that?

The context of the verse.

Genesis 4:4 KJV
And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

He brought the firstlings of his flock. He also brought the fat there of. The "there of" is talking about the flock. It's talking about what he brought, not how he offered it.

 

[CoreIssue]

I think the born-again experience rebirths our dead spirits.

There is another way of putting it. Except it is birth, not rebirth.

 

[CoreIssue]

Well, the bible just does not say that God killed an animal although, that is what I tend to think. But then, who can know Him? lol

Agree.

 

[Helen]

I've tried to leave this alone, but I can't. The Bible doesn't say God killed an animal for their hide. It's says God made coats of skin. That's it. It doesn't says any animals were harmed and it doesn't even say they were animals skins.

If they were animal skins, if God made the animals, he certainly can make their skin without the rest of the animal.

Whether or not it was actually animal skins requires a deeper explanation. But I will leave it there for now.

For myself..by 'type' I can't see blood being shed in Eden The Garden Of God.

So I too, doubt if it was animal skins. I believe before Adam sinned he was light, (somewhat life the resurrected body of Jesus) glorified flesh. I believe that when he fell " His eyes were opened "( to THIS realm) and closed to the true depth of the spiritual realm. "and he knew that he was naked", = he had lost the spiritual covering of light..hence God gave him human skin as we have now. We know when we die we shall shed these like coats ... it will be a taking off, even as Adam's was a putting on.

Im sure you will disagree, it is a too far reach for most people who were traditionally told they were animal skins, even though it does not say that, as you pointed out.

 

[FHII]

I don't see how you can dismiss it, but you have every right to if you wish.

I dismiss it because it's not in the Bible.

 

[Helen]

The skin of animals has always been used for clothing and other purposes.

NOT before Eden. I just posted #150

 

[CoreIssue]

NOT before Eden. I just posted #150

The Bible does not state plainly either way.

 

[FHII]

Why would God just create skin?

Read the verse.

Genesis 3:21 KJV
Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

It says he made them. That's different than saying he killed an animal and took them.

 

[Helen]

The Bible does not state plainly either way.

Agree...that's why you are wrong and I am right
No blood shed in Eden ...

I am feeling somewhat lighthearted tonight.
I just put two members on Ignore...and suddenly I find it is a much nicer Site after all!!

 

[Nancy]

Agree...that's why you are wrong and I am right
No blood shed in Eden ...

Lol!

 

[CoreIssue]

Read the verse.

Genesis 3:21 KJV
Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

It says he made them. That's different than saying he killed an animal and took them.

I have. It does not say either way.

 

[CoreIssue]

Agree...that's why you are wrong and I am right
No blood shed in Eden ...

That is an assumption.

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

I notice animal sacrifices were the norm with believers long before Moses. Job and his friends. Abraham, so I wonder if they didn't see something in Abel's sacrifice which he might have gleaned from his parents when God killed an animal to cover their nakedness?

I already made my argument in a different direction. So I will just ask you question. Why would God just create skin?

The skin of animals has always been used for clothing and other purposes.

My guess is that the animals had already started dying--possibly even massive die-offs. God could simply have taken the skins of already dead animals to clothe Adam and Eve.

 

[Helen]

That is an assumption.

As I said in my Edit...I am feeling a bit light hearted tonight.

It is obvious that I have now taken you off Ignore...I like you better now.