9-11 apparently a false flag - what will the next one be?

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In post #21 I totally agreed with you and the OP.

I just do not agree with you over Trump.
No one can say. No one knows.
Time will reveal if he was 'made king' for our good or our harm.

Daniel 2: 21
"And God changeth the times and the seasons: He removeth kings, and setteth up kings. "

Time alone will tell.

Why start arguing?

Maybe I should just sign myself "Jezebel" and not bother to post in your threads any more. ;)

Hi Helen - that's a good verse from Kings. You're right - no one does know for certain about Trump - and I will vote for him in the next election although I don't think that our votes even matter anymore. God allowed me to be incapacitated for several years and I did a lot of research since I couldn't do much else which is why not many people followed the same path - although I have read that some people have had their eyes opened. From my research I learned that the illuminati have control of the news - even Fox who caters to Christians. They control the entertainment industry and education, and of course the banks. I met a teacher who clued me in on how dangerous Common Core is. They essentially keep a file on each child and track them. I haven't read what the purpose for that is yet, but I tend to think that they're looking for people who they can control, and those who are independent-minded may wind up in a FEMA camp. I'm not sure about this and haven't found that in any research, but it was something that I thought may be a possibility. If you read about their goals, they state that they want to flood America with less intelligent migrants (these are NOT my beliefs - it's what they have stated) so they can control these less intelligent people. I think that's why they flooded America with drugs - to thin out the children of the middle class since they are the ones who have the $$ to buy drugs.

When I researched for those years I learned that there are evil spirits assigned to every church and I believe that they're assigned to every Christian forum, every Revival meeting, and anywhere that God brings truth. I haven't studied that in-depth but have heard it taught about Christian churches. Chip Ingram said that he found a goats head across from his church in CA. He learned that local satanists were praying against him. Billy Graham said as he took a ship to evangelize in China he was overcome by a heavy spirit of oppression and depression.

Please take the time to watch this video:

9-11 mural van:
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The police allegedly stopped this van after 9-11 - it was allegedly full of explosives and Mossad agents. The mural has a plane crashing into the towers.

Brakelite showed me Walter Veith's videos and it shows various photos of the twin towers on fire before it happened. You can find his videos online.

I don't think any of us on here are rocket scientists - we seem to be a collection of regular people with average jobs, and average intelligence. The people in these high positions are those trained at the top colleges. They're trained how to manipulate using psychology and other means. If you look back to the history of America, it has had a dark past of testing on its own citizens such as the releasing of gas into NY subways and the CIA giving LSD surreptitiously to its own agents. Is it much a stretch of the imagination that they would have a false flag to reach certain objectives since some of these people are conscienceless and taken over by evil? Look up Skull & Bones - they're dealing with the evil one - there is real intelligent power there. Remember Satan is a fallen cherub, with all the faculties of apparently a highly intelligent spirit.

I dated a guy in MENSA years ago - they're people who operate at a higher level of thinking than the average person. I dealt with people who were some of the worst manipulators I've ever come across. They don't think normally - they're always thinking three steps ahead and they're motives are evil but they do things that manipulate others - and they do it well. They use kindness as a tool; not because they're kind, but because they're manipulating the emotions of others who they want to control. They take action as if they're top chess players and you had to out-think them or they would bury you. I don't know why God allowed me to deal with those evil individuals as it put a lot of strain on me. But it opened my eyes to how highly manipulative people think and act. Maybe that "training ground" was for a reason. You just can't take things for granted that are served up to the public for consumption. There are puppet masters behind the curtain just like Oz.
 
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Personally I do not see you having discernment, sorry, unfortunately, you have been drawn into and caught up in the whole conspiracy network of videos and internet sites some of which who's prime purpose is to promote chaos , misinformation, through Disinformation and Doubt. It purposely overwhelms & swamps people with too much deceptive kinds of information that all different levels of bogus opinions and is untrue, it makes people start to not be able to tell what's real and what is fake.
It makes people lose their ability to sift the facts from falsehoods.
The reality is Donald Trump is a Capitalist and he is a Nationalist. He is not a globalist.
The globalists are the majority in Washington , it is an ideology that most of the politicians are getting behind, and the Globalists are on both sides of the aisle.
The Globalists HATE Trump that is where all of the Insane attacks against Trump are coming from. His winning the presidency has thwarted the Globalists for the time being, who were backing Hillary. It caught them off guard. It is obvious to me you are listening to many Conspiracy & disinformation sites. The fact that a neighbor's unarmed son got shot by the Police does not = a Police state. There are dozens of reasons an unarmed person can get shot by a Cop and it doesn't necessarily mean that it was solely the Cop's fault or that it was done purposely.

We do not live in a Police state at present that is foolishness to say that. Try to go to China or North Korea and criticize the governments there and see what happens. There is a big difference.

It's your privilege to think what you want - it's mine to think what I want and I don't see you applying discernment; otherwise you would have the foresight to see the Hegelian Dialectic being played on America. But the illuminati depends on people like you to fall for their tricks. They know what works. The Holy Spirit leads us into all truth and each of us has to follow the path of truth that God is leading us on. Yes some of the information is deep and a lot to consume and sort out - that's why it took me several years of research. I'm sure you've talked to people who weren't ready to hear the gospel.

I have faced a lot of flak for changing my opinion of Trump - at times very vociferously. Look at your reaction. I'm obviously not looking to win any popularity contests for these views. They have come at personal cost to me - but then so did believing in the Bible.

It would be the easy path to follow the crowd and continue to chant "Lock her up! Lock her up!" or "Build the wall! Build the wall!" And proudly wear my MAGA hat. And yet not see her locked up nor a wall built. But the diehards want to keep believing in their savior in spite of seeing evidence to the contrary: a 600% increase in flooding America with migrants to move us into the illuminati-designed NWO; the North American Union. And another NAFTA plan that removes manufacturing from America that Trump is instituting, which is in large part why we have a massive opioid epidemic due to hopelessness. I'm friends with the head of an organization that I belong to; a highly intelligent man who has met with the heads of the HHS about the hopelessness from hollowed-out communities which are then flooded with drugs.

There is so much more. I encourage you to watch the video I gave in its entirety. I wish I could go back to believing that Trump is going to Make America Great Again but I can't anymore than I can believe there isn't a God.

We are in a Police State - you just haven't experienced it yet. Someday I promise you that your eyes will be opened. I used to believe as you did that as long as you're not doing anything wrong nothing will happen to you and I have more reason to believe since my brother-in-law was a cop. There are still many good cops. But you just haven't read what is really going on across America. I too was uninformed at one time. Every phone conversation that you make is stored in a facility at Utah. The government can turn your cell phone on remotely and listen to any conversation you make. Tucker Carlson said he won't allow a cell phone in his bedroom. I had to do a writing piece on the marshall service who can fly overhead and pull all your data from your phone. They're allowed to conduct no-knock raids and they have killed innocent people. They have technology that they can use to see through your walls. Drones are equipped with cameras and they can look in your windows. America has shifted dangerously towards Nazi-style Germany and most Americans are asleep until they experience it.

Read this resource once a day and then come back in a few months and repeat your assertions: The Free Thought Project — Your online news and discussion platform

Follow this blog by attorney John Whitehead: The Rutherford Institute

You remind me of myself a few years ago. I came to the defense of Trump and fought with the best of them. I believe that Clinton and Trump are used to play the Hegelian Dialectic. Always remember that those behind the scenes are highly intelligent people. They've studied psychology and know what works.

Trump is elite. He's aligned with the Jesuits/ Catholic church. We know that the Pope is illuminati. Look at the hall at the vatican:


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Sharing this is very tiring especially since there is so much opposition. All I can say is to pray for discernment and research it in depth. I too wanted badly to believe that we got this independent man in office and he's going to drain the swamp! But he filled his cabinet with CFR, globalists, and war mongers - many people don't want to give up the illusion and face the real facts. He continues to send young Americans into the meat grinder that are America's wars.

You have to research it yourself.

Donald Trump’s New World Order Connections Revealed
 
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Hang on their. Your timing being active since the age of six years old.

I was saved at age 10.

But being active with other people, for as long as I can remember.

Haha - I was tired and gave my age instead of the time I began studying Scripture. I meant to say 40 years.
 

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Well, since you were offended I apologize. I do not believe my comment was disrespectful.

I am not a demolitions expert or civil engineer. Here are some people that are:

9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - Pentagon

Engineers for 9-11 truth, which was started by one man who is an engineer, are lone wolves in their cry for justice. Virtually no other legitimate "engineers" agree with his "theory".

I find it sad that people are making money off lying about 9/11 using conspiracy theories.

Mary

Thank you for the apology. I appreciate it.

I know someone who has witnessed a lot of demolitions who first made that remark in passing to me. It was someone whose opinion I respect.

You're always going to have the slime element that tries to profit off of a tragedy. Before dismissing this, I urge you to take some time to really research it. Have you ever seen the video of Bush Sr. calling directly for the New World Order? I can't vouch for this but here is one such video:

Obama's statement: “But whether people see what’s happening in Ukraine, and Russia’s aggression towards its neighbors in the manner in which it’s financing and arming separatists; to what’s happened in Syria — the devastation that Assad has wrought on his own people; to the failure in Iraq for Sunni and Shia and Kurd to compromise — although we’re trying to see if we can put together a government that actually can function; to ongoing terrorist threats; to what’s happening in Israel and Gaza — part of peoples’ concern is just the sense that around the world the old order isn’t holding and we’re not quite yet to where we need to be in terms of a new order that’s based on a different set of principles,vthat’s based on a sense of common humanity, that’s based on economies that work for all people.”

On February 17, 1950, James Paul Warburg confidently declared to the United States Senate: “We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.

If you watch the video link I gave above you'll hear Trump with your own ears calling for a New World Order. He's elite. He's a globalist. He's got Mnuchin and others in his cabinet that are NWO, CFR. Pastors have sold their soul for a seat at the King's table.

They know that Americans aren't going to go down quietly so they had to find a way to have them willingly give up their liberties. Hence 9-11 a false flag. They're implementing mass delusion. Trump is using it and I'm so disheartened that Christians fail to see that he is saying one thing and doing another.

People have to stop being brainwashed and really open their eyes to what is going on. Trump is furthering the NWO, the North American Union with mass migration in spite of saying the opposite. I couldn't be seen in the ER - wait until it comes to a hospital near you. We're going to be Canada + America + Mexico - will be one. How many recordings have you listened to: Press 1 for English Press 2 for Spanish. He is furthering NAFTA which hollowed out America's manufacturing. He is furthering America's endless wars. He is lying to the American people and many don't want to face it. I didn't want to face it.

The New World Order, By Conquest or Consent

I'm getting tired since it takes awhile to look resources up and share some things I've found. God said "ye shall seek me and find me when ye search for me with all your heart."

I think that truth is that way. If we search for it we'll find it.

This is a quote from the above resource. If you watch one of the videos it will show you a parallel to Hitler and the same system used to forward Trump. I'll leave you with a quote:

"Career politicians make a living learning how to become most electable and how to best appeal to voters. Their ambitions, career and income all depend on it. Depicting yourself as agent of change, or an outsider, is a very obvious tactic of politicians who want to get voted in. Undoubtedly, there are some genuine politicians who bring genuine change for the better. However, at this stage in the game, the general public all over the world has been so massively hoodwinked and deceived for so long that it would be wise to be extremely skeptical of any politician making the “outsider” claim. Importantly, the voting public needs to do its homework to check out and investigate the history and connections of any would-be leader, especially outsider Trump, or insider Trump – however you look at him."



 
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It's your privilege to think what you want - it's mine to think what I want and I don't see you applying discernment; otherwise you would have the foresight to see the Hegelian Dialectic being played on America.
I have been very specific as to what I was referring to & now you continue to add other things that I was not commenting upon & you are tying the wrong things together imo. I only brought up the discernment thing because the fact that in order to bolster or validate your CT views you brought in some anedotal story that some woman walks up to you and said you had discernment. Sorry that is meaningless & the only reason you would bring it into the thread is to validate your own opinions.
Specifically I stated that I disagree with your view that 911 was a false flag and the CT views that Trump is an illuminati globalist - that is silly imo. I do my own research continually But I do not live submerged in the conspiracy theory internet world. You are under deception imo & promoting it to others which is unfortunate as there are enough confused deceived people who believe in complete nonsense in this world.
 

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Thank you for the apology. I appreciate it.

I know someone who has witnessed a lot of demolitions who first made that remark in passing to me. It was someone whose opinion I respect.

You're always going to have the slime element that tries to profit off of a tragedy. Before dismissing this, I urge you to take some time to really research it. Have you ever seen the video of Bush Sr. calling directly for the New World Order? I can't vouch for this but here is one such video:

Obama's statement: “But whether people see what’s happening in Ukraine, and Russia’s aggression towards its neighbors in the manner in which it’s financing and arming separatists; to what’s happened in Syria — the devastation that Assad has wrought on his own people; to the failure in Iraq for Sunni and Shia and Kurd to compromise — although we’re trying to see if we can put together a government that actually can function; to ongoing terrorist threats; to what’s happening in Israel and Gaza — part of peoples’ concern is just the sense that around the world the old order isn’t holding and we’re not quite yet to where we need to be in terms of a new order that’s based on a different set of principles,vthat’s based on a sense of common humanity, that’s based on economies that work for all people.”

On February 17, 1950, James Paul Warburg confidently declared to the United States Senate: “We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.

If you watch the video link I gave above you'll hear Trump with your own ears calling for a New World Order. He's elite. He's a globalist. He's got Mnuchin and others in his cabinet that are NWO, CFR. Pastors have sold their soul for a seat at the King's table.

They know that Americans aren't going to go down quietly so they had to find a way to have them willingly give up their liberties. Hence 9-11 a false flag. They're implementing mass delusion. Trump is using it and I'm so disheartened that Christians fail to see that he is saying one thing and doing another.

People have to stop being brainwashed and really open their eyes to what is going on. Trump is furthering the NWO, the North American Union with mass migration in spite of saying the opposite. I couldn't be seen in the ER - wait until it comes to a hospital near you. We're going to be Canada + America + Mexico - will be one. How many recordings have you listened to: Press 1 for English Press 2 for Spanish. He is furthering NAFTA which hollowed out America's manufacturing. He is furthering America's endless wars. He is lying to the American people and many don't want to face it. I didn't want to face it.

The New World Order, By Conquest or Consent

I'm getting tired since it takes awhile to look resources up and share some things I've found. God said "ye shall seek me and find me when ye search for me with all your heart."

I think that truth is that way. If we search for it we'll find it.

This is a quote from the above resource. If you watch one of the videos it will show you a parallel to Hitler and the same system used to forward Trump. I'll leave you with a quote:

"Career politicians make a living learning how to become most electable and how to best appeal to voters. Their ambitions, career and income all depend on it. Depicting yourself as agent of change, or an outsider, is a very obvious tactic of politicians who want to get voted in. Undoubtedly, there are some genuine politicians who bring genuine change for the better. However, at this stage in the game, the general public all over the world has been so massively hoodwinked and deceived for so long that it would be wise to be extremely skeptical of any politician making the “outsider” claim. Importantly, the voting public needs to do its homework to check out and investigate the history and connections of any would-be leader, especially outsider Trump, or insider Trump – however you look at him."
Your welcome.....:rolleyes:

DEBUNK #1: Government employees can NOT keep a secret. If 9/11 was a conspiracy LOT'S of people would be talking. NO ONE is talking.

DEBUNK #2: MULTIPLE other demolition experts laugh at the conspiracy theorist and have said it was NOT a controlled demolition and it would have been IMPOSSIBLE to pull off the way the conspiracy theorist have said it happened. The appearance of a controlled explosion is called "pancaking".....look it up!!!

DEBUNK #3: It would have taken weeks, if not months, to plant thousands of pounds of explosives in the buildings. NO ONE EVER saw anything....NO ONE.....EVER!!!

DEBUNK #4: The original link you provided suggest no planes even hit the towers. That is completely and utterly ridiculous nonsense that would only be suggested and believed by a delusional person. The original link you provide lacks credibility just based on that ignorant delusional statement.

I could go on but sadly nothing will change your mind.

Mary
 

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I met someone who fully believed that the 911 was a false flag and the pics & images of the Jets hitting was was a sophisticated hologram and no one could convince him otherwise. Boy that false flag must have had 10s of 1000's of extras, I wonder what they paid them????? o_O It is outrageous what people get lead or convince themselves to believe and not a wonder that people are lead astray by false prophets, doctrines of demons and wolves in sheep's clothing.
 
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All of it. There is no way that the towers came down with two commercial airliners. It has been many years since I did a ton of research online about all of it. Interviews with the FDNY...faces blotted out and voices disguised. All of it did not make sense to me after reading, seeing, hearing the things I did. Way too much to put on here, not to mention I no longer have these sites to refer you to. I put NOTHING past government, nothing...
Hi Nancy,

2 Simple questions: Why crash airplanes into the towers if the explosives were already planted in the building and ready to ignite?

It would have taken thousands of pounds of explosives and months of secrecy to plant the explosives. Why did NO ONE see the explosives or the people planting them?

Curious Mary
 
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Hi Nancy,

2 Simple questions: Why crash airplanes into the towers if the explosives were already planted in the building and ready to ignite?

It would have taken thousands of pounds of explosives and months of secrecy to plant the explosives. Why did NO ONE see the explosives or the people planting them?

Curious Mary

To place blame on others...
Inside jobs happen all the time. No one "sees" what is hidden from them. Look how long these militant Muslims take to plan out their attacks, I'm sure they are NOT planned overnight. I just plain do not trust this or any government in this world and put nothing past them. I am not claiming to be right here, but I am claiming to have changed my stance on some of the information or lack thereof. So, yes, it could have happened exactly as the "media" told us it did.
Trust No Man... :) See-I win either way, ahaha! j/k.
 
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To place blame on others...
Inside jobs happen all the time. No one "sees" what is hidden from them. Look how long these militant Muslims take to plan out their attacks, I'm sure they are NOT planned overnight. I just plain do not trust this or any government in this world and put nothing past them. I am not claiming to be right here, but I am claiming to have changed my stance on some of the information or lack thereof. So, yes, it could have happened exactly as the "media" told us it did.
Trust No Man... :) See-I win either way, ahaha! j/k.
It was IMPOSSIBLE to plant that many explosive's in the towers without being seen....simply IMPOSSIBLE!!

I only trust what is possible.....:)
 
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It was IMPOSSIBLE to plant that many explosive's in the towers without being seen....simply IMPOSSIBLE!!

I only trust what is possible.....:)
I am not so sure, there is Maintence work, building work, going on all the time in office buildings - you get enough people on board and things can be well hidden under floor boards, within the ceiling recesses - granted it would have to be done in a very clever and maticulous way, but it would not be impossible - just for the record though, I am on the fence with this one. I do believe that there are powers that be who are influencing people in power, and nothing would surprise me in this world as to how far people would go in order to gain the control they want-I am also aware that Satan in well able to manipulate in order to gain what he ultimately wants within this world, and he is able to use many different people in all walks of life.

I find your end comment really interesting from a Christian perspective ' you only trust what is possible ' personally faith in stills in us the need to often trust in what is impossible !
Christians have a glimpse of what is really going on in this world, a spiritual battle in the heavenlies ( Ephesians chapter 6 ) They also have amazing view into the future through the book of revelation, although I believe we have been living in that insight for the last 2000 years - people would have believed that ' no one ' could have risen from the dead and walk amongst people - but Jesus did !
and yet, many today don't believe that - because they cannot see him and can only go on what they think they know!

I think that if we could actually ' see ' all that is hidden in this world, all the behind scenes of how events have unfolded- all the corruption over the years , I think all of us would be amazed at how blind we often are - within Gods word we do have glimpses, because God does not want us to be Ignorent becasue we, as Christians are included in that battle as we pray and intercede for this world and the people within it- but also we are called not to live in fear.

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I have been very specific as to what I was referring to & now you continue to add other things that I was not commenting upon & you are tying the wrong things together imo. I only brought up the discernment thing because the fact that in order to bolster or validate your CT views you brought in some anedotal story that some woman walks up to you and said you had discernment. Sorry that is meaningless & the only reason you would bring it into the thread is to validate your own opinions.
Specifically I stated that I disagree with your view that 911 was a false flag and the CT views that Trump is an illuminati globalist - that is silly imo. I do my own research continually But I do not live submerged in the conspiracy theory internet world. You are under deception imo & promoting it to others which is unfortunate as there are enough confused deceived people who believe in complete nonsense in this world.

I can add any comment that I want - you're behaving as if you can dictate to another. Check your halo and pride at the door because I buckle to no one.

In response to your statement: I have faith in my own discernment. It doesn't usually steer me wrong. I never asked you to have faith in my discernment and I never stated that my conclusions were sacrosanct - I told you to research yourself. I spent time providing links but you probably didn't watch the video or read the links. That's on you. I used to think as you did which is why I patiently took time to answer you. Those at my bible study aren't fooled by him but there are many who continue to look the other way when he exhibits nothing but unchristian behavior. Trump said on a video that police should rough people up - and you find that Christian behavior? Maybe you'll change when police beat YOU up. There are many nice police but they just set a police dog on a man near us and it bit him until it killed him - think if you can, what he felt as a shepherd tore his flesh apart; I'm sure it was a slow and agonizing death; mercifully I hope the police dog sunk it's teeth into his jugular and death came quickly. Those type of police are being empowered by Trump. They shot and killed a black man down the street from me but what's another black man right? Let's go rah rah rah with savior Trump! Rough em up!!! If you can't see the correlation with Hitler you haven't studied Nazi Germany and how the masses can be deluded into evil. Nurses actually thought that they were providing a good service as they murdered children and led others to evil doctors to be experimented on.

Mass delusion. Make Germany Great Again! Kill the Jews! Kill the infirm! All led by a charismatic leader.

They're a few examples of many. True Christians don't think or accept that. "By their fruit ye shall know them..." Many are fooled because Trump does talk a good game, but it's your privilege to continue to look the other way.

Matthew 7:21-23 - Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Trump even stated that he's unsure who knocked down the World Trade Center: Trump on 9/11 during campaign trail: 'You'll find out who really knocked down The World Trade Center' -- Sott.net

"There are enough confused deceived people who believe in complete nonsense in this world..." My oh my and YOU are the ONLY ONE who isn't deceived? Excuse me. Move over Christ - make room for another king. Your root of pride is on display son.

Romans 12:3 - For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think [of himself] more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

You can think what you want about 9-11 and Trump - I didn't create this thread for you and I don't have to prove anything to you or even answer your questions especially since you've become rude and I don't think that belongs on a Christian forum. You claim to follow Christ? You aren't even following the basics of the faith. I haven't mistreated you one time but because you hold different beliefs you attack me, thinking that your view alone is correct. Maybe you should go back to the basics to see how you're supposed to treat others. I'll discuss this in an intelligent and respectful manner but I draw the line when someone gets discourteous and abusive.

Ephesians 4:32 - And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

1 Peter 3:8-12 - Finally, [be ye] all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, [be] pitiful, [be] courteous:

I'll leave you with this: Satan operates in deception. The whole world lies in wickedness and deception. When I first believed the veil was removed, and I could "see" the truth of Scripture but only a little at a time. But as soon as that happened I was attacked by the evil one. Doubts assailed me - terrible doubts and I had to fight for faith. I went through things like the "Slough of Despond" in Pilgrims Progress. I don't know how others came to the faith, only how it happened to me. Satan didn't give up.
 
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Hasatan has some supernatural ability to place a veil over mens minds. I believe that he continues to place veils or deception over mens minds. That is my personal belief but I have seen Christians who were deceived and there were times when I was deceived. For example: We went to a church one time and I had an uneasy feeling about the church; I don't know why. I wish that I had listened to those feelings. I think it was my discernment or God or the Holy Spirit, I'm not sure. I dealt with the leaders who badly mistreated someone. I confronted them and they arrogantly told me that "God put them in those positions and it was they who decided things in that church." I was younger then but I knew that they were off. We left the church. Within a few years the leadership found another victim: apparently the arrogant pastor and he was out. I learned more and more to rely on those gut-feelings that I believe was the Holy Spirit. Can I be deceived now? I'd never say never. "Through presumption comes nothing but strife." But in my best judgment I believe that Trump was hand-picked by the illuminati/ Jesuits and he's moving America into the North America Union. If you'd stop listening to what he SAYS and start researching what he DOES you may come to the same conclusion. But in my experience, some people don't want the truth. They'd rather believe sweet lies than hard truths.

Trump's wife said he kept a book about Hitler next to his bed. The same Hitler who said:

If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”
― adolf hitler

We can look back and wonder what on earth the Germans were thinking when they worshipped Hitler and went along with the murder of people simply because they were Jews. He put to death the imperfect. We can look back and wonder what people were thinking when they thought that they had a right to enslave blacks. We can look back and wonder how arrogant could men be thinking that women didn't have the right to vote. In all cases there was mass delusion.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer

I believe that Satan is throwing veils over the minds of some. You're dealing with a highly malignant enemy who is no buffoon. He's had thousands of years to practice his craft. I believe that in some instances you have to search for the truth; not the pablum that is being served up to the masses. The people crafting these false flags are not stupid either: they're the cream of the crop; highly intelligent individuals who know what works to delude. Have you studied psychology or sociology? They have. I talked with a guy one time who was working on how to hypnotize people by reading a book. You're not dealing with stupid people. No one said Satan was stupid - neither are those who he controls.

I speak with a man who is the head of the group that I belong to. He's highly intelligent and can craft arguments that I couldn't conceive of. He holds a Phd and worked in the army for some high level position. He thinks at another level than most people. He's the type of person that is employed in high-level positions who study sociology, and psychology and they find out what works to deceive the masses.

1 John 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

There are people like this NBC reporter who quit and then blew the whistle on how the media deceives the masses:
Confusion can arise when trying to understand why millions of people still tune into mainstream media. Because of this, they (mainstream media) are still having a huge impact on the consciousness of those who watch and surf their platforms for information about what’s happening in our world.

That being said, many have come to the conclusion that mainstream media often does have an agenda, and will push their own version of ‘fake news,’ while at the same time, labeling other narratives, perspectives, and evidence as the real ‘fake news.’ What’s required in this time of confusion is doing our own research, and seeking independent media sources to better understand our world.

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Are people even reading for information anymore? Or are they simply looking at headlines on the internet while watching T.V. news broadcasts? Are we seeing what fits our narratives as opposed to what’s challenging them?

The evidence that what we have been told by mainstream media is either false or lacking the full picture comes in the form of official declassified documentation, real world examples, and from multiple award winning mainstream media journalists who have committed the rest of their lives to letting people know how the media has deceived people.

Those who are participating in actions they know are deceptive to people and that does not create a better world are having a change of heart, and as a result they are speaking out. We are also seeing this with many soldiers returning from modern wars, realizing they themselves are tools of destruction rather than forces of peace.
 
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One person to speak out recently is NBC/MSNBC reporter William Arkin, a longtime and well-known military reporter who is best known for his groundbreaking, three-part Washington Post series in 2010. He co-reported it with two-time Pulitzer winner Dana Priest on how sprawling, unaccountable, and omnipotent the national security state has become in the post-9/11 era. This report dealt with black budget operations, programs that not even the commander in chief nor Congress has any idea about.

It is ironic that the U.S. should be fighting monstrously expensive wars allegedly to bring democracy to those countries, when it itself can no longer claim to be called a democracy when trillions, and I mean thousands of billions of dollars have been spent on projects which both congress and the commander in chief know nothing about. – Paul Hellyer, Former Canadian Defence Minister

Their investigation lasted approximately two years and concluded that America’s classified world has “become so large, so unwieldy and so secretive that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs, how many programs exist within it or exactly how many agencies do the same work.”

This was many years ago, and the latest developments with regards to these programs has come in the form of $21 trillion missing dollars from the Department of Defence, and the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Michigan State professor and Economist Mark Skidmore, along with former assistant secretary of Housing and Urban Development Catherine Austin Fitts found that this money was going towards black budget programs as well. Fitts has also been quite outspoken about a secret space program.

You can read more about that particular story here.

With regards to the report by Arkin,

When that three-part investigative series, titled “Top Secret America,” was published, I hailed it as one of the most important pieces of reporting of the war on terror, because while “we chirp endlessly about the Congress, the White House, the Supreme Court, the Democrats and Republicans, this is the Real U.S. Government: functioning in total darkness, beyond elections and parties, so secret, vast and powerful that it evades the control or knowledge of any one person or even any organization.”(source)

This is one of many proofs of the Deep State. It’s been referenced by countless politicians and academics throughout history.

Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day. – Theodore Roosevelt

The most recent politicians to reference it were Syrian president Bashar Al-Assad, as well as Vladimir Putin. Western mainstream media will have you believe this narrative as being completely ‘fake,’ despite the fact that many western politicians themselves have also shared this perspective.

William Arkin Speaks Out Against NBC & MSNBC
Arkin recently blasted NBC News along with MSNBC news in an email for “becoming captive and subservient to the national security state, reflexively pro-war in the name of stopping President Donald Trump, and now the prime propaganda instrument of the War Machine’s promotion of militarism and imperialism.” This is something, based on my research, mainstream media has always been. It’s why they were created in the first place.

Arkin stated that, as a result of this, “the national security establishment not only hasn’t issued a beat but indeed has gained dangerous strength, and “is ever more autonomous and practically impervious to criticism.”

Another great quote comes to mind here,

“The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government, which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation . . . The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both parties . . . [and] control the majority of the newspapers and magazines in this country. They use the columns of these papers to club into submission or drive out of office public officials who refuse to do the bidding of the powerful corrupt cliques which compose the invisible government. It operates under cover of a self-created screen [and] seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.” (source)– Mayor of New York City from 1918-1925

Arkin has worked with NBC and MSNBC since 2016, and it’s great to see that he’s leaving due to the fact that these outlets have become nothing but the “central propaganda arm of the CIA, the Pentagon, and the FBI. This network alone consists of former CIA, NSA and Pentagon officials as news analysts. MSNBC host and former Bush-Cheney Communications Director Nicole Wallace is one of multiple great examples.

Establishment Media Mouthpieces
MSNBC’s star national security reporter Ken Dilanian was widely mocked by media outlets for years for being an uncritical CIA stenographer before he became a beloved NBC/MSNBC reporter, and let’s not forget CNN’s Anderson Cooper’s connections to the CIA.

Operation Mockingbird, a CIA program to infiltrate mainstream media and use it to influence the minds of the masses decades ago, seems to be in full effect today, at a larger scale than anyone can possibly imagine.

In early 2018, NBC hired former CIA chief John Brennan to serve as a “senior national security and intelligence analyst.”

A declassified document from the CIA archives in the form of a letter from a CIA task force addressed to the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency details the close relationship that exists between the CIA and mainstream media and academia. The document states that the CIA task force “now has relationships with reporters from every major wire service, newspaper, news weekly, and television network in the nation,” and that “this has helped us turn some ‘intelligence failure’ stories into ‘intelligence success” stories,’ and has contributed to the accuracy of countless others.” Furthermore, it explains how the agency has “persuaded reporters to postpone, change, hold, or even scrap stories that could have adversely affected national security interests or jeopardized sources and methods.”

The Email
Again, all of this lead to Arkin publishing a critique of NBC and MSNBC in the form of an email he sent to multiple outlets, including the Intercept where I first came across this story.

You can read it in its entirety below.

My expertise, though seeming to be all the more central to the challenges and dangers we face, also seems to be less valued at the moment. And I find myself completely out of synch with the network, being neither a day-to-day reporter nor interested in the Trump circus. …

To me there is also a larger problem: though they produce nothing that resembles actual safety and security, the national security leaders and generals we have are allowed to do their thing unmolested. Despite being at “war,” no great wartime leaders or visionaries are emerging. There is not a soul in Washington who can say that they have won or stopped any conflict. And though there might be the beloved perfumed princes in the form of the Petraeus’ and Wes Clarks’, or the so-called warrior monks like Mattis and McMaster, we’ve had more than a generation of national security leaders who sadly and fraudulently have done little of consequence. And yet we (and others) embrace them, even the highly partisan formers who masquerade as “analysts”. We do so ignoring the empirical truth of what they have wrought: There is not one county in the Middle East that is safer today than it was 18 years ago. Indeed the world becomes ever more polarized and dangerous. …

Windrem again convinced me to return to NBC to join the new investigative unit in the early days of the 2016 presidential campaign. I thought that the mission was to break through the machine of perpetual war acceptance and conventional wisdom to challenge Hillary Clinton’s hawkishness. It was also an interesting moment at NBC because everyone was looking over their shoulder at Vice and other upstarts creeping up on the mainstream. But then Trump got elected and Investigations got sucked into the tweeting vortex, increasingly lost in a directionless adrenaline rush, the national security and political version of leading the broadcast with every snow storm. And I would assert that in many ways NBC just began emulating the national security state itself – busy and profitable. No wars won but the ball is kept in play.
 

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I’d argue that under Trump, the national security establishment not only hasn’t missed a beat but indeed has gained dangerous strength. Now it is ever more autonomous and practically impervious to criticism. I’d also argue, ever so gingerly, that NBC has become somewhat lost in its own verve, proxies of boring moderation and conventional wisdom, defender of the government against Trump, cheerleader for open and subtle threat mongering, in love with procedure and protocol over all else (including results). I accept that there’s a lot to report here, but I’m more worried about how much we are missing. Hence my desire to take a step back and think why so little changes with regard to America’s wars. …

In our day-to-day whirlwind and hostage status as prisoners of Donald Trump, I think – like everyone else does – that we miss so much. People who don’t understand the medium, or the pressures, loudly opine that it’s corporate control or even worse, that it’s partisan. Sometimes I quip in response to friends on the outside (and to government sources) that if they mean by the word partisan that it is New Yorkers and Washingtonians against the rest of the country then they are right.

For me I realized how out of step I was when I looked at Trump’s various bumbling intuitions: his desire to improve relations with Russia, to denuclearize North Korea, to get out of the Middle East, to question why we are fighting in Africa, even in his attacks on the intelligence community and the FBI. Of course he is an ignorant and incompetent impostor. And yet I’m alarmed at how quick NBC is to mechanically argue the contrary, to be in favor of policies that just spell more conflict and more war. Really? We shouldn’t get out Syria? We shouldn’t go for the bold move of denuclearizing the Korean peninsula? Even on Russia, though we should be concerned about the brittleness of our democracy that it is so vulnerable to manipulation, do we really yearn for the Cold War? And don’t even get me started with the FBI: What? We now lionize this historically destructive institution?

Arkin has joined many others to blow the whistle on how all of this works, and how mainstream media as “become ground zero for these political pathologies of militarism and servitude to security state agencies.”

A Few More Examples
Dr. Udo Ulfkotte is a top German journalist and editor and has been for more than two decades.He went on the record stating that he was forced to publish the works of intelligence agents under his own name, also mentioning that noncompliance would result in him losing his job. Not long ago, he made an appearance on RT news Stating that:

“I’ve been a journalist for about 25 years, and I was educated to lie, to betray, and not to tell the truth to the public. But seeing right now within the last months how the German and American media tries to bring war to the people in Europe, to bring war to Russia — this is a point of no return and I’m going to stand up and say it is not right what I have done in the past, to manipulate people, to make propaganda against Russia, and it is not right what my colleagues do and have done in the past because they are bribed to betray the people, not only in Germany, all over Europe.”
NBC journalist quits then blows the whistle on how mainstream media deceives the public

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You do know that Trump is continuing the wars that he promised he would end and mass migration has continued 600% under him and he's stacked his cabinet with globalists?

You do know who the 'father of lies' is and who is of his 'father the devil'?

Here is a compilation of the list of lies Trump has made:

Every false claim Donald Trump has made as president

I have other things that I have to do and cannot devote any more time to this, especially since you're being mean-spirited. If you take the time and research carefully, you may reach the same conclusion. I never ask anyone to believe me, but point them to another viewpoint. They have the free will to research for themselves and arrive at their own conclusions.

Revelation 12:9 - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
 
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Personally I do not see you having discernment, sorry
Awesome op, ty, even the firefighters at GZ all hollered "911 inside job" practically from day one, they had a patch made that says that too now, in one division anyway i guess. If the financial shorting the airline and the insurance company and all the warnings to so many of the...impending? passengers, ticket holders, that chose to not fly that day (still an all-time record for the most cancellations of non-refundable tickets in one day, prolly won't ever be broken i guess), and the missing frames from the one Pentagon video that was released, or the refusal to release any of the others, or the lying about there being no others when there were like 12 others, or the doctored "official" video of one of the airplanes in NY, or, or, or
 
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