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Featured 9-11 apparently a false flag - what will the next one be?

Discussion in 'Current Events & Politics Forum' started by Soverign Grace, May 10, 2019.

  1. Soverign Grace

    Soverign Grace Well-Known Member

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    #1 I can't locate the statements right now but if you research you'll find that some who claimed that no plane flew into the building were scooped up by the FBI and then changed their story.

    #2 Opinions are as different as people. I trust the person who personally witnessed many demolitions and made the offhand remark that the buildings collapsed as if done by demolition. They are no conspiracy theorist and didn't research it to be swayed one way or another. It was just that: an honest offhand remark.

    #3 How do you know with certainty how long it takes to plant explosives - are you a demolitions expert? Someone could surreptitiously do it IMO. But it's something that you can research.

    #4 That's your opinion that you believe that it's utterly ridiculous nonsense that would only be suggested and believed by a delusional person. Funny: my best friend said that about me when I told her I became a Christian. I hold the opinion that the reverse is true.

    I could go on but sadly it won't change your mind. Looks like a stalemate.

    Each of us has differing experiences throughout our lives: we work at various places, alongside different people, have varying levels of intelligence, different levels of education, move in different circles, and many other variables too numerous to recount.

    When people become heated about an issue I think that's a sign to stop discussion and that's what has happened here. Every single person should research for themselves and never take another's word for or against an issue. But from my experience, sometimes the truth is buried under a mountain of lies. But it's up to each person to look for the truth no matter where it leads them. I've read the statement that those who don't remember the past are destined to repeat it. We would do well to remember how the masses of the Germans were deceived. THE MASSES. Those planning false flags know all the tricks and possess a cunning intellect. If you've ever studied psychopathy you'd see how those types often function in high level positions, not just as mass murderers. Like functioning alcoholics there are functioning psychopaths. I'll leave you with this article:

    Psychopaths Rule the World:

    "Masters of Manipulation": Psychopaths Rule The World - Global Research
     
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    Soverign Grace Well-Known Member

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    Very good insight and analogy Rita.
     
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    Nancy Well-Known Member

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    I must say SG, all you have written here pretty much covers much of what I was very into for years. It was so interesting I decided to actually sit and watch C-SPAN...you want to talk boring??!:eek: lol. If somebody wants the truth as to who actually voted for or against something, other than Facebook Memes :rolleyes: , they must do their own homework. Cable News is all for profit. They pander to their bases and are told what to report, and...how to report it...And do NOT get me started on Blackwater! Lol.
    It has been quite a few years since I have pulled myself away more and more from politics. Since Reagan, the Republicans started to pander to the conservative Christians, I have heard (and might just try to look it up) the reason they wanted them for their base is due to how a group of Christians reacted to something Reagan said about God. His adviser at the time in, I believe '81 recognized the reaction and since then, took off with it. Talk the talk and you are in! Matters not if they truly ARE Christians as long as they say the right words. It has morphed into Republican=Christian/Moral Majority and Democrat=baby killing/God hating homos- which, BTW are both wedge issues and have been for decades...why do you think Roe v Wade is still in effect after all these decades? Especially when you think of the time where Republicans had control of House, Senate AND Executive branches in Bush II Admin.?? They would lose a pretty big chunk of their base with no wedge issues...
    I do have a problem with any US President that would speak against Israel. We can be one or two issue voters and let the rest go by the wayside, and STILL the issues we vote against persist :/
    Anyhow, you touched on many things I myself have done a long time ago...this is a dark world and getting darker everyday. The affairs of this world do not consume me any longer...I was quite passionate about it! Haha! Now, that passion has turned toward the things of God ♥ And, all we have to do is open His Word to catch the news :)
     
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    tzcho2 Well-Known Member

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    People are not connecting the right dots.
     
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    My pride?? because I've dared to say it's all CT nonsense? where have a dictated to you or anyone? I've given my opinion period.
    I've never lifted myself up and I'm not the one who said some lady said I had discernment to try to add to my credibility.
     
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    Soverign Grace Well-Known Member

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    There is so much deception in politics Nancy that I actually hate them. Once you go down the rabbit hole it gets pretty dark and I don't have the stomach for it. But I believe that as Christians we have a duty to hold to the truth and I don't want to be deceived. Politics are as old as Christ's day when the Pharisees sought to put Him to death. Liars hate the truth. But you're right - they learn what words to say to evoke a specific reaction and Christians fall for the hook many times. Other people don't want the truth because it dashes their hopes, and challenges their preconceived notions.

    When I was in college I did a report on the Kitty Genovese syndrome, where dozens of people sat by as a young woman was murdered in the street. How could that many people sit by and hear those piteous screams? Why didn't someone break through the delusion and help that woman? From memory it's called "Bystander Apathy" - it's a psychological phenomena. The high-functioning liars/ psychopaths study these things and utilize them to evoke specific reactions among the public. I urge everyone to read the article link above "Psychopaths Rule the World." It may open a few eyes.

    Your'e right that the world is growing darker by the day. It's to the point where I get weak in the knees reading the news. One of the biggest things that bother me is how these evil individuals have control of education. They've been pushing the most devilish garbage the unregenerate mind can conceive. It makes me see that we can only do whatever small part that we can and then pray because they have their hooks in education, media, entertainment, politics, and even in the church. Scripture warns us to "not be ignorant of the devil's devices."

    In bible study the pastor said to focus on Christ first. And I think that has merit here. I think we have a duty to share what we find and it's up to each person to pray and ask God to show them the truth. And the rest is left up to God.

    Heaven looks better to me all the time because these days are dark. In the end the only one that we can rely on is Christ in the face of the evil that has come upon the world. Job 5:12 reads: "He disappointeth the devices of the crafty, so that their hands cannot perform their enterprise." We have to hold onto that and our faith.
     
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    Nancy Well-Known Member

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    Voting was something I had done without fail. And, since I see the "cares of this world" infringing on my own focus on The Lord, I have decided to not vote, simply pray for whom ever God puts in that office. The electoral vote is more important than the peoples...many of these people vote in name recognition only, having no idea what their local Reps. have or have not voted on...for or against. I can say most would be surprised to know how their pet politicians vote.
    Good points. SG
     
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    Your source the Centre for Global Research is a Far Left conspiracy site out of Montreal Quebec. It belongs to michel Chossuduvosky who is a prof from u of ottawa . He is the Canadian version of Noam Chomsky. Chossuduvosky is anti-Semitic, he is a Holocaust denier and blames the Jews for 911. He's a left-wing Conspiracy theory author, who is anti-Jew and is pro- Islam and anti-America, & pro-Palestinian. It turns out Chossuduvosky the CT Professor Chossuduvosky who is a prolific CT writer who along with his colleagues spews out all the hate towards the "evil" American government , he has questionable political allies & supports Hamas according to article by Adara Press & B'nai B'rth is not fond of him either. "B'nai Brith Canada files complaint over 'wild theories' that blame Jews for 9/11"

    Zionist ADL Attacks Scholar Michel Chossudovsky
    Why would any sane, reasonable human being deny the Holocaust? & why would any Christians swallow anything that proceeds from that kind of deceived mind?

    Michel Chossudovsky and Imam Rauf, co-supporters of Iran and Hamas. Providing cover and enlisting support for US foreign policy (Part 12)
    "Michel Chossudovsky and Imam Rauf, co-supporters of Iran and Hamas. Providing cover and enlisting support for US foreign policy (Part 12)"


    U of O professor accused of hosting anti-Semitic website (Page 1 of 2) - Newspapers.com
    U of O professor accused of hosting anti-Semitic website (Page 2 of 2) - Newspapers.com
     
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    Whole building off limits the prior weekend, unusual unmarked vans going into the basement all weekend, something like that, i forget now
     
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    bbyrd009 Groper

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    bro i got quotes for that, saved, if you like
    stop playin k
     
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    :rolleyes:
    got quotes for this too, try me bro
     
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    funny, i was just thinkin about putting her on "follow" again!
    Thank Abba for ppl who disagree i guess :)
     
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    curious why you deem them Muslims when the very first page of the Qur'an condemns them for conflating violence with Islam?
     
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    ha you go mog
    and google that closed for a weekend van thingy if you want
     
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    Witness!
     
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    "Ego" i guess
     
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    Trying to shut me up? What an ego you have. I couldn't care less what you think, or what you post about me.
     
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    The Conspiracy Fan Club in action!
     
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    ?
    tryna get you to say something--"try me"--is trying to get you to shut up?
    How does that work?

    tz, the Headless Horsewoman lol
     
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    aw, sorry bro, you don't even know what the subject is there?
    ESL maybe? I'll make allowances, my bad ok

    about 911 that is strictly "in the world" to me, i couldn't care less and have no idea what the truth is, too
     
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