Can a Christian have a demon?

[Enoch111]

At the risk of sounding simplistic, I think it's possible for a Christian to have a demon. There's the demon of addiction, whether it be drugs, alcohol, pornography, etc. We all go through spiritual battles.

We should not play fast and loose with identifying demons. Demons are spirit beings who will use drugs, alcohol, pornography etc. to try and destroy people, but those items themselves are not demons. Demons can only take possession of those who do not have the indwelling Holy Spirit. But they can certainly attack Christians in various ways. Their companions are the hierarchies of evil spirits listed in Ephesians 6, and God has provided Christians with the spiritual armour to withstand their attacks.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I take it you believe that the Book of Revelation isn't inspired; because chapter 7 is clear on the fact that in the last days, there will be such a thing as a purebred Jew; of every tribe of Israel.

Pure as to Israel (Servants of God) I would say and a Christian nonetheless to be sure to be sure, as how can one who rejects our Lord and Saviour come from the other side like ? a fool who does not know who Christ Jesus truly is ? No ! never could such a one who is not born again know the Lord.
Jesus disciples were what's known as true Israelites in fact and all who reject our Lord and Saviour are of Satan, as all that they do the works of man and are not saved.

You can't have a purebred Jew, your can have a pure Israelite as was the case of Nathaniel in fact, as our Lord said this and never said such high praise of anyone else.
Nathaniel is the best Israelite their can be and bingo he knew Jesus was the Christ directly because as all Jesus pointed out to him. now if you know what Jesus said of Nathaniel you would know that fact and anyone who does not understand what was said to Nathaniel and is not blown away by such, must not be born again in fact. because it's the Key !
You see it's not about worldly works or race when Jesus came, it's all about the Holy Spirit and such is open to all, it's a free gift to all and it's got nothing to do with ones so called race or bloodline.
You have to remember that their is no Jew or Gentile as to the ones who are in Christ and if anyone thinks that their is a difference, such surly can not be in Christ.

 

[MetalMike]

We should not play fast and loose with identifying demons. Demons are spirit beings who will use drugs, alcohol, pornography etc. to try and destroy people, but those items themselves are not demons. Demons can only take possession of those who do not have the indwelling Holy Spirit. But they can certainly attack Christians in various ways. Their companions are the hierarchies of evil spirits listed in Ephesians 6, and God has provided Christians with the spiritual armour to withstand their attacks.

That was the intent of my post. I'm not in disagreement with you.

 

[ScottA]

I've always heard it taught that the holy spirit and a demon cannot inhabit the same person, but I've re-thought that teaching. I recently happened across a youtube video by Derek Prince who said that he has delivered many Christians from demons. I recently read a book "Deliver us from Evil" by Don Basham who said the same thing.

I have encountered some Christians whose behavior was completely the opposite of Christ's. They were critical, faultfinding, and a few did outright evil. So as I listened to Derek Prince's sermon, he said that the worst demons were the "religious" demons. I made me wonder if that was what was operating in churches and on forums.

I'd like to know what others believe.

The best example we have is that of Peter being overcome and called "Satan" by Jesus. But that was before he had been born again of the spirit of God or received the Holy Spirit.

Some will say that Peter had been washed clean by Jesus and therefore had the Holy Spirit...and yet the Holy Spirit had not been sent yet, not until after Jesus ascended to the Father.

But, no, in fact Jesus had even called Peter "Satan" not long after Peter had also been used by God the Father to correctly identify Jesus as the Christ. This is the way of things for those not yet born again of the spirit of God, but not so of those born again. One born again of the spirit of God is not just "touched" or "overcome" by spirits good or evil, but has died. And that new man born of the spirit of God, is One with God, whom is not vulnerable to such evil. None can enter, none can harm such a one. They have passed from death to life.

So, no, one who has the Holy Spirit cannot have a demon. If one has a demon or is being used by and blown to and fro by many spirits, the Holy Spirit is not in him.

But don't take that to mean that anyone who disagrees with another member of the church, does not have the Holy Spirit. Diversities of opinion among the church are another matter: If a finger does not see eye to eye with a knee, it is not because he has a demon. Don't be silly. It is only if either do not see eye to eye with the Head, that would indicate whether or not a demon has entered the body.

 

[marksman]

1 John 4:4, Mark 3:27 (Jesus is the Omnipotent One).



Evidence for your above statement, please.

I John 4:4 and Mark 3:27

 

[marksman]

The best example we have is that of Peter being overcome and called "Satan" by Jesus. But that was before he had been born again of the spirit of God or received the Holy Spirit.

Some will say that Peter had been washed clean by Jesus and therefore had the Holy Spirit...and yet the Holy Spirit had not been sent yet, not until after Jesus ascended to the Father.

But, no, in fact Jesus had even called Peter "Satan" not long after Peter had also been used by God the Father to correctly identify Jesus as the Christ. This is the way of things for those not yet born again of the spirit of God, but not so of those born again. One born again of the spirit of God is not just "touched" or "overcome" by spirits good or evil, but has died. And that new man born of the spirit of God, is One with God, whom is not vulnerable to such evil. None can enter, none can harm such a one. They have passed from death to life.

So, no, one who has the Holy Spirit cannot have a demon. If one has a demon or is being used by and blown to and fro by many spirits, the Holy Spirit is not in him.

But don't take that to mean that anyone who disagrees with another member of the church, does not have the Holy Spirit. Diversities of opinion among the church are another matter: If a finger does not see eye to eye with a knee, it is not because he has a demon. Don't be silly. It is only if either do not see eye to eye with the Head, that would indicate whether or not a demon has entered the body.

It sounds to me that you are giving us your opinion.

 

[marksman]

At the risk of sounding simplistic, I think it's possible for a Christian to have a demon. There's the demon of addiction, whether it be drugs, alcohol, pornography, etc. We all go through spiritual battles.

I have read that 46% of pastors are hooked on porn.

 

[marksman]

No such thing as a purebred Jew. they are regarded as Hebrews and not a race but come from one Tribe out of many Semitic Tribes and this is about Gods Chosen and when Jesus Christ came that was the end of that, so anyone who rejects Jesus Christ is on Satan, end of story ?

Jesus "is" he King of Israel.

What is it with people who just do not get that fact, no one come to the Father but through his only begotten Son.

What is it with people who reject that Jesus is the Christ, why do they try to look to another ? I would say that they are lost. not to mention any goose that claims too be looking for a people who are lost for Salvation ? I have to ask why look to the Lost.

Jesus Christ being the King of Israel makes all who truly follow in him the true Israelites = (servants of God) they are born again Christians and the water baptised are a people of God = (Judah) fact is that anyone who rejects Jesus Christ, is of Satan. so how can Satan drive out Satan ?

One must come from Jesus Christ only to have the Light of the Father ? so how can one who does not have the Light from Christ Jesus pop up with such power ? fact is such is of Satan in fact leading all astray, so no only they who follow in Jesus Christ are worthy of God, so the fact is that no one can come rejecting Jesus Christ ! such a one is from his Father of lies as Jesus Christ pointed out. not to mention understand about the deceptions that the one who leads the whole world astray = (Satan)

What has all that got to do with the nine gifts of the Spirit? And I have met many purebred Jews.

 

[marksman]

I've just read your op so I'm sure this has already been said but ....can you without a doubt say the "Christians" you've encountered were truly saved? There are many who call themselves Christian but haven't received Christ. Scripture speaks of this, too.

2 Cor 6:14 says "Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?"

That's just talking about human marriage. Believers, the church, we are the bride of Christ. How can anything of satan indwell a child of God? We are indwelt by the Holy Spirit, no way can a demon take up residence.

Believers can, however, be demonized - oppressed - from the outside. But not possessed.

There's nothing scripturally that supports demonic possession of a believer.

There is no direct reference to demon possession of a believer I agree, but at the same time, there is no direct reference to any disciple having anything. Which makes me think that the Gospel stories and Acts is not intended to be a record of the failings and ailments of the disciples apart from Paul's thorn in the flesh whatever that was.

 

[justbyfaith]

You can't have a purebred Jew,

So the following who are mentioned will be of mixed blood (like the Samaritans), in your opinion?

Rev 7:4, And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Rev 7:5, Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:6, Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:7, Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:8, Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Christians can be bound, held captive, and oppressed by demons... as scripture teaches...we war against the powers of darkness daily.....and we are to daily put on the armor of God to withstand their attacks. Actual possession (as seen in "The Exorcist") cannot happen to a born again Christian. Those delivered of demons in the Bible were not again.

 

[ScottA]

It sounds to me that you are giving us your opinion.

I quote the scriptures and it sounds like opinion to you. Cool.

 

[amadeus]

Reading this forum I’ve observed the Jezebel spirit on here. Fellow believers discern who they are: By Grace, Butterfly, Taken. By their fruits ye shall know them.

O my friend, you apparently have not read with understanding what each of these three have shared with us at times here on this forum. Just because a person's beliefs disagree in a measure with your own does NOT make that person a Jezebel. How is a man able to correctly identify another person's fruits, good or evil, without the guidance of the Holy Spirit? You will say that you are guided by the Holy Spirit but likely, so will they. Perhaps it is best in that case to leave such a decision, as to whether their fruits are good or evil to God...

 

[amadeus]

Christians can be bound, held captive, and oppressed by demons... as scripture teaches...we war against the powers of darkness daily.....and we are to daily put on the armor of God to withstand their attacks. Actual possession (as seen in "The Exorcist") cannot happen to a born again Christian. Those delivered of demons in the Bible were not again.

It is good to see you here again. You have been missed!

Perhaps some people who consider themselves as being "born again" are mistaken.

 

[Heart2Soul]

It is good to see you here again. You have been missed!

Perhaps some people who consider themselves as being "born again" are mistaken.

Hi @amadeus...I took a little break. I missed you guys too! I was trying to figure out if the OP meant demon possession or demonic oppression or bondage to a sin that they struggle with in their life. In any case...demons are always out and about trying to cause God's children to stumble and fall away.

 

[Heart2Soul]

The best example we have is that of Peter being overcome and called "Satan" by Jesus. But that was before he had been born again of the spirit of God or received the Holy Spirit.

Some will say that Peter had been washed clean by Jesus and therefore had the Holy Spirit...and yet the Holy Spirit had not been sent yet, not until after Jesus ascended to the Father.

But, no, in fact Jesus had even called Peter "Satan" not long after Peter had also been used by God the Father to correctly identify Jesus as the Christ. This is the way of things for those not yet born again of the spirit of God, but not so of those born again. One born again of the spirit of God is not just "touched" or "overcome" by spirits good or evil, but has died. And that new man born of the spirit of God, is One with God, whom is not vulnerable to such evil. None can enter, none can harm such a one. They have passed from death to life.

So, no, one who has the Holy Spirit cannot have a demon. If one has a demon or is being used by and blown to and fro by many spirits, the Holy Spirit is not in him.

But don't take that to mean that anyone who disagrees with another member of the church, does not have the Holy Spirit. Diversities of opinion among the church are another matter: If a finger does not see eye to eye with a knee, it is not because he has a demon. Don't be silly. It is only if either do not see eye to eye with the Head, that would indicate whether or not a demon has entered the body.

I read it as Jesus speaking to Satan who was operating his evil through Peter. I don't believe Jesus would call Peter Satan. Peter was being tempted and influenced by Satan and Jesus recognized it and rebuked him.

 

[ScottA]

I read it as Jesus speaking to Satan who was operating his evil through Peter. I don't believe Jesus would call Peter Satan. Peter was being tempted and influenced by Satan and Jesus recognized it and rebuked him.

Indeed, no disrespect for Peter, here. But the point is that before we are sealed in God by His own spirit, Satan can and does influence much of what goes on in the world.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Which is his do

Indeed, no disrespect for Peter, here. But the point is that before we are sealed in God by His own spirit, Satan can and does influence much of what goes on in the world.

The "world" is his domain....so agreed that Satan rules much of what is happening in it. I suppose that's why God tells us to be separate from the world and to take no part in its seductions.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

So the following who are mentioned will be of mixed blood (like the Samaritans), in your opinion?

Rev 7:4, And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Rev 7:5, Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:6, Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:7, Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:8, Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

The blood race has nothing to do with it at all, as Jesus Christ has come and their is nether Jew or Gentile under Christ Jesus and to say otherwise is a work of Satan. because what that is doing is truly rejecting Christ Jesus outright for another in fact ?

Fact is Who is of God is only given to Christians, as one can only come to the Father through Jesus Christ, so all others are lost in fact and not worthy at all.

The Hebrews were just one of the many Semitic Tribes you know, so fact is that they are not a race but a Tribe with a religion that is separate from all the rest as to God and the rest that are the majority of the Semites are not within the God of Israel, because it's all about Israel = serving God and when Jesus came he was 'the one the Christ Jesus', so bingo the lights went on ! so one abides in Jesus Christ and all who do not are outside are not worthy of God and only a curse.

The only thing that we have is the OT and that was a blueprint for the NT and anyone who claims to be looking to the Jews is a fool who is truly rejecting Jesus Christ.
One can look into the OT books that we have in our Bible for everything worthy of the Blueprint and the major problem with the so called Jews of today is that they have been lead astray by the Talmud whore and even not all of the Jews are that stupid ! to follow that Satanic mob of bastards and they point this out for what it truly is, because they are dedicated Jews who do understand the OT books and can see the Talmud for what it truly is in fact, just a man made works of Satan and the most evil racist bigoted filth mongers in the world by far, that peddle enslavement under Satan.

As I pointed out Israel is Christianity in fact, in fact anyone who rejects that is of Satan, because if you truly believed that Jesus is the Christ and the King of Israel you would support this fact, but if one rejects such then they are claiming that he is not the King of Israel. can you understand that fact.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

What has all that got to do with the nine gifts of the Spirit? And I have met many purebred Jews.

Their is not one purebred Jew, fact is it's not a race.

Jewish is a Religion, one must believe and live it or one is not a Jew.

The Semitic race does not cut it at all as only one Tribe cut it as to God Israel and then when Jesus Christ came the race point is worthless as Jesus said Jew and Greek do not exist under him as all who truly follow him are his. Bingo ! have the lights gone on, ones race is worthless and only abiding in the Holy Spirit is worthy of a true Christian.

If some fool played the race card saying that he is 100% Jew like you claim, so what ! has he got the Holy Spirit ? or are you going to grovel to the ones who can prove the most % idolising men ? for their race, what an insult ! Hitler would be proud of such racist dribble that he would give you a medal.

True Christians understand that the Holy Spirit is above all man.