Can a Christian have a demon?

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I'm glad you caught it. Sometimes I have as many as 40 hits I need to respond to and I miss some of them unintentionally.

I hear you. If I'm having a tough day I'll miss posts. Of course all us older folks are getting older by the day:)
 
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Did your eyes just gloss over the references that I gave (1 John 4:4 and Mark 3:27)?

I believe that Christians can be oppressed but not possessed by demons.

By possession I mean habitation.

I agree that Christians cannot be possessed. To be possessed means that the entities have gained a legal right to use a person as their "home" and they control the actions and thoughts of an individual. The bible gave us what seemed to be the worst case: the man of Gadara. He lived among the tombs, cut himself, cried out day and night (tormented) and no man could hold him - he had what appeared to be supernatural strength. The entities gained full control of him or 'possession.' Bob Larson said that there is no such word in the bible as 'possession' - he said that a person is "demonized." But I'm unsure yet if a demon can gain entrance into a believer - from what I've been reading they can. I'm certain that believers are oppressed - I've had some very bad attacks throughout my walk - so experientially I know that much is true. But how far an evil spirit can go in a sinning believers life I'm not 100% sure on yet. I don't have experience, so I can only go by those in that ministry, and try to discern if they're speaking truth. I guess the question would be, if a believer sins grievously and opens the door to give evil spirits a "legal right" does that mean that they are "invaded" - an evil spirit is living inside of them; not fully possessed, but exercising control over some aspect of the believer. I can't say for certain.

I think that the verses that you gave are subject to interpretation. Something that I am seeing more and more is how much Christians disagree. I've wondered about it before when I've seen sometimes very harsh disagreements on here. It's puzzling because we're of course warned about the tares, but then you can feel strongly that another is a regenerated believer and yet both of you hold disparate views. So if both have the Spirit of Truth then why the different views? I don't know the answer to this yet. I believe that there are times when believers have to accept that their brother or sister in Christ interprets Scripture differently, and amicably agree that you see things differently at this point in time. I think that's how Christ would want us to handle it at least until such a time that He brings us into congruence.

The strongest believer I knew was my sister, yet she believed in Preterism. I don't. It's puzzling to me how we both have the Holy Spirit yet our beliefs are so far apart. Is she deluded or am I? It's one of the things in the Christian walk that I have to set aside until God shows me. And there are a number of things that I've had to set aside until God chooses to gives me light on.
 

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Hi @SovereignGrace,

I think it has to do with the fact that the word of God is quick and powerful (living and active)...Hebrews 4:12.

We also come across certain scriptures as well as teachings on the scriptures at different times in our life, and we all have different backgrounds; and thus different reasons for wanting to believe or disbelieve certain doctrines. And also, certain people have been exposed to convincing arguments for some doctrines where others have not.

Fact is, we all have different life experiences that determine how we interpret what the Bible has to say.

I suppose that the Lord loves variety in His people (after all, he made us peculiar, didn't He?). The bottom line comes in the essentials of the faith, such as the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the deity of Jesus Christ, and the virgin birth. If people disagree concerning such essentials, they are not saved.

But you can have people who are genuinely born again on both sides of the Calvinism vs. Arminianism debate. Surely there is an answer that is faithful to the word of God; but for whatever reason people fall on the wrong side of the issue, whatever side that may be.
 

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I have a mate up the road who claims to be a Christian and is caught up with a satanic mob who idolise Jews and is totally off his rocker, he is totally possessed as to wanting to kill anyone who is opposing his mobs claiming that Israel is the State, that the media claim and promoted.
But fact is that all this was created by man and nothing to do with God at all and is totally the work of Satan.
He is hell bent on wanting to kill all who are of Islam faith and all who oppose in anyway anything that may say anything against the Zionist State.
You are not to question it or them at all !
That State was created by God ! they demand, but I point out that it was not created by God at all, one only has to know history to see that it was created by Satanist with the help of Rothschild's and his piss ants, the Media Whore and Governments whoring themselves to a Rothschild so called Zion, this is in fact just a fake Zion, it's a Satanic Socialist creation from the start due to Rothschild mob it's their baby, it's the Rothschild mob who ripped off the world to become the most wealthy family in the world by far and no one come near them for such wealth, look at the list of the worlds wealthiest men and Rothschild is not even on the list because they are way above the wealthiest man shown in the book and he is just a piss ant to Rothschild's in fact.

The creation of the State that is now called Israel due to the media and all whores. was created due to the Tax payers of the USA who mainly have payed for it's existence and not to mention the Germans as well.

One should be able to find out just how much money has went into creating this so called State from it's start of it's creation, lets cut out the creation of WW2 by Rothschild's mob but just the money given to the State, now if we were to know of all the money given to this State and worked it out in todays value what would it be ? now what if we were to never of given one cent to the State ever where would this State be ? now truly ! be honest now, it would not of existed in the first place ! now would it of, No not at all !
 
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How can people be so stupid to say that it was a creation of God ! it's in fact a creation of man and it's money that was given underhandedly, the USA Tax payers have been fooled, most do not even know how much is given to the State even last year, what was the figure ? I bet you don't even know.

Hell even Australia gives this bastard Satanic State money, not to mention all the rest.
God created this State of Israel, come off it ! how stupid can one be.
When Holy Moses pointed out the Land it was God that gave the Land, not men and others who helped like we see going on with this bastard creation.

Could the State now claiming to be Israel stand on it's own two feet, not a chance ! but back in the days true Israel sure did without help from any others propping it up and not to mention that it only fell, due to corruption from inside that made them turn from God and then fail. not to mention the same is going on within Christianity nowadays, due to the whores that have entered leading the people astray with their Political Correct gods that bastardise Christ Jesus.

I remember seeing Pope JP II on TV for years in the News with the media hammering at him to recognise the State that they claim is Israel. and the Pope was made look like a fool in the eyes of uneducated people on the subject, most fools though that the Pope was rejecting a State, he was rejecting the Name Israel in regard to it, because the RCC has always claimed to be Israel ! \
So how could a Pope come out and say that the RCC was not Israel when it had been for 2000 years.
 
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Has God left us all for 2000 years ? no !
The new age mob are claiming that Jesus is coming back, but he never has left us, if you believe his word. as he said that he would never leave us.
Nothing is wrong with the world nowadays apart from Sin, we have everything nowadays that people in the past could not even fathom such a life.
All the real problems are created due to Sin.
I have a mate who never had children and he claims that he would not want to bring such into the world nowadays and I am like BS the children nowadays have it far more easy than I ever did by far and I am proud to have children and if I did not have such in my life it would be a much poorer life that what I have had for sure, old mate gets in a spin and says but children cost money ! and I am like not even winning the lotto beyond my wildest dreams, could not surpass the joy of having your own children and that's a fact.

The main thing is that the world has to get a handle on dealing with Sin, so if it has true foundations as to such all will be fine but if it looses such well then there will be hellfire to pay as they will just reap what they sown.

Sadly the so called Jews that control the so called Zionist State do not have any foundations as to the OT Israel even at all, if one bothers to look. they are a product of the Golden Calf and that bastard Star on their flag is exactly what St Stephen said that it is.
 
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Isa 66:7, Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.
Isa 66:8, Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
Isa 66:9, Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.
Isa 66:10, Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her:
 
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Psa 129:1, [[A Song of degrees.]] Many a time have they afflicted me from my youth, may Israel now say:
Psa 129:2, Many a time have they afflicted me from my youth: yet they have not prevailed against me.
Psa 129:3, The plowers plowed upon my back: they made long their furrows.
Psa 129:4, The LORD is righteous: he hath cut asunder the cords of the wicked.
Psa 129:5, Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion.
Psa 129:6, Let them be as the grass upon the housetops, which withereth afore it groweth up:
Psa 129:7, Wherewith the mower filleth not his hand; nor he that bindeth sheaves his bosom.
Psa 129:8, Neither do they which go by say, The blessing of the LORD be upon you: we bless you in the name of the LORD.
 

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Jesus Christ is the King of Israel.

No one comes to the Father but through his only begotten Son.

All who are Truly born again are Israel (Servants of God) they abide in him, as they know him and he knows them. it's not a one off thing it's a life long journey as they are united in the Holy Spirit.
 
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Rom 11:11, I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
Rom 11:12, Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
Rom 11:13, For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
Rom 11:14, If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
Rom 11:15, For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
Rom 11:16, For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
Rom 11:17, And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
Rom 11:18, Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Rom 11:19, Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
Rom 11:20, Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
Rom 11:21, For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22, Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Rom 11:23, And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Rom 11:24, For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
Rom 11:25, For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26, And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

The root is the olive tree, which is Israel. People who were the natural branches of the olive tree were removed and wild olive branches were graffed in. That is you and me. We do not bear the root (Israel) but the root bears us. We have been graffed into the olive tree which is Israel. Let us not boast against the natural branches; because if we don't continue in the Lord's goodness, we will be cut away from the olive tree the same way that the natural branches were.

The natural branches will one day be graffed back into the olive tree. All of Israel shall be saved: this is speaking of all of the seed of Jacob. As the context bears out that this is speaking of the day when the natural branches will again be graffed into their own olive tree.
 

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Subject title= "Can a Christian have a demon"

More and more on this Site I am feeling like I am talking to some right here!! :D

What a mixed up bunch lol
 
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More and more on this Site I am feeling like I am talking to some right here!! :D

What a mixed up bunch lol
The spirit of Antichrist is in all who reject the trinity or deity of Christ according to John.
 
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Rom 11:11, I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
Rom 11:12, Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
Rom 11:13, For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
Rom 11:14, If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
Rom 11:15, For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
Rom 11:16, For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
Rom 11:17, And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
Rom 11:18, Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Rom 11:19, Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
Rom 11:20, Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
Rom 11:21, For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22, Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Rom 11:23, And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Rom 11:24, For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
Rom 11:25, For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26, And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

The root is the olive tree, which is Israel. People who were the natural branches of the olive tree were removed and wild olive branches were graffed in. That is you and me. We do not bear the root (Israel) but the root bears us. We have been graffed into the olive tree which is Israel. Let us not boast against the natural branches; because if we don't continue in the Lord's goodness, we will be cut away from the olive tree the same way that the natural branches were.

The natural branches will one day be graffed back into the olive tree. All of Israel shall be saved: this is speaking of all of the seed of Jacob. As the context bears out that this is speaking of the day when the natural branches will again be graffed into their own olive tree.
Yes but I am a Jew so people claim to me, boy the anger that some have to me for claiming that I am a Christian is just amazing and the Jews who try to bring me over to them saying that I am not a Christian but a Jew. I point out that they do not understand that I am truly born again, like Saul was and he become Paul.
I know who Jesus truly is in fact, so why would I turn back like a dog to it's own vomit.

Just look at all the Jews that came to Jesus back in the day, who the hell do you think that they are ?
The ones broken off are dead regardless and the ones grafted in are abiding in the root, end of story.

For one to claim that they have a blood line going back to them Hebrews Tribes nowadays is a joke, as all are breed in with the goyim, so not one person in the world nowadays could claim to be totally within the blood lines of them peoples of them days before Christ Jesus, sure they have tried too, but just look at all the inbreed morons that they are sickly and weak due to trying just that, let alone when Jesus came it was not about the bloodline at all from their on but the Holy Spirit that one needed that was pointed out was above all in the Gifts not to mention always was.

Anyone claiming to be of that Hebrew group just does not cut it and anyone who is truly born again knows it's a fact.
I don't give a cracker who anyone thinks they are be it Blood line or Race because the fact is that if they don't have the Holy Spirit they are nothing ! just look at all the gooses that their were back in the days before Jesus, who was it that was truly Israel in fact ? who was it that truly served God ? the Prophets comes to mind, but the majority of people within the tribes were nothing, so that points that fact out as to blood line is just nonsense.

What more is it to the Holy Spirit, are you looking to something more, well if you are, then you must not have it because you are not born again then are you.

What fools to think that some prick is going to jump out of the wood work and be idolised as a so called Jew claiming to be the second coming. the Holy Spirit is all that you need as nothing trumps the Holy Spirit is their. one has it or you don't as it's a gift to all regardless of race or anything you could come up with.
 
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For one to claim that they have a blood line going back to them Hebrews Tribes nowadays is a joke, as all are breed in with the goyim, so not one person in the world nowadays could claim to be totally within the blood lines of them peoples of them days before Christ Jesus,

Anyone claiming to be of that Hebrew group just does not cut it and anyone who is truly born again knows it's a fact.

I suppose then that, therefore, what is written in Revelation 7 will never come to pass.
 

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I do not remember Jesus saying that the bloodline has to be above all, that was not what he was on about.

Jesus was pointing out to his disciples go to the Israelites and stay with them and tell them all. because such may be true to the understanding as Holy Moses was on about and comprehend the fact that their Saviour is here, just as Nathaniel knew directly, because he was a true Israelite in fact, as Jesus said this of him and much more that he would see.

Dear justbyfaith do you know what Jesus said to Nathaniel, are you not blown away by what Jesus said to him ! can you believe it ! or are you rejecting such ?

Now Jesus said to his disciples, if the house of Israel that you stay does not believe you, to go from that house and to wipe the dust of their sandals, that means to reject them and anything that they have said because they are not truly of Israel at all, as Holy Moses said that such who were true would know, as we seen with Nathaniel.

Do you understand all who Nathaniel is in the Bible, justbyfaith

I am blown away by Nathaniel in the Bible and I am pretty sure that he is Stephen.
 

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No; Nathanael is Nathanael.

I am not rejecting what Jesus said to him; and am unsure of what your point is in bringing him into the discussion.
 

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No; Nathanael is Nathanael.

I am not rejecting what Jesus said to him; and am unsure of what your point is in bringing him into the discussion.
Well Nathanael is not mentioned again, so I suppose he may just be Stephen Nathaniel, such could be true.

Well in the Bible Nathaniel is pointed out as a true Israelite by Jesus and we know that not all are Israel, who say they are claiming to be such Jews, as Jesus does point this out as well.

So the point being is that because one was within the Tribe of Israel, that does not make one a Israel "Servant of God", now does it, because we know that they did not have this as a god given right under the tent of the tribe of Israel, because they could be kicked out of the Tribe or killed if they did not measure up, you do understand all the OT rules don't you, they are very strict you know, they have sins punishable by death.
We see with Jacob that he was not Israel until he became Israel, it was because the Angel gave that to him. not everyone cuts the mustard you know, just because they are under the same roof in the Tribe.

Not to mention that Jesus came and Israel would truly know who he truly is. Nathanael is absolute proof of that when you understand what is going on. if one is not born again one may not pick up on this point as to what it's all truly about. this is a maxim point in the
Now if one did not know he was Jesus they can not be worthy of being Israel now can they, as Holy Moses said that such would know him.
If one truly followed in Holy Moses they would know who Jesus was, because they are truly Servants of God = Israel.

Jesus Christ has come and anyone who is outside of that is not worthy, so anyone who is an Anti-Christ sure as hell can not cut the grade now can they. not to mention non ever have for 2000 years now have they, so anyone who embraces a group of Anti-Christ is under the power of Satan for sure as they sure must have a Demon. to love bastards like that, not to mention that back in the OT days the true tribe is Israel sure as hell did not embrace Bastards as to God that's for sure.
 

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Why would anyone who knows God go and embrace a total bastard that rejects God ?

That's what we are dealing with nowadays, so fact is that all who do such are Anti-Christ and they must be demon possessed.
Now knowing the OT, such under the Law had to be killed back in the day.
So would you off seen a Israelite back in the days of the OT embracing others gods or embracing them that hate them.

Why would a true Christian who truly knows Jesus is the Christ bow down to all the trash that rejects Jesus Christ or hates him nowadays, why would a Christian want to lay with such filth that will only end up destroying Christianity and enslaving all under Satan's powers or why do such calling themselves Christians want to go through the hellfire to come, is it because they truly don't have faith is Jesus Christ, I believe that's the case why they are abandoning him and turning to the world and claiming to others that another Jesus is coming.

Why should Christians fear and bow down to Political Correct man made gods that we can see will only enslave all under their cultural Marxist plans and enslaving man to such Satanic madness of moronic demon possessed trash, what will the generation think of us, if they survive are they to think that we all were spaced out on drugs, or under great delusions under the power of being possessed by demons.
 
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Look at that dude that is called Israel Folau and how the Media and Government of today have stomped on him for is comment's that are in fact true to the Bible and is his faith in God to stand up to the Satanic world of today, that is dictating over all of us like a mangy mongrel filthy dog that's lording it over us now.
He has said nothing wrong ! people 5 years ago and more would not of made such an issue, but it's a major issue now and they will use such malice to destroy any one who does not comply with their new found Political Correct gods that they truly do idolise 100%.

This is the same type of pox became the dictating crap that was what Hitler used to control the Germans in fact and sadly our people do not know how or care that a whole Nation was fooled by him and his Nazi trash or how the communist gained power over a people and ruled like the Devil himself over them.
Most people think that the Germans were a bad people but the fact was one could be German for 100 generations but if you did not follow the Party line you became an enemy of the State and dealt with and no one could say a word for fear.
That's the path that we are heading down now, it's different but the same type disease as it's a pox on all.

Anyone who try's to undermine freedom of speech in any way is of Satan.
 
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