Gods Standard is...

[marks]

Look, there are folks here on this forum that are not interested in asking caring, thoughtful or loving questions, or listening to folks for edification of any body of Christ. In fact some of them recoil once confronted or placed on the spot. I do not enjoy doing this although I believe these types need to be identified and labeled from time to time. If is causes some to feel offended then the message might have been effective. Love is given in many forms and shades. And currently this is the type I'm emanating right now...a little tough although warranted for this purpose.

Bless you,

APAK

So you stand behind it. That communicates!

Much love!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

I didn't recoil at being put on the spot. I recoiled at your harsh and arrogant tone. There was no call for it. I did not approach you in that manner, you chose to respond in that manner.

That's on you, not me. That's from the abundance of your heart, not mine. Your reaction was harsh and arrogant. Its on you. No matter how much you try to put it on me, it was your response, not mine.

 

[faithfulness]

There are many distances from Jesus Christ. Many followed Him from a distance...but few walked with Him.

It's the same with us. I have walked at many distances including very near.

This is what discipleship is about...learning to walk closely..as close as we allow ourselves by our limited faith and faithfulness.

Hope this isn't a stupid question...but I've been wanting to ask for some time, but couldn't find this post until now...does our 'desire'-- the desire of our heart, have a lot to do with our walk or is it mostly predicated on our faith? And faithfulness.

He who desires to come after Me...

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Hope this isn't a stupid question...but I've been wanting to ask for some time, but couldn't find this post until now...does our 'desire'-- the desire of our heart, have a lot to do with our walk or is it mostly predicated on our faith? And faithfulness.

He who desires to come after Me...

I don't think it's a stupid question!

3Trust in the LORD and do good;
Dwell in the land and cultivate faithfulness.
4Delight yourself in the LORD;
And He will give you the desires of your heart.
5Commit your way to the LORD,
Trust also in Him, and He will do it.
6He will bring forth your righteousness as the light
And your judgment as the noonday.
7Rest in the LORD and wait patiently for Him;

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Commit your way to Him, trust Him and He will do it.

Cultivate faithfulness.

To me, this means your job is to trust Him and wait patiently.

 

[Enoch111]

does our 'desire'-- the desire of our heart, have a lot to do with our walk or is it mostly predicated on our faith?

How about both?

 

[Episkopos]

Hope this isn't a stupid question...but I've been wanting to ask for some time, but couldn't find this post until now...does our 'desire'-- the desire of our heart, have a lot to do with our walk or is it mostly predicated on our faith? And faithfulness.

He who desires to come after Me...

I have not yet figured out how much it goes by desire...faith or how much God thinks we can handle. I think we need to spend some time to let each lesson sink in before proceeding to the next level.

 

[bbyrd009]

I say Amen! to the above.

I would be striving and self-examining, myself. But i have spent a lotta moments torturing myself over past sins bc mostly bc i did not confess at the time i guess, too

 

[bbyrd009]

That's funny you say you were mad at God for killing Jesus.

That was an honest confession imo, i still get mad at God now and then myself
It makes a great sign, when you can admit it imo
i usually stop right then and sit down or something

 

[bbyrd009]

that's no excuse, the whole English bible is a translation or a transliteration of Aramaic or Hebrew concepts, so you cannot use that excuse. I have have no problem with any of the titles.

Well i was maybe meaning a diff thing @ messiah and savior, meaning those were appropriated, even if they really belong to Christ, i agree there

and as for "Lord" it correctly identify God as the diversity of himself in flesh, and LORD without flesh. it's just men don't understand the scriptures.

and you do, right, look, if you wanna conflate God or Christ with the xlation "Lord" that is certainly your right, ok, but imo "God" will always stay God that way, and prolly never become Father in your thought? Lords are English ppl who got or bought titles, and operate Slave States, and reinstitute the law of sin and death, death for killing one of the "Lords" rabbits Bc starving, etc. I'll pass. Did that for like forty years, don't get me wrong, served me well at the time. But God is Love, right

see, when people say or that's not a good translation or this is better. that's is the first step in trying to get a good translation removed. but that ain't working either.

I understand, and my reply is that translations are undertaken by scribes, servants, and there is nothing wrong with starting there, but finishing there? After you discover Lex and then Inter? Enter, imo. "Good translation" is arbitration by you, right, see now i got two ppl between me and Father lol

yes, YOUR obv but clearly qualified?

Qualified statements, g, in my opinion, this is my guess, i don't know expressed however ok

maybe in your own opinion. was we not speaking of the Lord Jesus, and not Caesars, or david?

well see as soon as you say Lord i hear the law of sin and death, which i could even Quote for them other guys, right, you could too?

true, neither was the Christ or the Messiah, but Jesus did declear that he is the Messiah, which is clearly qualified and not ... my opinion, but the scriptures.

"like"

 

[bbyrd009]

16And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

And without controversy great is the mystery? What does that even mean, disregarding the starting a sentence with And for a sec? Iow what did The Guy who decided to xlate that that way Read from the original which you have access to, as opposed to how you might interpret the passage right now, after a few minutes study? After a few days reflection? Only one way to find out i guess huh? And many ways to find that out!

1 Timothy 3:16 Lexicon: By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory.
i mean believed on in the world? Maybe don't even bother Lex yet, just um deconstruct what you already got even?
1 Timothy 3:16 Interlinear: and, confessedly, great is the secret of piety -- God was manifested in flesh, declared righteous in spirit, seen by messengers, preached among nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory!
So imo we got a like a 3in1 goin on here, a 3for1 if you will, and you get to pick, right, no one is Lording it over you at all unless you let them, insert them between you and Word, imo ok, which you aren't going to get to Reading anyway imo but you can sure get closer maybe, if you want to. When

 

[bbyrd009]

ok.

If you would Quote the v that leads you that way we could take a look. I would but i can't quite recall the keywords

 

[bbyrd009]

Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ-- this Jesus whom you crucified."

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all Israel know with certainty that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ!"

amen, and who is Israel? eek

 

[bbyrd009]

One of them was my mother. She never blamed me that I can see although she had good reason to...

ha mine too. She is a saint imo. Terrible taste in men imo, but hey i have the ezack same taste in women too. HA!

I've never had a family member close to animals or birds like that but I had a close friend who had an unusual connection with squirrels.

that is actually my dad, squirrels. They'd come sit in his lap, within a few months of our arrival. Then they would even come sit in anyone's lap that had nuts, and knew the Squirrel Protocol
i guess it's pretty easy, just takes a little patience

 

[bbyrd009]

You will never forget your dad and what he was and what he became. That he made a difference to you is seen in the words you posted here. For as long as you can remember anything you will remember him.

I wish i could agree more, but he mostly did not share his gift, squirrel-wise, certainly not when i was a kid, and the becoming on again Himself was only accomplished by force, strokes, at the very end, still managing to get waited on hand and foot. Now there was a lord lol.

I quit even making appointments in my early teens tbh. No one us three survivors--apt term--have even invoked his name once, or shared a single memory since his um literal death, over two years ago? Is that normal? I have no idea, doesn't seem right tho

 

[bbyrd009]

I like this!

Ha yet only @faithfulness liked that, ok
lol. J/k, don't care really.
But you did get more likes for that than i did?
HA!

 

[bbyrd009]

cannot the Holy Spirit read, know and understand English, as well as Hebrew or aramaic? these are only ploys for not going to God and being taught of God the truth, and not man's truth.

So, you prefer to rely on an English scribe rather than consult a Lexicon that can expound on the original and like remove the Middle Man, men, and i'm instigating a ploy here to steer others to
men's truth?
Ok

and imo no, the Spirit does not Read, we do? The Book is God-Breathed right, the Spirit was complicit in (literally now) "translating" Word into words, in the original language, to the one who Heard, and wrote down Word. But then someone came along and Read that, right, even a native speaker of that tongue might easily Read that and get the wrong idea, right?

Pls interpret the following if you would; "Stay here for the present."
This concludes today's um rant about why you cannot read Word, ty

my question is this, "WHERE IS YOUR FAITH?"

ah well that comes by Hearing, right

have we been so duped by the double tongues that we cannot trust the Holy Spirit for Guidance?

preach it bro, i'm pickin up what you're layin down!
No, wait...

maybe we need to go into our closets and have a heart to heart talk with God.

wadr closets seem to mostly be where we confess lol, and i don't have much talking to do with God wadr.

Recognizing that i am somewhat abusing your intent there, but really not, see; why wouldn't you have said, or i mean why don't we say "Have a heart to heart listen with "God?" do you think?

 

[bbyrd009]

Here's a thought . . . God knew me when He wrote His Book. He wrote His Book to me. And the rest of us of course. But to me!

God knew exactly how I'd read it, how I'd go about understanding it, all that. And He Freely gives the Holy Spirit, and Freely gives wisdom, to anyone who asks. All He asks is that when we ask, we believe that we receive.

Much love!

well i would say "have faith" that you will receive, which is imo a diff operation...gave you a like anyway tho
Mark 11:24 Lexicon: "Therefore I say to you, all things for which you pray and ask, believe that you have received them, and they will be granted you.
yup, only one way to say "have faith" in the Book i guess, pistis
many ways to say Belief right. Five diff ways.
Just stick your right hand out and count what you see imo

God knew exactly how I'd read it, how I'd go about understanding it, all that.

even described that op, yeh? Wisdom hidden from the wise, ever hearing but not understanding, etcetc. I do not understand Scripture, let alone truth imo. Now i might come to a little better understanding of some passage today, maybe with your help, i might um hear some reflection that clicks for me or something, here a little there a little, but...ya

 

[bbyrd009]

I do not have a Former "habit" of "Looking up".

I believe in the Rapture

ok so then i agree that the habit is not yet "former" then, my apologies

 

[bbyrd009]

The only teachers who should teach, in my humble opinion, are those who have been gifted by God to teach.

How do we know who they are?

Much love!

imo they would be strenuously not trying to teach lol