Is Jesus the only Way?

[bbyrd009]

Jas 1:18) Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

Now wadr you include yourself in this we, right, but you exclude others, right, based upon what ezackly if i may ask, ty. Can't cut paste now, ok. Bam take this rhetorically if you like ok, no one else ever answers either
Have a good day

 

[bbyrd009]

Oh my gosh...haha haha!

I know he's a comedian, huh? All "it's Like This, and
Like That, and I Am the One Who Knows, and everyone should not even be here just like I Am...lol, jesus already. Completely oblivious to the crowd wisdom here of course, if you told him the real score he would curse you too i guess

 

[bbyrd009]

Why is that funny? What's true is true. What's false is false.

priceless

 

[bbyrd009]

Lol...oh stop making me laugh!

maybe they missed "sprinkling or raining" i guess huh

 

[bbyrd009]

This is so true...if only it was applied correctly.

Hard to understand from our pov i guess, but we actually need ppl who disagree with us, even in these matters, i guess? But what weight to give them, that is a hard decision in the moment i guess. Let's not forget that we were them too right, or anyway i sure was. I even remember those suggesting that my Jesus Cult was not so healthy at the time. I hope they forgave me, surely i was pretty obnoxious about it. too.

 

[bbyrd009]

Yep.

Virtually the same thing Andy Stanley is preaching: we don't believe because of what the Bible says. Utter foolishness.

None of these clowns would know anything about Christ but through Scripture.

Fwiw what is xlated as "Scripture" to us turns out to be Writings i guess when you go look, there at Paul's "all Writings...?" Weird but true. And i guess born out by the many importations of Stoic and other philosophies into our Bibles by Paul? But even the Decalogue was imported, i guess Hammurabi (king of Babylon, no less) is credited with half of It right.

Anyway, ty for your opinion here, it really is revealing, and i hope you stay ok
Sorry i called you a clown--if i did, not sure--of course i am too, i am reading myself not five years ago but five days ago now, and still a clown, lol, sigh

 

[bbyrd009]

Matthew 13:26 "But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
Matthew 13:27 "So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
Matthew 13:28 "He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
Matthew 13:29 "But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Matthew 13:30 "Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn".

hence Revelation 22:11

PICJAG.

zing

 

[bbyrd009]

Don't worry it was.

Are you not fam with the diff in Naive and Satan's dialectics? I ask Bc i wasn't, until very recently. Still grappling with it actually i guess

 

[bbyrd009]

Romans 15:4 "For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope".

PICJAG.

Yeh, feel the love huh? Hey at least we get pity right?
narf

 

[bbyrd009]

We do in fact then make ourselves our own personal god...just as ASdam and Eve attempted to do by partaking of the wrong tree in the garden.

I would say "did," but ok. Imo eating from the tree of knowledge would exhibit some um specific symptoms i guess, wooden tit? How would someone who ate from that tree talk, iow? Obv they ate "knowledge of good and evil," right, so their um speech would prolly be affected?

 

[bbyrd009]

I could offer at least two glaring examples, where God's written word is discarded in favour of human logic and reasoning

I could "offer" one from that sentence, two i mean unless you consider rhema Word,

Rhema (ῥῆμα in Greek) literally means an "utterance" or "thing said" in Greek. It is a word that signifies the action of utterance. In philosophy, it was used by both Plato and Aristotle to refer to propositions or sentences.

which i mean go ahead, if you like, everyone else does right

 

[bbyrd009]

Ask someone why they don't observe Sabbath and they will produce anything but a "thus saith the Lord". Ask why they eat things that are not anywhere designated as food, and the same reasons are offered...all of human devising.

Romans 14:5 Lexicon: One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.
Mark 1:6 Lexicon: John was clothed with camel's hair and wore a leather belt around his waist, and his diet was locusts and wild honey.
or I could go dig up one about eating your own baby too i guess

 

[Taken]

Is Jesus the Only WAY? <--- OP

Yes!

WHY?
Because God in His own WISDOM, Decided HOW He would Reveal HIS TRUTH, TO Israel "AND" Gentiles.

BUT, BUT, BUT....what ABOUT the OT men, who KNEW NOT JESUS?

Granted; the "NAME" JESUS was a MYSTERY (unknown) to OT men.

HOWEVER ~
The WORD of God "WAS NOT" a MYSTERY.

OT MEN ~ WHO Heard, and AGREED TO obey Gods WORD, "BECAME" divided from men WHO Heard, and AGREED, but DID NOT obey.

OT MEN ~ WHO AGREED and OBEYED the WORD OF God, we can Follow "their" HISTORY, "their genealogy, through "STOCK", (sperm of the mans direct descendantantship, and female blood line) DESCENDING and Identifing the THOSE persons, FAITHFUL TO the WORD OF GOD....

THEY BEING the SAME DIRECT LINE, TO WHICH;
"THE FAITHFUL AND ANNOINTED SERVANT OF GOD; THE WORD OF GOD; PURE TRUTH; WOULD BE REVEALED IN THE FLESH;
TAKING UPON HIMSELF, THE GENEALOGY ANCESTORY-SHIP OF THE VERY MEN;
WHO KEPT A DIRECT LINE DESCENDING OF PEOPLE FAITHFUL TO THE WORD OF GOD;

AND SUCH FAITHFUL SERVANT OF GOD, SO REVEALED IS THE WORD OF GAD AND CALLED BY THE NAME JESUS, AND TITLE/NAME; THE SON OF GOD."

IS JESUS, the ONLY WAY?
Yes.

Because ONCE God reveals KNOWLEDGE, it is NO LONGER a MYSTERY, and the REVEALED KNOWLEDGE, is thus Knowledge each individual is accountable for relying upon such knowledge revealed.

In Brief ~
The Word of God has ALWAYS BEEN "THE WAY" to hear, learn, ABOUT God, and been the BASIS for men to individually MAKE freewill choices to BELIEVE in God or NOT.
Not ALL men KNEW, the Word of Gods NAME was Jesus, YET He was Always the WORD of God, and the Savior Offered for ALL men, to accept Gods Offering, or not.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[bbyrd009]

Yes!

and also No, strangely enough. I think Nehushtan is the bridge there

 

[bbyrd009]

In Brief

as if, right?
j/k, ok

 

[amadeus]

Well wadr that assumes that we will grow at all, right, i mean no offense but i don't see much agrowin tbh. Sure wish I did. I guess we could test your theory, query some site OGs and see how they may have grown...but we would get their opinion, not quite the same thing i guess. Should be some way to test though...

anyway, if you could just Quote "grow in the Lord" or "learning His Word" we might have a basis to continue here, wadr; i like to proceed from Scripture, sure you do too. Don't need them all of course, just one for each will do for a start i guess.

So, bated breath here, k, this is really the only discussion i am interested in this am, peace

But grow we must... if we are to be like Jesus:

"And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him." Luke 2:40

"And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man." Luke 2:52

"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." I John 3:2

 

[bbyrd009]

ezackly not, which is my point. By "ours" you meant "our own," yes?




Ecclesiastes 4:12 Lexicon: And if one can overpower him who is alone, two can resist him. A cord of three strands is not quickly torn apart.
which whomever translated that into English for us should be hanged imo lol. Wait'll you interp this puppy! You could look the rest of the day and not find "three" expressed that way i bet. And wth is chut? When you go looking for rope, cord, or line expressed that way anywhere else NT, you are going to get a surprise i guess! Ha! All those Colt tied with "a line," I was let down in a "rope" basket, they aalll just disappear, huh? trippy.

He who has an ear, let him hear

Can someone Quote me one other instance of "rope, cord, line" in the orig? I only checked NT so far tho

 

[amadeus]

and also No, strangely enough. I think Nehushtan is the bridge there

Yes, with Jesus we start and must finish. If along the way, perhaps unbeknownst to us, we trade the original in for only a brass statuette, have we moved then into delusion?

 

[bbyrd009]

But grow we must... if we are to be like Jesus:

"And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him." Luke 2:40

"And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man." Luke 2:52

"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." I John 3:2

I dunno G, whole lotta Believers seem to wanna be going with "I got born fully formed" i guess. i tell ya what. I still hold a hope of salvation myself. I dunno.

 

[amadeus]

Why is that funny? What's true is true. What's false is false.

Irony?