Is Jesus the only Way?

[prism]

But i don't read where Amadeus ever did?

Was I including Amadeus in my original statement of 'ours'?

ah, I guess, maybe, if the Q was not clear? What is "it" up there? Are you saying our faulty interpretation will correct our interpretation in another section?

No, our interpretation will become less faulty as we grow in the Lord learning His Word.

 

[prism]

Yet many will be deceived right, few there are who find it
So wadr i don't know who your "we" is there.
Step by steppers, here-a little-there-a-little?

I mean no offense ok, i am just suspicious of any "making sense of Word."
Let alone learning It i guess. Maybe you could Quote a couple vv that might clarify? Ty

By 'we' I am referring the Children of God whom He has begotten through the new birth. That is what Jesus was speaking of when He said you must be born again.

John 1:12 (KJV) But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

(Jas 1:18) Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

This entire threads OP and premise is a mockery of God and his revealed word, coupled with a "follow me and my mysticism, and be my disciple" by the author.

Paul warned those at Ephesus, and those of us today that some would rise up to speak twisted things and draw away disciples after them, Acts 20:30 . Mitigating the word to draw attention to one's self? Yep, that's the epitome of this episkopos who loves to mitigate the word, exalt himself while trampling others in the process. These are the self-proclaimed super spiritual.

Oh my gosh...haha haha!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Even so, but remember that others are also using sometimes the same scripture in the same versions as you or me and coming up at times with different results. The difference is in whether we are leaning on the Lord or on our own abilities to guide us, is it not?


The testing occurs according the Word as it is written in our hearts. The point of origin for us may seem to be the Bible, but remember the other guy may be claiming the same Bible and even the same verses as his point of origin. Ultimately the correct testing is done by God. If we are not in touch with Him for the test we cannot expect to always receive God's result for our own.


And God's grace works in us by our leave. We have the dominion over ourselves that God gave to each of us until and when we surrender it to Him. This is part of Paul's "die daily" It is also in line with what John the Baptist said here:

"He must increase, but I must decrease." John 3:30

Indeed, but again without the correct interpretation in us by the Holy Spirit, the very scriptures will be a dead carcass. When it is eaten [eating the flesh of Jesus] and quickened in us [brought to Life by the Holy Spirit] then it can and will accomplish as God has said that it would:

"So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it." Isaiah 55:11

I just read this again. I really like this post.

 

[Enoch111]

Oh my gosh...haha haha!

Why is that funny? What's true is true. What's false is false.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Lol...oh stop making me laugh!

 

[prism]

This entire threads OP and premise is a mockery of God and his revealed word, coupled with a "follow me and my mysticism, and be my disciple" by the author.

Paul warned those at Ephesus, and those of us today that some would rise up to speak twisted things and draw away disciples after them, Acts 20:30 . Mitigating the word to draw attention to one's self? Yep, that's the epitome of this episkopos who loves to mitigate the word, exalt himself while trampling others in the process. These are the self-proclaimed super spiritual.

That's a big 10-4 Good Buddy.This garbage of dragging God's written Word through the mud of human judgment needs to stop. One day if certain individuals don't repent it will be God's Word that will judge them using their own words as evidence.

 

[Episkopos]

That's a big 10-4 Good Buddy.This garbage of dragging God's written Word through the mud of human judgment needs to stop. One day if certain individuals don't repent it will be God's Word that will judge them using their own words as evidence.

This is so true...if only it was applied correctly.

 

[101G]

Matthew 12:37 "For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned".

Matthew 25:32 "And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats".

PICJAG.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

That's a big 10-4 Good Buddy.This garbage of dragging God's written Word through the mud of human judgment needs to stop. One day if certain individuals don't repent it will be God's Word that will judge them using their own words as evidence.

Yep.

Virtually the same thing Andy Stanley is preaching: we don't believe because of what the Bible says. Utter foolishness.

None of these clowns would know anything about Christ but through Scripture.

 

[101G]

Matthew 13:26 "But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
Matthew 13:27 "So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
Matthew 13:28 "He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
Matthew 13:29 "But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Matthew 13:30 "Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn".

hence Revelation 22:11

PICJAG.

 

[prism]

This is so true...if only it was applied correctly.

Don't worry it was.

 

[prism]

Yep.

Virtually the same thing Andy Stanley is preaching: we don't believe because of what the Bible says. Utter foolishness.

None of these clowns would know anything about Christ but through Scripture.

Yes, unhitching from the OT and even anything that has letters attached to it. Sad state of affairs.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

Don't worry it was.

Yep, and I don't agree happily, it's literally saddening to see it happening.

 

[101G]

Romans 15:4 "For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope".

PICJAG.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

They were just trying to intimidate us, imagining that they could discourage us and stop the work...

 

[brakelite]

That's a big 10-4 Good Buddy.This garbage of dragging God's written Word through the mud of human judgment needs to stop. One day if certain individuals don't repent it will be God's Word that will judge them using their own words as evidence.

Agree that revelation, whether through scripture, providence, or nature, must be the basis form our walk. But scripture takes pre-eminence. And the moment we allow our feelings, our emotions, our reasonings and logical conclusions to outweigh the evicence of any "thus saith the Lord", we are rejecting God's sovereignty and His authority. We do in fact then make ourselves our own personal god...just as ASdam and Eve attempted to do by partaking of the wrong tree in the garden.
Which leads me to wonder, why is it that so many who proclaim the above...profess to follow the above recipe...when faced with discerning what is right and wrong, so often revert to emotion...tradition...sensory perception... human reasoning etc etc and reject God's specifically declared authoritative proclamation on the subject? I could offer at least two glaring examples, where God's written word is discarded in favour of human logic and reasoning. Sabbath observance and diet. Ask someone why they don't observe Sabbath and they will produce anything but a "thus saith the Lord". Ask why they eat things that are not anywhere designated as food, and the same reasons are offered...all of human devising.

 

[bbyrd009]

Was I including Amadeus in my original statement of 'ours'?

ezackly not, which is my point. By "ours" you meant "our own," yes?

but remember the other guy

But you said earlier that we see through a glass darkly and now you want to point us back to the obscurity of our hearts?

Ah, i heard there a pointing to the other guy's maybe, not "ours?

Ecclesiastes 4:12 Lexicon: And if one can overpower him who is alone, two can resist him. A cord of three strands is not quickly torn apart.
which whomever translated that into English for us should be hanged imo lol. Wait'll you interp this puppy! You could look the rest of the day and not find "three" expressed that way i bet. And wth is chut? When you go looking for rope, cord, or line expressed that way anywhere else NT, you are going to get a surprise i guess! Ha! All those Colt tied with "a line," I was let down in a "rope" basket, they aalll just disappear, huh? trippy.

He who has an ear, let him hear

 

[bbyrd009]

Was I including Amadeus in my original statement of 'ours'?

No, our interpretation will become less faulty as we grow in the Lord learning His Word.

Well wadr that assumes that we will grow at all, right, i mean no offense but i don't see much agrowin tbh. Sure wish I did. I guess we could test your theory, query some site OGs and see how they may have grown...but we would get their opinion, not quite the same thing i guess. Should be some way to test though...

anyway, if you could just Quote "grow in the Lord" or "learning His Word" we might have a basis to continue here, wadr; i like to proceed from Scripture, sure you do too. Don't need them all of course, just one for each will do for a start i guess.

So, bated breath here, k, this is really the only discussion i am interested in this am, peace

 

[bbyrd009]

By 'we' I am referring the Children of God whom He has begotten through the new birth. That is what Jesus was speaking of when He said you must be born again.

Yes, and my point being that you include yourself in that group, yes? You assume you are born again, saved, etc?

John 1:12 (KJV) But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name

Hey, at least you didn't Quote a tranny that had "believe" stuffed in twice! Lol. Lot of them do i guess.
John 1:12 Lexicon: But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,
Five roots express "believe" in English, and only one expresses "have faith," which i don't see in any English interp? Ha. Ok one. The remedial one. lol, CEV.