Please explain this.

[bbyrd009]

Not everyone is an evangelist. Or a preacher.

ah, your point being? ty
i ask bc this was maybe directed at me?

 

[bbyrd009]

Golgatha....place of the skull. David brought the head back to Jerusalem.....It is a tradition....called "the place of the skull" as in one skull so it fits. 1st Samuel 17:54

well dang it isnt GIFing, my giffer's broke

 

[bbyrd009]

Golgotha is a particularly grim sounding name, befitting what happened there...

wadr you will eventually come to another conclusion for why it is called place of the skull, having to do with your head iguess

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

I agree with the above.
I also don't care for the KJV.
First of all there are some mistranslations in there which are
footnoted..why not just fix them?
It's too difficult to understand....first it needs to be translated!
It's a horrible bible for those of today that are much better off with
the one you mentioned. NLT...would that be The Living Bible? or an
offshoot of it? New Living Translation....The catholic Good News Bible is also good for this reason.

And yes, I also know some parishoners that are more holy than some priests.
This was also true for Protestant pastors when I lived over there.





You don't think asking how many works it takes to stay saved is silly because you don't agree with the concept. If you DID agree with it, it WOULD sound like a very silly question to you.

Isn't Jesus there to forgive us? What did He die for anyway?
So I didn't help a little old lady cross the street yesterday because I was tired or in a bad mood or who knows what. does this make me unsaved? No!
It's not what we do that counts,,,it's our attitude. Maybe I love making dinner...maybe one evening I hate it. So? I mean really, how does one measure faith? How does one measure works? Where's the list of what I'm supposed to do? There isn't one. It's like with a husband. We do our best,, nobody is perfect.
Does he leave us if we make a mistake and he gets upset? Or vice-versa....
It IS a silly question...think about it.

As to more faith being give, which I highlighted.
I've learned that it's grace that is given.
The more grace you need, the more you get.
Exactly how you described it above.
We have a sufficient amount of faith...it's the grace, which could also be called the help of the Holy Spirit, that gives us the strength to do more, if we can and/or want to. I do less now than some years ago. Am I lost?


ok, of course it's faith.
Faith saves us.
No faith and we become lost.

Works keep us saved in the sense that it shows we are obedient to God.
He wants us to give happily....of ourselves. Do we?
If not, there's a problem.
If so, then all is good.
Any amount of work is good because if we all do good deeds it helps the world to be a better place.



Right. There's a balance in raising children.
There could not be enough discipline...or there could be too much.
As to that man you speak of which had a detestable sin...
EVERY sin is detestable to God.
God is so holy that even a lie is hateful to Him.
So that person did not know God personally,,,or he didn't know the God we know.
I never would tell anyone that they have to stop doing anything....I believe that God has to tell them,,,not us. We could only make them aware and encourage.
When the right time comes, the sin will stop. It could take a really long time, the important thing is to keep God close. I used to teach my religion kids this...
they go thru a phase where they know they want to do not nice things (it could be just trying to smoke) so they leave God behind. I used to tell them never to leave God behind...

I think we are agreed on most things--any disagreement on doctrine is likely to be semantic in nature. The Bible brings unity to God's people.
I still don't think we have to do anything to preserve our eternal life--that once it is granted, it is ours. You seem to agree since you say that we will be forgiven for any "sins of omission" (as the RCC calls them)--that those sins (failing to do a good work is a sin--James 4:17) do not nullify eternal life--a gift. Perhaps God began with prohibitions ("Thou shall not...") because we understand that well. But then, He brought His people further along the path of holiness by showing those who thought it was good enough to obey the "Thou-shall-nots" (and ancient Israel even failed miserably at that!) that they were still sinful, because they neglected justice and mercy. God provided a way for them to be forgiven all, under the Blood of Christ, so that they could go to heaven to be with their Savior and one day be permanent residents of the New Jerusalem. Grace through faith.

 

[Grailhunter]

I think we are agreed on most things--any disagreement on doctrine is likely to be semantic in nature. The Bible brings unity to God's people.
I still don't think we have to do anything to preserve our eternal life--that once it is granted, it is ours. You seem to agree since you say that we will be forgiven for any "sins of omission" (as the RCC calls them)--that those sins (failing to do a good work is a sin--James 4:17) do not nullify eternal life--a gift. Perhaps God began with prohibitions ("Thou shall not...") because we understand that well. But then, He brought His people further along the path of holiness by showing those who thought it was good enough to obey the "Thou-shall-nots" (and ancient Israel even failed miserably at that!) that they were still sinful, because they neglected justice and mercy. God provided a way for them to be forgiven all, under the Blood of Christ, so that they could go to heaven to be with their Savior and one day be permanent residents of the New Jerusalem. Grace through faith.

You ladies ought to turn that into a sermon....well spoken!

 

[bbyrd009]

after God stopped speaking to Saul, why would He just decide to speak to him through a dead Sa(muel)?

well, God didnt say a Word i can read anywhere in There, so not quite sure what you mean there...i'll wait for your when the woman saw Saul reply fore we go any deeper tho i guess
my breath is all bated an everything!

 

[bbyrd009]

I think we are agreed on most things

ah, so.
who is "we"

any disagreement on doctrine is likely to be semantic in nature.

hmm, wanna bet?

The Bible brings unity to God's people.

ha, so...
...LC you are a pip, i tell ya what. If you was my old lady i'd be ahidin your shoes, narf

Ya Swords are known for that i guess huh
a man's enemies will not be those of his own house right
:kickrocks

 

[bbyrd009]

paging aaron now i guess

 

[bbyrd009]

I think we are agreed on most things

still love ya though k
i tell you what, ezackly the kind of woman i could love for an hour lol

 

[bbyrd009]

You don't think asking how many works it takes to stay saved is silly because you don't agree with the concept. If you DID agree with it, it WOULD sound like a very silly question to you.

oh, dont let her kid ya, she agrees with it just fine, push come to shove, ok?
She is strickly pretending there with you, and i could prove it too, just ask hr
yourchain/yanked

 

[GodsGrace]

I think we are agreed on most things--any disagreement on doctrine is likely to be semantic in nature. The Bible brings unity to God's people.
I still don't think we have to do anything to preserve our eternal life--that once it is granted, it is ours. You seem to agree since you say that we will be forgiven for any "sins of omission" (as the RCC calls them)--that those sins (failing to do a good work is a sin--James 4:17) do not nullify eternal life--a gift. Perhaps God began with prohibitions ("Thou shall not...") because we understand that well. But then, He brought His people further along the path of holiness by showing those who thought it was good enough to obey the "Thou-shall-nots" (and ancient Israel even failed miserably at that!) that they were still sinful, because they neglected justice and mercy. God provided a way for them to be forgiven all, under the Blood of Christ, so that they could go to heaven to be with their Savior and one day be permanent residents of the New Jerusalem. Grace through faith.

Agreed.
The shall nots are a few.
The doings are too many to list...
so we have to trust our heart, or love, or however you want to understand it.

I just want to make sure you understand that I'm not catholic.
You seem to bring this up often.
Not that there's anything wrong with it....and there's a lot right with it.
I just can't agree with some doctrine and you have to agree with all to call yourself a catholic.

If a person loves Jesus and seeks to serve God instead of the enemy,,,that's all I need to consider them a brother/sister in Christ.

 

[GodsGrace]

oh, dont let her kid ya, she agrees with it just fine, push come to shove, ok?
She is strickly pretending there with you, and i could prove it too, just ask hr
yourchain/yanked

Be nice bb.
Let's take persons at their word.
Till proven otherwise.

 

[bbyrd009]

Be nice bb.
Let's take persons at their word.
Till proven otherwise.

fine

 

[GodsGrace]

fine

That sounds like you're upset with me.
Are you?

 

[bbyrd009]

That sounds like you're upset with me.
Are you?

ah, no, ha funny thing, when i type a word i mean it literally. The insinuations, that might be inferred from say what a short answer there? I mostly dont do those. Wait, ya, i mean i was totally being the brat
no but srsly no response would be my goto there
i was just clowning

see, doesnt work when i do it? lol
i'm only funny when i'm not meaning to be

 

[stunnedbygrace]

ah, your point being? ty
i ask bc this was maybe directed at me?

Yeah, it was a reply to you. Not that I want to get you cranked up. But you keep talking about what Jesus said we are to do that we aren't doing (which I find new things all the time that He said that I'm not doing.) But you use leaving your house with no money (the 70), etc.

But God doesn't call everyone to the same exact things. He sent 72 men out, by two's, to the town's He was going to visit. My point was He sent out 72 men for that, not all the men. 72. And it seemed like you were...sort of looking at it like all men and women were to do it, which begins to seem like making it a law of sorts for all men. But there is where learning to hear and follow the Holy Spirit becomes important. He's the one who needs to lead, not every man going and doing the same exact thing.

 

[bbyrd009]

Yeah, it was a reply to you. Not that I want to get you cranked up. But you keep talking about what Jesus said we are to do that we aren't doing (which I find new things all the time that He said that I'm not doing.) But you use leaving your house with no money (the 70), etc.

that you arent doing? Oh, i dont mran that at all, sorry. That might even be a good characterization of our 20s? So ya dint mean to imply no one was doing it, i trust you are all doing it on some level ok. i have a blind spot i need you for, def

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

Agreed.
The shall nots are a few.
The doings are too many to list...
so we have to trust our heart, or love, or however you want to understand it.

I just want to make sure you understand that I'm not catholic.
You seem to bring this up often.
Not that there's anything wrong with it....and there's a lot right with it.
I just can't agree with some doctrine and you have to agree with all to call yourself a catholic.

If a person loves Jesus and seeks to serve God instead of the enemy,,,that's all I need to consider them a brother/sister in Christ.

You told me you weren't RC and I believed you--I speculated that you might be evangelical Anglican/Episcopalian or conservative Lutheran. Am I right?

 

[bbyrd009]

same exact thing.

now i will say that what you go and do is really irrelevant, yeh? i agree. you do not have to go and do amything. But ppl in their twenties go to different towns and eat what they are fed, sleep on the couch for the weekendp, absorb...stuff, right. So literal what you are doing that i can see with both eyes ya ppppfffff, there is a different kind of homo see one who does not accept anyone from any other belief system into their "we." They would naturally have some beliefs that they felt were backed by Holy Writings and would claim to be in one accord, in fact will be in a single basic assumption, that one thing we are all born with and all wonder about and all die with, true to the Cult that has flourished for thousands of years under different guises.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Yeah, you lost me again with that one byrd. Sorry. I'm trying to understand, really I am.