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[QUOTE]but it at least demonstrates God’s design for us to walk in the Light, to love one another, and to do kingdom work. This depends[/QUOTE].
Yes,agreed eph 5:1-17
Why not stick with the biblical God given language?
God chooses individuals living stones that he fits together;
eph1:
3 Blessed [is] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who did bless us in every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,
4 according as He did choose us in him before the foundation of the world, for our being holy and unblemished before Him, in love,
5 having foreordained us to the adoption of sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, in which He did make us accepted in the beloved,
Eph2;
21 in whom all the building fitly framed together doth increase to an holy sanctuary in the Lord,
22 in whom also ye are builded together, for a habitation of God in the Spirit.
Said no Calvinist ever. These errors are debunked by the very language. Leighton Flowers got destroyed trying to mention this, could not exegete anything to even hint at this idea.
No one says you have to be, but do not pretend. be who you are and own your view. That is all anyone ever asked of you.
people do not react against you primarily for where you stand, but for the other issues.
We disagree on what is the content of scripture. that in part is why these boards exist. You post what you want, I post what I want. Not what you try and censor me to say. The readers can look and consider.
When you cannot delete and censor my posts or other cals it makes a difference . In the other place you would have deleted most of what i posted...but let the reader decide, not you and your delete button
Of course, your own way, not the historic confessional faith, not Calvinism..own your view, do not pretend.
He elects each and every individual He purposes to save, that is the biblical fact. When people deny that biblical fact and you like their posts, that is telling.
It is all based on scripture
Okay , finally a biblical statement I can agree with you here as it is basically eph2;10But we do find that God created us in Christ Jesus for good works which He has prepared before hand that we walk in them.
[QUOTE]but it at least demonstrates God’s design for us to walk in the Light, to love one another, and to do kingdom work. This depends[/QUOTE].
Yes,agreed eph 5:1-17
.God chose a people. The elect are most often described as a people group. I believe that this by necessity means God chose individuals at least in the context that those in the group can look back to an origin in God’s love
Why not stick with the biblical God given language?
God chooses individuals living stones that he fits together;
eph1:
3 Blessed [is] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who did bless us in every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,
4 according as He did choose us in him before the foundation of the world, for our being holy and unblemished before Him, in love,
5 having foreordained us to the adoption of sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, in which He did make us accepted in the beloved,
Eph2;
21 in whom all the building fitly framed together doth increase to an holy sanctuary in the Lord,
22 in whom also ye are builded together, for a habitation of God in the Spirit.
But the language itself in Scripture does not rule out other interpretations like corporate election.
Said no Calvinist ever. These errors are debunked by the very language. Leighton Flowers got destroyed trying to mention this, could not exegete anything to even hint at this idea.
Said No Calvinist ever... These kind of things are why Calvinists know you are not one. You pick and choose things you claim you believe, and you might be sincere in your mind, but do not try and say you are a Calvinist, you are not.No, “in the beginning God created…”This is a logical fallacy (and liberty taken with Scripture. The bible does not say “before the world God choose a multitude of individuals”.
No one says you have to be, but do not pretend. be who you are and own your view. That is all anyone ever asked of you.
people do not react against you primarily for where you stand, but for the other issues.
.Here is where we HAVE to be honest with Scripture and lean not on our own understanding but on what is actually contained in God’s Word
We disagree on what is the content of scripture. that in part is why these boards exist. You post what you want, I post what I want. Not what you try and censor me to say. The readers can look and consider.
When you cannot delete and censor my posts or other cals it makes a difference . In the other place you would have deleted most of what i posted...but let the reader decide, not you and your delete button
,I believe that God choose a multitude of individuals in a way – but in another way
Of course, your own way, not the historic confessional faith, not Calvinism..own your view, do not pretend.
San omniscient God does not “choose”.
He elects each and every individual He purposes to save, that is the biblical fact. When people deny that biblical fact and you like their posts, that is telling.
[/QUOTE]there is always an issue when you start with an idea and then go back to support every iota of detail. This gets even more complicated as you base your concrete stance not on Scripture but on philosophical conclusions. It's a weak footing.
It is all based on scripture