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Giuliano

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That world core curriculum mentioned above was introduced 60 or so years ago. Your grandchildren are now being fully immersed in it.
I'd want to see materials currently in schools that reflect this material before I panic. It couldn't be in math or science, could it? What subjects would it be in? Civics? Talking about world peace?
 
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But ScottA you again provided your opinion on what I wrote, but provided no proof texts to show what my supposed error is. As for your provided scripture to show that Christ will return to the face of the earth, it lacked the confirmation of when the quoted scripture would actually take place.

Is it as I suspect, at the end of the Millennium Age?

My statement that your "response claiming that you tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth is hogwash and nothing less," can even be applied to the scripture you quoted to support your argument, as the Biblical scripture is used outside of its intended message content, then the quoted scripture joins the ranks of the rest of your post as hogwash.

Now if you were to rightly divide the word of God, as you often demonstrate that you cannot, then you posts may even be worth reading.

Now go chew your cud in the corner with the dunces' pointy hat on.
Open your eyes, I did not give you my opinion, I quoted the scriptures just as you asked. That was the "proof text" of your error.

If we are to continue...let us do so with you seeing and confessing that you were wrong about Christ returning "to the face of the earth." Specifically, you were wrong about "where", and therefore the scriptures I quoted are not "outside the message content", but right on.

Continuing on: No, Christ's return from going "to the Father" does not happen "at the end of the Millennium Age"...for He is present during that time, and therefore has come already. In order, as follows:

Jesus goes to the Father > Jesus returns to reign for a thousand years > then comes the end.
If we can agree upon this, then we can reason our way through "where" Jesus returns to, and just how that fits into the timeline. Then perhaps we can consider the times of the kingdom rather than the times of the world and of men.
 

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You know what, Scott? I doubt I could cite any source that would convince you of anything. Your mind is like Trump's in that if something disagrees with your views, you dismiss it. It makes discussions difficult; and it makes reaching any kind of agreement next to impossible. You can call what you believe "facts" -- and pretend that they are, I guess. Trump's doing it, and it looks to me as if he's falling apart at the seams.

His latest outrageous comment drew criticism from a Republican Congressman. It's getting too much even for some Republicans.

GOP lawmaker blasts Trump for quoting pastor warning of civil war over impeachment

Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger (Ill.) on Sunday criticized President Trump for quoting a pastor saying impeachment could trigger a "Civil War-like fracture" in the country.

"I have visited nations ravaged by civil war," Kinzinger tweeted.

"I have never imagined such a quote to be repeated by a President. This is beyond repugnant."

The rare rebuke from a Republican member of Congress came in response to Trump tweeting a quote from Pastor Robert Jeffress on Fox News.

"'If the Democrats are successful in removing the President from office (which they will never be), it will cause a Civil War like fracture in this Nation from which our Country will never heal'," Trump tweeted.


Are you ready to take up arms to fight a civil war if Trump is removed from office? He thinks his supporters would. He thinks he's that important.
No time for a long comment...but here is the reality you are speaking against:
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No time for a long comment...but here is the reality you are speaking against:
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So you're impressed by people who pray in public when Jesus said we shouldn't pray to be heard by others. . . .

I see Omarosa too. Do you know what she says about Trump now?

Don King was at that event.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/is-trump-racist-228472

King, clothed in a sparkling jacket and clutching the flags of Israel and the United States, argued repeatedly that “the system” had oppressed minorities and women and only Trump can upend it entirely.

“Every white woman should cast a vote for Donald Trump,” said King, who also went on an extended riff about the struggles of African-Americans.

“I told Michael Jackson, I said if you're poor, you're a poor Negro — I would use the N-word — but if you rich, you are a rich Negro; if you are intelligent, intellectual, you're an intellectual Negro; if you're a dancing and sliding and gliding n-----, I mean, Negro,” King said.

When Trump took his turn at the pulpit minutes later, he grinned, “Ah, there’s only one Don King.”

Before King, Cohen, Trump’s attorney, used his time at the church to slash at the “disgusting, liberal, mainstream media” and its casting of Trump as a “racist.”

Do you know what Cohen says about Trump now?
 
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I'd want to see materials currently in schools that reflect this material before I panic. It couldn't be in math or science, could it? What subjects would it be in? Civics? Talking about world peace?

Having researched education reform for many years, I'm familiar with Muller's World Core Curriculum. This info, from Charlotte Iserbyt's book The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America (p. 54), will connect some dots.

The offices of Lucis Trust(formerly Lucifer Publishing) which were previously located across from the United Nations Building in New York have offered for sale the Robert Muller World Core Curriculum (a New Age elementary education curriculum), written by Muller who served as the under secretary of the UN. The World Core Curriculum states that it is based on the teachings of Alice Bailey’s spirit guide, the Tibetan teacher Djwhal Khul.... It should be noted that the Robert Muller School is a member of the UNESCO Associated Schools Project, certified as a United Nations Associated School.
 
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Also from The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America (p. 283):

The reference to the United Nations’ University for Peace in Costa Rica brings former United Nations Under Secretary Robert Muller into the picture. Muller wrote his own World Core Curriculum which he credits to a demon spirit guide, Djhwan Khul, who gained notoriety in the early 1900s as the spirit guide of Theosophist Alice Bailey who wrote Education in the New Age (Lucis Publishing Company: New York, 1954).12 Muller also authored a novel in 1988 entitled First Lady of the World (World Happiness and Cooperation: Anacortes, Wash., 1991) in which his fictitious world leader enumerates a series of proposals necessary for the smooth running of a global society. A few of those proposals follow:

7. A World Core Curriculum and a Planetary Management Curriculum are adopted by UNESCO as common guides for proper Global Education in all schools and universities of Earth. 1996 is proclaimed International Year of Global Education....

11. More and more countries disarm, demilitarize and have their borders protected by UN observers under regional and international guarantees. The savings are devoted to devel- opment, the environment, education and social services....

15. A host of new world conferences are convened at an accelerated pace: on soil erosion, on mountain areas, reforestation, the world’s cold zones, consumer protection, standardization, world community, a world tax system, etc. (pp. 70–71)
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Co-masonry is the women's arm. Luciferianism is Satanism...regardless of what the occultists may tell you. And Bailey channels from who she calls the "Tibetan" whose name (one of them anyway) is Dawal Khul...a demon. Bailey's books, published by her own publishing comoany, Lucis Trust, (formerly Luciferian Publishing Co.) are the basis for modern education, as affirmed by the chief official in charge of the UN at the time, Robert Muller. More from him later.
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I've provided more info on Muller's World Core Curriculum above. ^^^
 
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I see stuff from Theosophy in those photos. I do not see links between them and Satanism or Freemasonry.

You do know that women can't be Freemasons?

Here's some info from Wikipedia about theosophy:

Theosophy is an esoteric religious movement established in the United States during the late nineteenth century. It was founded largely by the Russian émigrée Helena Blavatsky and draws its beliefs predominantly from Blavatsky's writings. Categorised by scholars of religion as both a new religious movement and as part of the occultist stream of Western esotericism, it draws upon both older European philosophies like Neoplatonism and Asian religions like Hinduism and Buddhism. (emphasis in bold added)
And info about Blavatsky:

In 1875, Blavatsky began work on a book outlining her Theosophical worldview, much of which would be written while staying in the Ithaca home of Hiram Corson, a Professor of English Literature at Cornell University. Although she had hoped to call it The Veil of Isis, it would be published as Isis Unveiled.[133] While writing it, Blavatsky claimed to be aware of a second consciousness within her body, referring to it as "the lodger who is in me", and stating that it was this second consciousness that inspired much of the writing. (emphasis in bold added)

 
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Having researched education reform for many years, I'm familiar with Muller's World Core Curriculum. This info, from Charlotte Iserbyt's book The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America (p. 54), will connect some dots.

The offices of Lucis Trust(formerly Lucifer Publishing) which were previously located across from the United Nations Building in New York have offered for sale the Robert Muller World Core Curriculum (a New Age elementary education curriculum), written by Muller who served as the under secretary of the UN. The World Core Curriculum states that it is based on the teachings of Alice Bailey’s spirit guide, the Tibetan teacher Djwhal Khul.... It should be noted that the Robert Muller School is a member of the UNESCO Associated Schools Project, certified as a United Nations Associated School.

Also from The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America (p. 283):

The reference to the United Nations’ University for Peace in Costa Rica brings former United Nations Under Secretary Robert Muller into the picture. Muller wrote his own World Core Curriculum which he credits to a demon spirit guide, Djhwan Khul, who gained notoriety in the early 1900s as the spirit guide of Theosophist Alice Bailey who wrote Education in the New Age (Lucis Publishing Company: New York, 1954).12 Muller also authored a novel in 1988 entitled First Lady of the World (World Happiness and Cooperation: Anacortes, Wash., 1991) in which his fictitious world leader enumerates a series of proposals necessary for the smooth running of a global society. A few of those proposals follow:

7. A World Core Curriculum and a Planetary Management Curriculum are adopted by UNESCO as common guides for proper Global Education in all schools and universities of Earth. 1996 is proclaimed International Year of Global Education....

11. More and more countries disarm, demilitarize and have their borders protected by UN observers under regional and international guarantees. The savings are devoted to devel- opment, the environment, education and social services....

15. A host of new world conferences are convened at an accelerated pace: on soil erosion, on mountain areas, reforestation, the world’s cold zones, consumer protection, standardization, world community, a world tax system, etc. (pp. 70–71)
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Is anything being being taught currently in schools as a result of this?
 
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Here's some info from Wikipedia about theosophy:

Theosophy is an esoteric religious movement established in the United States during the late nineteenth century. It was founded largely by the Russian émigrée Helena Blavatsky and draws its beliefs predominantly from Blavatsky's writings. Categorised by scholars of religion as both a new religious movement and as part of the occultist stream of Western esotericism, it draws upon both older European philosophies like Neoplatonism and Asian religions like Hinduism and Buddhism. (emphasis in bold added)
And info about Blavatsky:

In 1875, Blavatsky began work on a book outlining her Theosophical worldview, much of which would be written while staying in the Ithaca home of Hiram Corson, a Professor of English Literature at Cornell University. Although she had hoped to call it The Veil of Isis, it would be published as Isis Unveiled.[133] While writing it, Blavatsky claimed to be aware of a second consciousness within her body, referring to it as "the lodger who is in me", and stating that it was this second consciousness that inspired much of the writing. (emphasis in bold added)

I've read some of her stuff when a friend stayed with me. He had one of her books and I read a lot of it. I don't see how that fits in with things being taught in schools.
 

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So you're impressed by people who pray in public when Jesus said we shouldn't pray to be heard by others. . . .

I see Omarosa too. Do you know what she says about Trump now?

Don King was at that event.

Trump’s puzzling pitch to black voters

King, clothed in a sparkling jacket and clutching the flags of Israel and the United States, argued repeatedly that “the system” had oppressed minorities and women and only Trump can upend it entirely.

“Every white woman should cast a vote for Donald Trump,” said King, who also went on an extended riff about the struggles of African-Americans.

“I told Michael Jackson, I said if you're poor, you're a poor Negro — I would use the N-word — but if you rich, you are a rich Negro; if you are intelligent, intellectual, you're an intellectual Negro; if you're a dancing and sliding and gliding n-----, I mean, Negro,” King said.

When Trump took his turn at the pulpit minutes later, he grinned, “Ah, there’s only one Don King.”

Before King, Cohen, Trump’s attorney, used his time at the church to slash at the “disgusting, liberal, mainstream media” and its casting of Trump as a “racist.”

Do you know what Cohen says about Trump now?
Go ahead and focus on the dirt and say whatever you can against the hundreds of thousands praying for our president. But it is praying that we are suppose to be doing.
 
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Is anything being being taught currently in schools as a result of this?

The major influence of World Core Curriculum I have seen on schools is the emphasis on global education and citizenship. Back in the early 90s, this emphasis came into schools nationwide via Outcome-Based Education, introduced at the State level. Common Core is the federal version.
 

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I've read some of her stuff when a friend stayed with me. He had one of her books and I read a lot of it. I don't see how that fits in with things being taught in schools.

How informed are you about what the schools are teaching these days?
 

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Is anything being being taught currently in schools as a result of this?

Is it anything like the current "Common Core Curriculum" that's widespread from the Dept. of Education (Secretary of Education Betsy Devos)?
 

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How informed are you about what the schools are teaching these days?
Not at all. That's why I asked. I've seen things being implied, but I still don't see evidence that occultism is being taught in schools. The kids I talk to also don't seem to know much about the occult. I don't get it.
 

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Is it anything like the current "Common Core Curriculum" that's widespread from the Dept. of Education (Secretary of Education Betsy Devos)?
Who knows? I heard people complaining Common Core too, but they were vague about what they objected to.
 

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Go ahead and focus on the dirt and say whatever you can against the hundreds of thousands paying for our president. But it is praying that we are suppose to be doing.
I pray. I pray for the best outcome, most of the time I don't know what that is. The more I pray for him, the crazier he seems to get. He reminds me of Pharaoh.
 

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Muller's World Core Curriculum was implemented in a few schools worldwide, including a school in Arlington, TX. His greatest influence, however, as the former U.N. Assistant Secretary General was to get schools moving in the direction of global education through UNESCO, the education arm of the UN.

The following article is excellent. I encourage everyone who wants to understand the global nature of Common Core State Standards (CCSS) to read it.

Common Core Goes Global


The philosophy in the school room in one generation will become the philosophy of government in the next. — Abraham Lincoln

[A]t the request of educators I wrote the World Core Curriculum, the product of the United Nations, the meta-organism of human and planetary evolution. — Robert Muller, former U.N. Assistant Secretary General

The education reform known as Common Core State Standards (CCSS) for grades K-12, adopted by forty plus states and more than half of the U.S. dioceses, is designed to produce a universal “work force ready” population prepared to self-identify as “global citizens.” Many education professionals have been critical of CCSS. But even they may not know the philosophical reason why financiers like Bill Gates have bankrolled the Common Core system. The same sources of funding for Common Core in the United States are promoting similar methods and aligned texts world wide through the auspices of the United Nations.

In Crisis, readers learned that Common Core is financed with over $150 million from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. The collaboration of the Gates Foundation and the United Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) has been well publicized. In addition, Gates, on behalf of his Microsoft Corporation, signed a 26-page Cooperation Agreement in 2004 between Microsoft and UNESCO to develop a “master curriculum” which included benchmarks and assessments. The agreement stipulates that “UNESCO will explore how to facilitate content development.”​

You can read the rest of this article here: Common Core Goes Global - Crisis Magazine