Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

[bbyrd009]

I certainly "changed"

ah well, so you say, yes

I know we will always have users, liars, thieves and such and these are who I pray most for

and we appreciate your “prayers,” honest we do. Ty for your “prayers” ok

So, yes people, with the help of God CAN change

ok so then you get to make an obvious point ok, but understand that it may be at the expense of hearing two others; the poor you will always have with you

 

[bbyrd009]

Not following you here...what has this to do with "are we to just let anyone just walk all over us and use us?"

”never mind that, what about this?”

well Nancy, nothing, and everything, I guess. Release the wheel, reply to the Q, and see!

 

[bbyrd009]

Should we not be able to trust our fellow bros and sisters?

? Certainly not! (Insert relevant v here)

 

[Nancy]

ah well, so you say, yes

and we appreciate your “prayers,” honest we do. Ty for your “prayers” ok
ok so then you get to make an obvious point ok, but understand that it may be at the expense of hearing two others; the poor you will always have with you

"ah well, so you say, yes"

Oh Mark, you have no clue whence I came...

 

[bbyrd009]

I know some "Christians" who have some pretty rotten fruits and, give God and the Church a bad name.

Ah well ii guess experiences will vary; I have never met anyone that I could classify like that myself

 

[bbyrd009]

"ah well, so you say, yes"

Oh Mark, you have no clue whence I came...

ok, didn’t mean to say i did, sorry. Surely you are right

 

[Nancy]

ok, didn’t mean to say i did, sorry. Surely you are right

Well, I should know as it was me who has changed immensely. I no longer crave the things of this world, like I did for most of my life! Carousing, drinking, bars, sex outside of marriage...brought me nothing but heartache every time yet...I still continued to try and fill my life with worldly things to no adieu. MY cistern was full of holes and NOTHING fulfilled yet, I continued to seek that which could only come from God, His cup to the fullest! Never thought I would be where I am right now and I have nothing but gratitude that He opened my eyes, wide!

 

[amadeus]

"I was never able to get from man what I was always hoping to find when I walked only as a man of flesh with no understandable" connection with God."

This reminds me of a great sermon one of our pastors gave 2 summers ago in a series called "Psalms for Summer". He is our youngest pastor and I was blown away. I must have watched it about 4 times. He speaks about how so many people, Christians as well as un-believers, continually try to fill their own cisterns with sex, booze and all the worldly things that to many, think will one day fill them up and satisfy them. Then he goes on to talk about God's cup that over flows and never leaves you empty. We get little teasing tastes of the worldly things because our cisterns are full of holes. It was a great sermon and I would love if everybody saw it, especially the younger generation.
The takeaway was, "look at obedience as a gateway to all pleasures at His right hand" or something like that. Such truth in all he said and to me, it was a wow sermon. I would share it in the inbox if interested

There are still some of the "wow" sermons going forth. The problem is that not enough people are hearing or are even willing to listen. When Jesus got a little deeper, that is when many stopped listening and walked away from Him. I do spend a little time listening for good messages online. If you don't mind I would give that a try as well. Thanks...

 

[Nancy]

There are still some of the "wow" sermons going forth. The problem is that not enough people are hearing or are even willing to listen. When Jesus got a little deeper, that is when many stopped listening and walked away from Him. I do spend a little time listening for good messages online. If you don't mind I would give that a try as well. Thanks...

Wonderful! I will inbox you with it. If you know some younguns, this is something they should hear, IMHO!

 

[amadeus]

ah, so. well a i will tell you that if you eat at home and consider those Love Feasts and stop calling them "Church" you just never know ya know

While I do understand what you mean with the word, "Church", it still is a way to communicate at times. If, however, we don't explain what we really mean, someone may well receive the wrong message. Too many, unfortunately, don't really care anyway. Am I depressed?, No, more disappointed with myself as well as with others for our shortcomings. Help us dear Lord!

 

[amadeus]

ah no, i meant trust them all
you're going to get screwed in the natural, certainly, yes
i wouldnt give it any more thought than a dropped toy

Yeah, I think that I know what you mean. I am still nevertheless wishing things were different/better than they are for so many. I won't even say for the moment what I really mean because it would hurt others as well as me. Even having some things in my heart is an error on my part. Even as I am writing this, I really am also praying for God's help. Without Him, I surely can do nothing at all.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

There has been a sacrifice going on for centuries. It is the daily sacrifice of the Mass performed in the queen denominations in Israel. Though I agree with a lot of things in SG's post concerning the Zionist and Trump, I disagree that there has not been a sacrifice. The cart is being put before the horse . The sacrifice will be no longer, once it is cut off. Then what the scriptures pointed out , which state a sacrifice will not be in Jerusalem for some time , will apply. If SG considers the sacrifice of the synagogue of satan to be the sacrifice that has to be reestablished and (which is being), to be what is constituted as the sacrifice that is not, as in acclaimed practice ,then SG has missed the train.

Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

 

[amadeus]

@bbyrd009

amadeus said: ↑
except when I know that I am with God.

ah, so then when do you not know that you are With God end air quotes, amadeus.
You maybe got some expectations of ppl too?

i know this is a hard one, but God is doing that dream part i guess ok. And yeh it can be a nightmare too, from our perspective anyway. We walk through a valley of death after all right

At times I know absolutely that I am with God. There's that AT [absolute truth] wanting to sneak into our conversation, but probably the AT is not available to both us on the same point at the same time.

Then when I have moved [maybe only apparently moved] downward because of what I see and what I don't see, I have to surrender all over again. Is it really a new surrender, or is it clearing out some of the dead wood within me left over from all of the other times I have surrendered? Don't answer that question!

Sometimes as I am reading the Bible each morning (and other times as well) I get a little flash of insight from God which may or may not relate directly to what I am reading or what I am doing. Often, later [hours, days, months, years?], that little flash hooks up with something else, another piece toward completing my God-given vision, the one without which I would surely perish. Is this the "dream" or is it at times as you indicated... like unto a nightmare? When I cannot tell the difference [between the vision and the nightmare] in a moment, why is that? I am asking you but I am also asking God?

 

[CovenantPromise]

Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

Are you saying that the daily sacrifice that is going to be abolished is the killing of Christians to make way for the abomination of desolation??? If that is the purpose of that response , even the lowest in education would say that is silly and makes no sense. If you post that to me pointing out , that is how we are to live by professing the TRUTH in the WHOLE doctrine of Christ (self sacrificing) and thats what may happen -( we will be sacrificed), then I agree with that. But if the other then you really hate truth.

 

[amadeus]

Ah well ii guess experiences will vary; I have never met anyone that I could classify like that myself

Notice that @Nancy put the word, "Christians", in quotation marks. There was certainly a reason for that. It may be the same reason that you've never met someone you could classify that way. We are talking about rotten fruits, are we not? What does a tree produce? What is a tree? Then again what is a Christian according to...?

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Are you saying that the daily sacrifice that is going to be abolished is the killing of Christians to make way for the abomination of desolation??? If that is the purpose of that response , even the lowest in education would say that is silly and makes no sense. If you post that to me pointing out , that is how we are to live by professing the TRUTH in the WHOLE doctrine of Christ (self sacrificing) and thats what may happen -( we will be sacrificed), then I agree with that. But if the other then you really hate truth.

only pointing out there is a sacrifice ongoing...a living one which is acceptable unto the Lord.

 

[bbyrd009]

Yeah, I think that I know what you mean. I am still nevertheless wishing things were different/better than they are for so many. I won't even say for the moment what I really mean because it would hurt others as well as me. Even having some things in my heart is an error on my part. Even as I am writing this, I really am also praying for God's help. Without Him, I surely can do nothing at all.

Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

seems kinda suicidal, huh

 

[bbyrd009]

When I cannot tell the difference [between the vision and the nightmare] in a moment, why is that?

seems like you're asking why we suffer
we suffer because _______

we form and carry a like a model, an ideal for the 'vision,' 1959 or whatever, 1949, 39, doesnt matter, one could be found whose ideal was in the depths of a depression or war even, and they were just insulated from it, and we do some insulating, too i guess, not realizing that perceiving things as better once than they are now is also an indicator of our perspective of heaven, that magical place where all that we imagine heaven to be might manifest, not realizing that those would be the very worst things for us, as our multitude of real life examples might attest.

anyway i'm not seeing the v Quoted "trust ppl to do what you might expect," and i suspect we are still talking about expectations tbh. The pre-arranged script we form in our minds. Now this is a huge secret that i would never reveal if i thought anyone was listening lol, but if one can ignore their own p-a scripts and discover other ppls p-a scripts, for one its an unlimited growth market, but for another the nightmares pretty much go away lol. Ah ok wow i guess they dont go away just you do, sorta. Ya they just arent nightmares any more, change in perception

 

[Stan B]

Thank you for your Christian response. The very way that you come across is anti-Christian, authoritative, and unloving. What makes you think you're right and I'm wrong? Ask yourself that question.

I agree with Enoch. Your posts tend to be totally bizarre and hateful, and you tend to have no tolerance for truth. Your anti-semitic God-hating post about Zionism. I am not at all interested in what an apostate like David Stewart has to say about it. I have heard the declarations from many of Satan's servants like him. Satan's works are so transparent and familiar.

Unlike them, I have studied the Scriptures, and in those studies, Zionism is a prominent theme throughout Scripture from beginning to end. Ezekiel reveals in detail, God's Zionist plan for the End Times, and it is wonderful to see His plan unfolding before us.

 

[CovenantPromise]

only pointing out there is a sacrifice ongoing...a living one which is acceptable unto the Lord.

Are you saying His instituted Supper is not acceptable to the God? And that was not what I was pointing out with Daniel that you seem to be avoiding and your answer still does not make sense regarding that. It is simply as usual from your type a misapplication of scripture.
Daniel 12:11-
Michael's Deliverance and the End Times
…10Many will be purified, made spotless, and refined, but the wicked will continue to act wickedly. None of the wicked will understand, but the wise will understand. 11And from the time the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12Blessed is he who waits and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.…
Wow ! A lot of hatred for the truth in here. You really only love yourselves not Christ. You love your twisted version of Christianity but Not Truth which is the untwisted version. I have to laugh, because of all the selfish ambition and empty pride, none of you have the understanding of the true gospel .

The concubine denominations think they are the queen bee. They have absolutely NO grafting into the Olive Tree through direct establishment by the apostles. Yet feel they are greater in doctrine than the queens. The queens-(now due to their age ) were grafted in by the FIRST QUEEN above all queens who has had the promise fulfilled to Israel, in her.Through her and for all Israel to fullness of the faith God established with the OT patriarchs and matriarchs , completed in her is Christianity birthed as the Christ -She is the Immaculate Conception of THE VERY FIRST CHURCH . PROVE THAT WRONG!

The queen denominations hold the foundational teachings . The Protestants and all that which follow have removed all the meat, and deny the very truths Christ laid. You especially go off about Christ's mother. She was the first church's birth from the beginning. As I said the first church began in her and with her.Then you condemn the queens for having her when she is an institution established by Christ??? WEIRD!
If the weeds which have arisen among the assemblies of queens, have misused her name and Christ's Christ is going to handle them . If wolves in sheep's clothing arise, as we are told they would, Christ will deal with them through His Elect.Those who have played a harlot and gone against their vows by bedding devils and other kings (governments and their leaders ) Christ takes care of it through His Elect .What a joke all of this is the concubines are not Elect first fruits.That is why Christ is sending forth His Two Witnesses. You all might hate the queens but, they still surpass you in what they do hold. You are all simply an offshoot of that which was not personally grafted in by the apostles. You have not been grafted in by Mark as were the Coptic , or by Peter and Paul as was the Church of Rome, or by Matthias who established the Church in Ethiopia etc...... AND EVERY SINGLE QUEEN HAS ESTEEM-VENERATION which is what esteem means, for the Mother of Christ and the apostles. They know God is the God of the living not the dead. The dead are in hell, the living in the Holy Spirit in heaven. Absent in body means present in the authority of the Spirit of Christ. Christ's Mother is the Immaculate Conception of the Church, the Church was Immaculately conceived in Her Because Christ was Immaculately Conceived by her of the Holy Spirit and Incarnated of her flesh. WOW, devilish Pride makes people more stupid than the lowest in intellect and knowledge. I argue an idiot can recognize truth but devilish pride cannot. God will take care of any faults that have crept in amongst the queens , not you who does not even uphold all the Full doctrine of Christ and rejects His Mother at least the queens have the full foundation upheld in doctrine . You are only concubines, you are not even married to Him. You simply profess His name but do not do anything with authority in it. That is not granted to you.

And you are definitely no Shulammite.

Prove everything I said wrong. And remember scripture does not contradict scripture. If it says one thing in one place it is not going to contradict itself in another . If you think it does you are saying God is a house divided. Since He is not that simply means you are a house which is corrupt and misapply scripture.

EDITED -WRONG SCRIPTURE MISTAKENLY WHEN PASTED.