Labor To Enter Into What Rest?

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We agree that the law is what weeds out fake Christians. That's why John said, "...he that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His commandments is a liar and the truth (Jesus is the truth) is not in him". The person who claims we are at liberty to break the Sabbath or any other commandment has not Jesus in their heart - they have a devil in their heart, they are spoken of as "the least" when their name comes up in heaven, and they will hear Jesus say, "I never knew you, depart from Me ye that work lawlessness."
It's just that the New Covenant replaced all of the Old Covenant. And the Ten Commandments were the Old Covenant. You are needlessly entangled with obsolete rituals.
 

Phoneman777

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It's just that the New Covenant replaced all of the Old Covenant. And the Ten Commandments were the Old Covenant. You are needlessly entangled with obsolete rituals.
If the Ten Commandment law truly is the Old Covenant, then Romans 6:31 says Christians establish the Old Covenant. You should probably start slaughtering your sheep, sir. Or would you like to reconsider that claim in light of that verse:

"Do we then make void the law Old Covenant through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law Old Covenant." Romans 3:31
 

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The kingdom is here now and God's will being done. But only the born again can see or enter the kingdom.

“But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has already overtaken you.” (Luke 11:20) (NET)

What did Paul and Isaiah say about being begotten again?

Paul said, every knee will bow and every tongue shall confess that JESUS IS LORD.
He also said, if you will confess with your MOUTH the Lord Jesus and believe in
in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. (Romans 10:9)

So Philippians 2:10-11 says, there's not one knee that won't bow and one mouth that want
confess. That sounds like everyone will be saved to me.

But Isaiah said it best in Isaiah 45:23, I have sworn by myself, the word has gone out of my
mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that unto me EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW, EVERY
TONGUE SHALL SWEAR.

Yes, the Kingdom is here right now in individuals, but it will be here in a GREATER way when God
brings in nations in the near future. (Isaiah 2: 2-4.)

What a God! What a Plan!
Logabe
 
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What did Paul and Isaiah say about being begotten again?

Paul said, every knee will bow and every tongue shall confess that JESUS IS LORD.
He also said, if you will confess with your MOUTH the Lord Jesus and believe in
in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. (Romans 10:9)

So Philippians 2:10-11 says, there's not one knee that won't bow and one mouth that want
confess. That sounds like everyone will be saved to me.

But Isaiah said it best in Isaiah 45:23, I have sworn by myself, the word has gone out of my
mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that unto me EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW, EVERY
TONGUE SHALL SWEAR.

Yes, the Kingdom is here right now in individuals, but it will be here in a GREATER way when God
brings in nations in the near future. (Isaiah 2: 2-4.)

What a God! What a Plan!
Logabe
We were looking at that Philippians passage in our local church recently... :)
 

farouk

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What did Paul and Isaiah say about being begotten again?

Paul said, every knee will bow and every tongue shall confess that JESUS IS LORD.
He also said, if you will confess with your MOUTH the Lord Jesus and believe in
in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. (Romans 10:9)

So Philippians 2:10-11 says, there's not one knee that won't bow and one mouth that want
confess. That sounds like everyone will be saved to me.

But Isaiah said it best in Isaiah 45:23, I have sworn by myself, the word has gone out of my
mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that unto me EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW, EVERY
TONGUE SHALL SWEAR.

Yes, the Kingdom is here right now in individuals, but it will be here in a GREATER way when God
brings in nations in the near future. (Isaiah 2: 2-4.)

What a God! What a Plan!
Logabe
The new birth is really more of a New Testament doctrine than an Old Testament one. In the OT, the Spirit did not indwell as He did from Pentecost onward. Even though He mightily manifested Himself in the OT. (Zechariah 4.6)
 

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The new birth is really more of a New Testament doctrine than an Old Testament one. In the OT, the Spirit did not indwell as He did from Pentecost onward. Even though He mightily manifested Himself in the OT. (Zechariah 4.6)

At Pentecost we were begotten by God. In other words, God became our Father.
We no longer recognized our fleshly father (Adam) and that has been our struggle
on a daily basis.

Paul said we must die daily so we can walk in the Spirit and learn the ways of God.
In essence, God is teaching us his ways daily if we choose to allow him to do so. If
we choose to live the way the 1st Adam lived, then we have made the fleshly Adam
our father and it will be a hard row to hoe.

Logabe
 

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Jesus taught that the kingdom is spiritual, comes without observation, is within you, not of this world, you must be born again to see it or enter it. And so on. You are adding to Revelation if you say it is physical and in the future. It is here now.

He is not adding anything to God's Word. It is you that is lacking in study of God's Word.

The Zechariah 14 chapter is about the future event of Christ's return to this earth, and His rule over the nations, on earth in His Kingdom, on earth.

The Ezekiel 47 chapter is about His millennial sanctuary established on earth in the future, with the River of Revelation 22 flowing from it to feed other waters on the earth, specific locations given in the middle east. Given with that also are the many trees on each side of that River (i.e., the tree of life).

So really, you just need more Bible study instead of listening to the charlatans who are deceiving you.
 

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In Hebrews 4:9, believers in Christ were told that there remains a Sabbath rest unto the people of God, and in v.11 that they were to labor to enter into that rest.

What was it/ is it, and how were they/ are we to labor to enter into it?
It's the Sabbath rest of God, it's the 7th day, it's the Kingdom of God.