Revelation 11-the measure of the temple

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Heart2Soul

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Hey everyone.....so I am STILL studying Revelation....and this jumped out at me concerning the measuring of the temple....the outer court was not to be measured because it was given to the Gentiles who trampled it for 3.5 years.....
Revelation 11
And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

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H2S, you do what is measured right....... Revelation 11:1 "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein".

the temple of God is his people, 1 Corinthians 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?".

what kind of worship service is "U" doing, and getting. Micah 7:14 "Feed thy people with thy rod, the flock of thine heritage, which dwell solitarily in the wood, in the midst of Carmel: let them feed in Bashan and Gilead, as in the days of old".

Let's get started. your turn.

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H2S, you do what is measured right....... Revelation 11:1 "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein".

the temple of God is his people, 1 Corinthians 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?".

what kind of worship service is "U" doing, and getting. Micah 7:14 "Feed thy people with thy rod, the flock of thine heritage, which dwell solitarily in the wood, in the midst of Carmel: let them feed in Bashan and Gilead, as in the days of old".

Let's get started. your turn.

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How does this apply to the outer court? I am leaning towards the idea these are the ones who will be "the Harvest?"....
Here is what I know I have heard Him speak....the time of Restoration is now...God is restoring His Apostles and Prophets along with the other ministries He established in the first place.
The great Awakening is taking place now as is the great apostasy.
He is stirring up the gifts and callings of those He has chosen to help with the great outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
Those who have diligently sought out His Will, Truth, Wisdom and Knowledge and found His hidden wisdom will be the ones who are separated unto Him and who He places in His Church....to raise up disciples.. for the perfecting of the saints.
The Antichrist will reign immediately after Trump is out of office...Harvest Time begins.
These are what I have heard Him speak.
Things that have to happen which were prophesied to correlate with this time frame is the temple, the destruction of Damascus and the attack against Israel....
So this is why I was asking about the significance of the outer court being left unmeasured....are these the Harvest?
 
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Okay I went and read the whole chapter of Micah...so it makes much more sense to me.
 

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Oh and I am fine with being corrected....I have had some mentoring in my calling in the past but mentors are far and few between these days.
 
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How does this apply to the outer court? I am leaning towards the idea these are the ones who will be "the Harvest?"....
Here is what I know I have heard Him speak....the time of Restoration is now...God is restoring His Apostles and Prophets along with the other ministries He established in the first place.
The great Awakening is taking place now as is the great apostasy.
He is stirring up the gifts and callings of those He has chosen to help with the great outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
Those who have diligently sought out His Will, Truth, Wisdom and Knowledge and found His hidden wisdom will be the ones who are separated unto Him and who He places in His Church....to raise up disciples.. for the perfecting of the saints.
The Antichrist will reign immediately after Trump is out of office...Harvest Time begins.
These are what I have heard Him speak.
Things that have to happen which were prophesied to correlate with this time frame is the temple, the destruction of Damascus and the attack against Israel....
So this is why I was asking about the significance of the outer court being left unmeasured....are these the Harvest?
the Outer court is left out for 42 month is 3 1/2 years the life time of the ministry of the TWO witness. the Lord Jesus and John the baptist.

for 3 1/2 years the Gentiles is to be without word of God, Matthew 10:5 "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: (see it now H2S, NOT YET... :cool:)

Matthew 10:6 "But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

the Gentiles wait, for his word is coming to them. Read Isaiah 42:4 Isaiah 51:5

hence the ministry of the two witness to get the people ready for Gospel of the ... "WORLD". and it starst in Jerusalem with the two witness the Lord Jesus and John the Baptist, which the next few verses identify.

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the Outer court is left out for 42 month is 3 1/2 years the life time of the ministry of the TWO witness. the Lord Jesus and John the baptist.

for 3 1/2 years the Gentiles is to be without word of God, Matthew 10:5 "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: (see it now H2S, NOT YET... :cool:)

Matthew 10:6 "But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

the Gentiles wait, for his word is coming to them. Read Isaiah 42:4 Isaiah 51:5

hence the ministry of the two witness to get the people ready for Gospel of the ... "WORLD". and it starst in Jerusalem with the two witness the Lord Jesus and John the Baptist, which the next few verses identify.

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I GET IT!!!!! Oh thank you so much!
 

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How does this apply to the outer court? I am leaning towards the idea these are the ones who will be "the Harvest?"....
Here is what I know I have heard Him speak....the time of Restoration is now...God is restoring His Apostles and Prophets along with the other ministries He established in the first place.
The great Awakening is taking place now as is the great apostasy.
He is stirring up the gifts and callings of those He has chosen to help with the great outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
Those who have diligently sought out His Will, Truth, Wisdom and Knowledge and found His hidden wisdom will be the ones who are separated unto Him and who He places in His Church....to raise up disciples.. for the perfecting of the saints.
The Antichrist will reign immediately after Trump is out of office...Harvest Time begins.
These are what I have heard Him speak.
Things that have to happen which were prophesied to correlate with this time frame is the temple, the destruction of Damascus and the attack against Israel....
So this is why I was asking about the significance of the outer court being left unmeasured....are these the Harvest?
I wish people wouldn't go making predictions like that. You are going to be SO embarrassed in several years.
 
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I wish people wouldn't go making predictions like that. You are going to be SO embarrassed in several years.
Maybe so...and I also am humble enough to be corrected. What did He say to you...we all need to eventually be on the same page.
 
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I wish people wouldn't go making predictions like that. You are going to be SO embarrassed in several years.
that's ok, for we're here to learn, "ALL of us", but there is no embarrassed here. here's why,
1 Corinthians 3:15 "If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

so if we get it wrong now, but find out now, and make the corrections SALVATION is still there, yes we suffer the LOSS OF NOT KNOWING THE TRUTH. so discussing the word of God is GOOD just as Captian Cornelius in Acts 10.

it is good to speak of God's Holy word in a setting like this.

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H2S, if you like we can get to the two witness and the restoring the TRUE TEMPLE of God.

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I'm not going to be trying to "correct" anyone. I have studied Revelation since before you were born, H2S, and I still am not as positive about my views as most of the people here seem to KNOW they are. The difference may be that I have not limited my studying to only those who felt the same way I did.
 

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Revelation 11:3 "And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth”.
a thousand two hundred and threescore days is exactly 42 months or 3 1/2 years, the exact length, or measure of the Lord Jesus and John the Baptist ministry. the Lord Jesus 3 years, and John's 6 month before. And the POWER that fueled this ministry is God himself the Holy Spirit. (which we wiill get to in detail in the next verse).

Cloths in sackcloth, meaning preaching repentance. sackcloth means penitence. and the definition of penitence is the action of feeling or showing sorrow and regret for having done wrong; repentance. the first thing out of John the Baptist mouth, "REPENT". Scripture, Matthews 3:1 "In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, 2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight". now the Lord Jesus, (This is the first clue as to John as the other witness). Scripture, Matthews 4:16 "From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand". so we have the two witness, John and the Lord Jesus. But lets go on.

prophesy here means to Preach, as said Prophets Perach. the the very first message of the Gospel is to "REPENT".

as said, the Power is clearly Identified in the next verse, verse 4. and we'll get to that next.

but If you have something add, or correct please do. or something you have to give more clarity.

so their ministry is the one of as, now, "REPENTANCE"

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I'm not going to be trying to "correct" anyone. I have studied Revelation since before you were born, H2S, and I still am not as positive about my views as most of the people seem to KNOW they are. The difference may be that I have not limited my studying to only those who felt the same way I did.
Neither do I.....in fact I have never shared this much detail on the forum about what I have seen and heard from the Him.
 

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I'm not going to be trying to "correct" anyone. I have studied Revelation since before you were born, H2S, and I still am not as positive about my views as most of the people seem to KNOW they are. The difference may be that I have not limited my studying to only those who felt the same way I did.
well please share them, edify the body of christ.

thanks in advance.

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Revelation 11:3 "And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth”.
a thousand two hundred and threescore days is exactly 42 months or 3 1/2 years, the exact length, or measure of the Lord Jesus and John the Baptist ministry. the Lord Jesus 3 years, and John's 6 month before. And the POWER that fueled this ministry is God himself the Holy Spirit. (which we wiill get to in detail in the next verse).

Cloths in sackcloth, meaning preaching repentance. sackcloth means penitence. and the definition of penitence is the action of feeling or showing sorrow and regret for having done wrong; repentance. the first thing out of John the Baptist mouth, "REPENT". Scripture, Matthews 3:1 "In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, 2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight". now the Lord Jesus, (This is the first clue as to John as the other witness). Scripture, Matthews 4:16 "From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand". so we have the two witness, John and the Lord Jesus. But lets go on.

prophesy here means to Preach, as said Prophets Perach. the the very first message of the Gospel is to "REPENT".

as said, the Power is clearly Identified in the next verse, verse 4. and we'll get to that next.

but If you have something add, or correct please do. or something you have to give more clarity.

so their ministry is the one of as, now, "REPENTANCE"

PICJAG.
Okay so this is still pointing to the reaping the harvest...yes?....if this is a different time frame then I need the scales off my eyes to see more clearly.
 

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No, that is not my purpose in life. You must believe as you will.
well willie, "how can two walk together unless they agree?". if I'm in ERROR, I would like to know now instead of before his throne standing in judgment.

the whole purpose of the saints is to shine light on the scriptures so that others my see.

I hope you relent and change your mind.

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