Part of the Beast System?

[Angelina]

We have been watching with interest, lots of satellites passing over the night sky in our part of the world from Elon Musk's, SpaceX
launches Elon Musk's SpaceX satellites lining up over New Zealand

Just a thought: Do you think he is knowing/unknowingly part of the last days beast system?

 

[101G]

First thanks for the topic, as I'm entering chapter 13 of the book of Revelation, the identity of this beast that is now is into science as well as other areas.
as to if he know I don't know that for sure, but many who have played in life changing monuments in history thought that what they was doing was for the Good of all men, but came to the conclusion it was the opposit. example, J. Robert Oppenheimer: "I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

PICJAG.

 

[Keraz]

We have been watching with interest, lots of satellites passing over the night sky in our part of the world from Elon Musk's, SpaceX
launches Elon Musk's SpaceX satellites lining up over New Zealand

Just a thought: Do you think he is knowing/unknowingly part of the last days beast system?

No.
What multi billionaires play with has no relevance to the events of the final few years before Jesus Returns.

Re satellites; Revelation 6:13 The stars in the sky fell to the earth like ripe figs.....
I believe this refers to our thousands of satellites. Some think meteors or asteroids, but they are not seen as stars in our sky now and that prophecy doesn't say there will be any damage caused by this happening.
Those satellites and all the space junk up there, will be forced to crash back to earth by the pressure wave of a huge Coronal Mass Ejection. It will be the forthcoming Sixth Seal worldwide disaster that will commence all the end time events as plainly prophesied and lead up to the glorious Return of Jesus for His Millennium reign.

 

[marks]

We have been watching with interest, lots of satellites passing over the night sky in our part of the world from Elon Musk's, SpaceX
launches Elon Musk's SpaceX satellites lining up over New Zealand

Just a thought: Do you think he is knowing/unknowingly part of the last days beast system?

I wouldn't for a moment be surprised!

 

[marks]

Re satellites; Revelation 6:13 The stars in the sky fell to the earth like ripe figs.....
I believe this refers to our thousands of satellites. Some think meteors or asteroids, but they are not seen as stars in our sky now and that prophecy doesn't say there will be any damage caused by this happening.

This wouldn't surprise me either!

Instead of a coronal mass ejection, or maybe alongside it, have you thought about a wandering planet coming between the earth and the sun during a lunar eclipse? The sun turned to blackness and the moon to blood? And all this other stuff going on, stars falling, worldwide earthquakes . . .

Much love!

 

[Keraz]

This wouldn't surprise me either!

Instead of a coronal mass ejection, or maybe alongside it, have you thought about a wandering planet coming between the earth and the sun during a lunar eclipse? The sun turned to blackness and the moon to blood? And all this other stuff going on, stars falling, worldwide earthquakes . . .

All the things so vividly described can and will be caused by a Coronal Mass Ejection, a explosion of the suns surface of an unprecedented magnitude. Just as Isaiah 30:26, Psalms 50:1-3, Malachi 4:1 & 3, + , inform us.

A wandering planet is impossible and simply would not cause all the effects described. Why not believe that a CME will be instigated by the Lord, we know they do happen and such a disaster will be thought of as a 'natural event', allowing the secular survivors to continue in their atheism and to follow the Anti-Christ. All as told to us in the Prophetic Word.

 

[marks]

Why not believe that

To me it's all theories right now. Its an interesting point of view, I'm not sure about the science, but like I said, as far as I can tell, we're just tossing around ideas. I wouldn't be surprised to find that a CME may be used by God at the end of the age.

Much love!

 

[Keraz]

Worldwide devastation from a Coronal Mass Ejection:

Isaiah 24:1-6 Be warned, the Lord is about to strip the earth, split it and turn it upside down and scatter its inhabitants. Everyone will be affected.
The earth dries up and withers, it is desecrated by those who live in it. They have broken My Laws and violated My covenant, that is why a curse consumes the earth and its peoples suffer, their numbers dwindle, only a few are left.
The Lords Day of vengeance and wrath by a CME strikes the earth, affecting all its inhabitants. Isaiah 63:1-6, Revelation 6:12-17, Habakkuk 3:12

Isaiah 24:7-13 Crops fail, the people are shocked and anxious. Their cities are in chaos and their houses shuttered and locked. Nothing but desolation is left in the towns, the bridges and highways are destroyed. So it will be throughout the world, among the nations, as an olive tree is beaten and stripped.
Cities and towns will become uninhabitable – no food, power or water and roads impassable. “Suddenly, in a single Day” is mentioned in Isaiah 10:7 & Isaiah 47:9 All the nations of the world face the sun over a 24hr period. A huge Coronal Mass Ejection will strike all the earth in one rotation. Isaiah 30:26a, Malachi 4:1

Isaiah 24:14-16a People from the West and the East, acclaim the Lord. In the coasts and islands of the sea, we hear them sing- from the ends of the earth, glorifying the God of Israel.
As Isaiah 30:26b says: ‘On that Day, I will save My people’. They will praise the Lord for their salvation. Isaiah 66:8.

Isaiah 24:16b-20 But, there will be trouble for the earth on the Day that the Lord opens the window of heaven and shakes the earth’s foundation. It will lurch and sway like a drunkard and whoever tries to escape will be caught, like in a trap.
There will be worldwide earthquakes. The unrighteous will be punished- no one will escape. Jeremiah 4:23-29, Luke 21:35

Isaiah 24:21-23 On that Day, the Lord will punish the powers in the heavens above and the leaders on the earth below. They will be made prisoners, punished for a long time. The sun and moon will grow pale. God will reign in Jerusalem and will be revealed in His glory to the elders of His people.
Reference: REB verses abridged.

The sky will be darkened for a while because of the smoke and ash clouds. The Lord’s faithful Christian people will move to and settle in New Israel. The Glory of God will return into the rebuilt Temple. Ezekiel 43:1-9 The elders and leaders, Hosea 1:11, Jeremiah 30:21, will know Him, as in ancient times, with Abraham, Moses and David, etc. Jeremiah 30:21

All this is before the Return of Jesus: at that time; He will come on the clouds with His angels, visible to all. He destroys the armies of the Anti Christ on the Great Day of the Sovereign Lord. Rev. 16:14

It is the terrifying and shocking, worldwide Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, the next prophesied event, what is described in Isaiah 24

Note; that there is absolutely no hint of a ‘rapture’ of anyone at this time. The Lords people, every faithful Christian, will gather and settle in the new country of Beulah, in all that area promised to Abraham. Isaiah 62:1-5 Jeremiah 23:3-4. Ezekiel 48:1-29

The survivors of the world’s peoples will organize a one world government, as their leaders have gone. 10 regions will be established, each led by a President. It will not be long before one of them assumes full dictatorial powers. You know the rest of the story!

 

[michaelvpardo]

Just a thought: Do you think he is knowing/unknowingly part of the last days beast system?

If you can accept the notion that we have entered the time of sorrows, the "travail" of the Earth , then everything happening in the world will be contributing to that final world system presided over by the "antichrist". I don't believe that any one person or group of people are intentionally working toward creating that system, but there is a Masonic ideal or prophecy that free masonry holds in high regard. One of a utopian worldwide society that some of them have worked at forwarding for centuries now. They don't pursue evil as such, but world peace through brotherly love, an "artificial" kingdom of God. The United States was viewed by some if it's Masonic founders as an experiment in government intended to create such a utopian society.
While I've always loved the high ideals upon which my country was founded, it would be naive to consider the nation to be outside the system of this world, and I'm inclined to believe that it remains central in the creation of that final system we anticipate. It is very much like the Roman empire of Christ's time, exporting political culture while looting the world's wealth through corporate policies.
I'd like to be wrong about this. I love the country of my birth, but the nation is no longer the one that I grew up in. Ultimately, time will tell and I believe that these things shall become apparent before our eyes.

 

[Anthony D'Arienzo]

No.
What multi billionaires play with has no relevance to the events of the final few years before Jesus Returns.

Re satellites; Revelation 6:13 The stars in the sky fell to the earth like ripe figs.....
I believe this refers to our thousands of satellites. Some think meteors or asteroids, but they are not seen as stars in our sky now and that prophecy doesn't say there will be any damage caused by this happening.
Those satellites and all the space junk up there, will be forced to crash back to earth by the pressure wave of a huge Coronal Mass Ejection. It will be the forthcoming Sixth Seal worldwide disaster that will commence all the end time events as plainly prophesied and lead up to the glorious Return of Jesus for His Millennium reign.

Totally wrong. This has no biblical support.

 

[Anthony D'Arienzo]

This wouldn't surprise me either!

Instead of a coronal mass ejection, or maybe alongside it, have you thought about a wandering planet coming between the earth and the sun during a lunar eclipse? The sun turned to blackness and the moon to blood? And all this other stuff going on, stars falling, worldwide earthquakes . . .

Much love!

No...those verses have been fulfilled already.

 

[Jay Ross]

We have been watching with interest, lots of satellites passing over the night sky in our part of the world from Elon Musk's, SpaceX launches Elon Musk's SpaceX satellites lining up over New Zealand

Just a thought: Do you think he is knowing/unknowingly part of the last days beast system?

Your question is very valid, but the present launching of SpaceX Satellites is over 1,000 years before we will see the establishment of the beastly system as is recorded in Rev 13 as already suggested. That is not to say that the resent day technology will not assist the Beast that manifests itself from the sea of humanity as recorded in Rev 13, and also described as rising up out of the Bottomless Pit

in Rev 17:7-8 where the description of the beast in bottom chapters is fairly identical to the End Times beast described in Daniel 7:19ff.

The understanding that is required is that God has set out the timeline for what is still to happen during the end times and has precisely told us when the Beasts that will shortly be imprisoned in the Pit, Isa 24:21-22, will return as the Beast during the last 20-30 years of the Millennium Age.

We should not be afraid of what is to come, because God has already told us what and when to expect the prophesised events towards the very end of the Age of the Ages.

What God expects of His Saints at this present time is for them to believe and have faith in Him alone and that Satan will fail in his plans to rise up and overwhelm God's Saints who will overcome the Beast/Satan with the blood of the Lamb.

As someone recently posted on this forum, keep your eyes on the Lord and keep giving Him the Glory that He so richly deserves.

Shalom
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[n2thelight]

Re satellites; Revelation 6:13 The stars in the sky fell to the earth like ripe figs.....
I believe this refers to our thousands of satellites. Some think meteors or asteroids, but they are not seen as stars in our sky now and that prophecy doesn't say there will be any damage caused by this happening.

Stars are the Angels

Revelation 6:13 "And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely [unripe] figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind."

Word References:

"untimely figs" - 3653 olunthos (ol'-oon-thos); of uncertain derivation; an unripe (because out of season) fig: KJV-- untimely fig.

The trouble starts in heaven, as it is written in Revelation 12:7-9, where Michael casts Satan upon the earth. When Satan is gone, then there is peace in heaven, but woe to them on the earth for his destination is earth.

Job 38:7 "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for Joy?"

 

[n2thelight]

What one needs to understand is the fact that most of all end time prophecy is about deception.

 

[n2thelight]

The angels from G6 are coming back and their leader from the Garden will lead them.

 

[n2thelight]

The beast system is the one world government, that will fail,(deadly wound)satan pretending to be Christ heals the wound, remember satan and his angels are supernatural, this won't be about people being possessed, these angels will be here on this earth physically, that's why the whole world will be deceived.
Can't tell anyone here what to believe, but if you're looking for a rapture, it ain't gonna happen...

 

[marks]

No...those verses have been fulfilled already.

When?

 

[Anthony D'Arienzo]

When?

At Pentecost.

 

[Keraz]

At Pentecost.

Failure to provide scriptural support for your ideas, means your opinion is worthless.
Satan and his angels are not thrown down from heaven until 3 1/2 years before Jesus Returns. Proved by Revelation 12:6-9

Re the 'stars' in Revelation 6:13.
This prophecy is talking about physical things; the sun, moon, nountains, etc. Not spiritual things, like angels.
As the nearest actual star is 4.25 light years away and they are mostly huge like our sun; it cannot be referring to them.
I believe it refers to our satellites, as the ejecta from the sun pushes them back to the earth. This has happened before, in a small way.

 

[Anthony D'Arienzo]

Keraz,

Failure to provide scriptural support for your ideas, means your opinion is worthless.

I can give biblical support. Your false conclusions will fall like dominos.

Satan and his angels are not thrown down from heaven until 3 1/2 years before Jesus Returns. Proved by Revelation 12:6-9

You are confusing the symbols which is why your conclusion takes a left turn for the worse.
Marks was asking about the symbols from joel2, fulfilled at Pentecost:Acts2:16

Re the 'stars' in Revelation 6:13.
This prophecy is talking about physical things; the sun, moon, nountains, etc. Not spiritual things, like angels.
As the nearest actual star is 4.25 light years away and they are mostly huge like our sun; it cannot be referring to them.
I believe it refers to our satellites, as the ejecta from the sun pushes them back to the earth. This has happened before, in a small way.

You are offering the correct verses for the most part, [Isa24} for instance, Keraz.....but I believe it can be shown biblically that you are not applying them correctly.