Is Any Denomination Saved?

[Renniks]

Such as??

Such as all religions being God's will.
"Thepluralism and the diversity of religions… are willed by God.” That’s quite a concession for Francis to make, as it contradicts Christ’s claim that “I am the way and the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father but by me.” (Jn. 14:6).
He has also referred to proselytism as “solemn nonsense.”

Hmm... What did Jesus have to say about that?
Mark 16:15

 

[BreadOfLife]

""Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." - G.K. Chesterton
Exposing anti-Catholic lies online for 17 years . . ."

For 17 years? Sounds like pride to me.

There is an anti-Catholic saying that Catholics talk out of both sides of their mouths.

When you defend the practice towards Mary, you can't prove that they are abstaining from all appearances of evil. The world can see them treating Mary at that idol, and Protestant Christians can see Catholics treating Mary at that idol so Catholics are hardly heeding Paul's words to abstain from all appearances of evil.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

You may say it doesn't matter what others see because they are in error in seeing that, but yet you are called to be a light to the world for why you are to abstain from all appearances of evil so sinners can depart from their idol worships and for Catholic & Protestant Christians not to stumble either. What we have here is an epic fail of the CC, but pride will have them keep on doing it just as your pride will in not admitting that failure.

Thanks for PROVING my point that you anti-Catholics lie.
That's why I put "Worshiping" Mary at the top of my anti-Catholic list of LIES.

As for your complete abuse of 1 Thess. 5:21 - should Catholics stop receiving the Eucharist because it "appears" evil to Protestants??
I know Protestans who say the Mass is "evil". Should we stop going??

Paul's admonition in 1 Thess. 5:21 was NOT against practicing your faith before non-believers. It was about doing things that were not only evil - but to "abstain from "every form of evil."

He's NOT talking about things that may appear evil to others and are NOT. If that were the case, you wouldn't have tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering Protestant sects that ALL teach different doctrines - SOME of which are rejected as "evil" by others.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Such as all religions being God's will.
"Thepluralism and the diversity of religions… are willed by God.” That’s quite a concession for Francis to make, as it contradicts Christ’s claim that “I am the way and the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father but by me.” (Jn. 14:6).
He has also referred to proselytism as “solemn nonsense.”

Hmm... What did Jesus have to say about that?
Mark 16:15

No Pope has ever stated this - in context.

You are misquoting Pope Francis, who clarified this comment by stating that God "ALLOWS" religious variation and error.
If this were NOT true - then you wouldn't have tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering Protestant sects that ALL teach different doctrines - yet ALL claim they are teaching "Truth" . . .

 

[Illuminator]

Your popes are forever making unbiblical statements. If you can't even trust your head guy who is supposed to speak for God himself, you might have a problem.

 

[Enow]

And yet isn't he the Pope that said for Catholics not to convert any unbeliever?

Pope says Christians should never seek to convert unbelievers, anyone who proselytizes "is not a disciple of Jesus"

"Pope says Christians should never seek to convert unbelievers, anyone who proselytizes "is not a disciple of Jesus" by Adam Ford · Dec 22nd, 2019 1:53 pm In a dialogue with Catholic high school students in Rome this weekend, Pope Francis responded to a question about how to deal with atheists and people of other faiths by saying that Christians should never proselytize — and any who do are not truly Christians."

Since you guys say we are not really Christians, what are you guys doing here then?

 

[Renniks]

No Pope has ever stated this - in context.

You are misquoting Pope Francis, who clarified this comment by stating that God "ALLOWS" religious variation and error.
If this were NOT true - then you wouldn't have tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering Protestant sects that ALL teach different doctrines - yet ALL claim they are teaching "Truth" . . .

Ah yes, the papal infallibility. Always the need to explain away any blunders. When Protestants have a bad leader all they have to say is he doesn't speak for God.
You have to explain away popes who tortured people, or commit adultery, etc. Ever wonder why we can't take your church seriously?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Ah yes, the papal infallibility. Always the need to explain away any blunders. When Protestants have a bad leader all they have to say is he doesn't speak for God.
You have to explain away popes who tortured people, or commit adultery, etc. Ever wonder why we can't take your church seriously?

Sooooo, YOU misquoted the Pope - and I exposed you for it.
NOW, it's a matter of "infallibility"??

Infallibility never played into this. YOU stuck your foot in your mouth and got caught.
That's about the size of it . . .

 

[Truther]

WOW.
You're really a LOT more ignorant that I gave you credit for.

Unfortunately for YOU - the discussion about tongues and other gifts of the Spirit doesn't end in 1 Cor. 12. It continues ALL the way through 1 Cor. 14 - and the "tongues" spoken of are NOT about "known tongues" as YOU so ignorantly claim. It is talking about tongues that either have NO public interpretation - or NEED an interpretation in order for them to be efficacious to the congregation.

I gotta ask this because your posts are SO idiotic:
If you have a learning disability - I apologize a thousand times.
If not, and you are simply ignorant - then you really need to enroll in an intensive Bible study . . .

Here is the Bible explanation to a Catholic that does not speak in tongues.
1 Cor 12 teaches 9 gifts of the Spirit.
Chapter 14 explains how they function, describing unknown tongues and various known tongues.
It is very easy to understand, except to folk like the Roman Catholic that has never been exposed to or experienced it for himself.

 

[Earburner]

Christians come in both categories. But in Christ is no sin at all.

And the answer is: if you are IN Christ, the Father does NOT SEE your sin, because of Christ. That is all the Father sees, which is what Colossians 3 is saying. [1] If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
[2] Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
[3] For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
[4] When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

 

[Episkopos]

And the answer is: if you are IN Christ, the Father does NOT SEE your sin, ??????? because of Christ. That is all the Father sees, which is what Colossians 3 is saying. [1] If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
[2] Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
[3] For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
[4] When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

Men are blind....not God. So you are misrepresenting God here.

Jesus doesn't make God blind. You are believing a HUGE lie here. God sees the hidden things...He sees the secrets of men. And ALL things will be revealed on judgment day (not hidden as you suppose)

 

[Truther]

And the answer is: if you are IN Christ, the Father does NOT SEE your sin, because of Christ. That is all the Father sees, which is what Colossians 3 is saying. [1] If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
[2] Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
[3] For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
[4] When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

Excellent post.

 

[Earburner]

Men are blind....not God. So you are misrepresenting God here.

Jesus doesn't make God blind. You are believing a HUGE lie here. God sees the hidden things...He sees the secrets of men. And ALL things will be revealed on judgment day (not hidden as you suppose)

How sad that you don't know HOW your sins were REMOVED by the shed blood of Christ.

Heb. 9[22] And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

Jer. 31[34] And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD; for I will forgive their iniquity, and
I will remember their sin no more.

 

[Episkopos]

How sad that you don't know HOW your sins were REMOVED by the shed blood of Christ.

Heb. 9[22] And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

Jer. 31[34] And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD; for I will forgive their iniquity, and
I will remember their sin no more.

Being forgiven is not the same as God being blinded to our sins. I support a merciful God...not a blind divinity.

Luther was way off.

 

[Earburner]

Men are blind....not God. So you are misrepresenting God here.

Jesus doesn't make God blind. You are believing a HUGE lie here. God sees the hidden things...He sees the secrets of men. And ALL things will be revealed on judgment day (not hidden as you suppose)

You haven't figured it out yet!

Jesus Himself IS God's judgment NOW!
KJV John 3[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned:
but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

 

[Earburner]

"I will remember their sin no more,"
Q. Do you remember your sins?
A. Unless you are brain dead, of course you do.

Q. So, how is it that God the Father doesn't remember a believer's sins?
A. Colossians 3[3] For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.

Q. What does that mean?
A. 1 John 3[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Here is the Bible explanation to a Catholic that does not speak in tongues.
1 Cor 12 teaches 9 gifts of the Spirit.
Chapter 14 explains how they function, describing unknown tongues and various known tongues.
It is very easy to understand, except to folk like the Roman Catholic that has never been exposed to or experienced it for himself.

Uh huh - except for the fact that 1 Cor. 12 states that tongues are not THE evidence of the Spirit as YOU ignorantly claim.
They are merely ONE of the gifts.

Context, Einstein - read the Scriptures in CONTEXT . . .

 

[Truther]

Uh huh - except for the fact that 1 Cor. 12 states that tongues are not THE evidence of the Spirit as YOU ignorantly claim.
They are merely ONE of the gifts.

Context, Einstein - read the Scriptures in CONTEXT . . .

Funny how you argue about something you don't personally practice.

Now, here is the gift of various known language tongues in chapter 12....


7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:


Now, here is unknown tongues that chapter 14 describes....


2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.


....by which the Catholic does not speak unto God.

Paul wishes who to speak with unknown tongues?....


5 I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.


....which the Catholic wishes he would not speak with unknown tongues.

Catholic, you need the baptism of the Holy Ghost and water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins,....not more statues.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Funny how you argue about something you don't personally practice.
Now, here is the gift of various known language tongues in chapter 12....
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
Now, here is unknown tongues that chapter 14 describes....
2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
....by which the Catholic does not speak unto God.
Paul wishes who to speak with unknown tongues?....
5 I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
....which the Catholic wishes he would not speak with unknown tongues.
Catholic, you need the baptism of the Holy Ghost and water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins,....not more statues.

In your abject ignorance - you highlighted the wrong phrases.

I fixed that for you above in RED. to make you understand that tongues are "A" gift of the Spirit - not "THE" gift.
To ONE, the gift of miracles - to ANOTHER, prophecy, to ANOTHER discerning of spirits, to ANOTHER, tongues, etc.

Paul goes on to clarify that NOT all will have the same gifts
Now, pay attention, Einstein . . .
1 Cor. 12:29-31
Are ALL apostles? Are ALL prophets? Are ALL teachers? Do ALL work mighty deeds? Do ALL have gifts of healing? Do ALL speak in tongues? Do ALL interpret? Strive eagerly for the greatest spiritual gifts.

You embarrass yourself when you quote Scriptures you don't understand . . .

 

[Earburner]

Funny how you argue about something you don't personally practice.

Now, here is the gift of various known language tongues in chapter 12....


7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:


Now, here is unknown tongues that chapter 14 describes....


2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.


....by which the Catholic does not speak unto God.

Paul wishes who to speak with unknown tongues?....


5 I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.


....which the Catholic wishes he would not speak with unknown tongues.

Catholic, you need the baptism of the Holy Ghost and water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins,....not more statues.

Lets be real! The RCC does speak in an unknown tongue. Latin is the tongue that some Catholic Priests still speak in their worship services.
How Did Latin Become A Dead Language?

 

[Truther]

In your abject ignorance - you highlighted the wrong phrases.

I fixed that for you above in RED. to make you understand that tongues are "A" gift of the Spirit - not "THE" gift.
To ONE, the gift of miracles - to ANOTHER, prophecy, to ANOTHER discerning of spirits, to ANOTHER, tongues, etc.

Paul goes on to clarify that NOT all will have the same gifts
Now, pay attention, Einstein . . .
1 Cor. 12:29-31
Are ALL apostles? Are ALL prophets? Are ALL teachers? Do ALL work mighty deeds? Do ALL have gifts of healing? Do ALL speak in tongues? Do ALL interpret? Strive eagerly for the greatest spiritual gifts.

You embarrass yourself when you quote Scriptures you don't understand . . .

Chapter 12 speaks of divers kinds of tongues, not unknown tongues per chapter 14.

Do all speak with divers kinds of tongues, one of the 9 gifts?...no.

Do all speak with unknown tongues...yes.

You lose.